mikefrails
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Does he not have a sliver of a point though? Not saying this is the case but making a character female, male, or otherwise for diversity points shouldn't inspire happiness.
Nadine is more interesting as a black female than if she was a white bald guy.
He was cursing, Not you, too, Naughty Dog! Goddammit. I guess Im done with Uncharted, if you guys ever make another one, with his daughter. This fucking bullshit.
Nadine is more interesting as a black female than if she was a white bald guy.
Nadine is more interesting as a black female than if she was a white bald guy.
Definitely. Like it or not though, he does potentially represent some of the eventual player base. So he was, in fact, probably a valuable focus tester ironically.
What have you got against Cutter?
Old man, son, whatever, doesn't really bother me either way. Both could've worked.
Does he not have a sliver of a point though? Not saying this is the case but making a character female, male, or otherwise for diversity points shouldn't inspire happiness.
It really doesn't matter what her skin color is, her character was bland as shit and underutilized.
After TLOU, it really doesn't make much sense.This just...kinda sounds unbelievable.
There are no "diversity points." Nobody is keeping score. Considering both male and female possibilities for a role opens up more creative options, and subverting expectations usually leads to more interesting results. If nothing else, it leads to meaningful conversations.
Definitely. Like it or not though, he does potentially represent some of the eventual player base. So he was, in fact, probably a valuable focus tester ironically.
Nadine is more interesting as a black female than if she was a white bald guy.
Nadine is more interesting as a black female than if she was a white bald guy.
Does he not have a sliver of a point though? Not saying this is the case but making a character female, male, or otherwise for diversity points shouldn't inspire happiness.
I know someone who reacted similarly about the ending and the possible implications of that for the franchise moving forward.He said, "We already have fucking Tomb Raider, we don't need a female lead in the future."
Explain how better representation shouldn't inspire happiness.
Not really. The story would barely be any different had her character not existed at all.
Frankly, I was disappointed with Nadine - especially after Naughty Dog was talking about the character during the casting controversy. Seemed like they were sticking with that casting primarily because the character was too unique to be done by another actress. Instead, she's- who could have been played by just about anyone.Generic Villain #4
Compare this to Uncharted 2, who cast an interesting counter to Nate in Chloe - and even used a fairly cliche protagonist to call out all of the chaos that you cause during the game.
Representation for representation's sake is concerning....
...It probably just sounded cool to imply that ND is hip and unbothered when it comes to gender, man.
How is it concerning? Writers tend to reflect their narrow worldview, and the best writers work outside of it to create something simultaneously more real and grand. People ahousl absolutely be reminded to write outside their first assumption of what a charwcter oe plot point should be like.
Explain to me how thwt is a negative. I mean, we're talking about the broadest point writers are often blind to, that over half of human beings are female. How is it in any way a positive not to get a gentle reminderof that fact when crafting worlds?
Representation for representation's sake is concerning, especially when it's sparked by "what if she was a girl!?". Though I doubt that's how it actually goes down once the script has been finalized. It probably just sounded cool to imply that ND is hip and unbothered when it comes to gender, man.
Is it normal to have such a narrow worldview you have to be given tips on gender and race from a playtester? What world do these writers live in to where at the very least they don't recognize race and gender in a natural way already?
Does he not have a sliver of a point though? Not saying this is the case but making a character female, male, or otherwise for diversity points shouldn't inspire happiness.
Representation for representation's sake is concerning, especially when it's sparked by "what if she was a girl!?". Though I doubt that's how it actually goes down once the script has been finalized. It probably just sounded cool to imply that ND is hip and unbothered when it comes to gender, man.
need NG to just recreate Y: The Last Man in videogame form.
ALL THE FEMALES.
Seriously though.
But...what does that even mean?
Good on them? Like, what's your beef here exactly? Keep in mind you're speaking to a woman; how can you turn me around to see your perspective? Because I'm happy to see more kickass ladies when I'm used to playing a guy like 80~90% of the time
I didn't have a problem with the end, whether it was a son or daughter but was it just me or was it strange in the epilogue when ND had Nate and Elena's daughter on the cover of some Archaeology magazine when it was something Nate and Elena wanted to steer away from themselves by the end of the game. I know fortune hunter =/= archaeologist but I felt it lessened the reveal that Nate was a fortune hunter and also they appear to be setting her down their very same path they left.
I was slightly inebriated when I finished the game last weekend so I could be well wrong.
I disagree with that. Nadine is far too competent and professional to be a generic villain. The truth isshe's really not much of a villain at all, just a bad-ass merc leader who's caught up in the whole thing because she's taken Rafe's money. And as Sully points out in chapter 10, she's not the sort of merc to switch sides on the promise of more cash.
Of course it's normal to have blindspots to your limitstions as a writer. If you grew up in rhe suburbs, you will need to grow and research, even have life experiences, to write people from an urban area well. You'll get notes from editors on it. You'll get feedback from reviewers on it. This is one of the core skills that separates great writers fro. average ones. It is incredibly difficult to wrire outside the lowest hanging fruit of your life's experience.
Are you serious, dude?
Let's go further, I mean, your premise insinuates that smart people fully understand each other by default. So does racism just not even exist in your worldview
Yes!
I wonder if Guerilla Games had to struggle to have a woman for their new AAA sci fi project, Horizon.
I'm more surprised with exist guys that didn't play a game because female characters lol