CadetMahoney
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I loled.
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[UK] CEX already selling Playstation 4 Slim for £380
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I loled.
So happy you included this. Why is it every single one stinks and plays awful abrasive metal/happy hardcore? Why is there no median?
Are you a lawyer? Just curious.
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
Banned
What part of "effective monopoly" suggests otherwise?
My reasoning is simple.
CEX are buying these off people. Sony decide to take legal action against CEX for buying stolen goods. How can Sony possibly prove CEX knew they were stolen when there wasn't any indication from Sony that units had been stolen in the first place. CEX would just say "Hey we thought these were snide Chinese copies or consoles that were modded by fans".
It'd literally be impossible to prove beyond reasonable doubt that CEX knew they were stolen. Something which you have to do in front of a court and judge.
Can't really comment on the smell but we play a wide range of music from the 70's to current charts.
What, that's bloody outrageous! Who does Sony think they are?
Possumowner
Member
Bet there phones went off the hook,with the last call being..."Hello,can I speak to the manager please....who's calling...Sony,Mr Sony" click
You think a large volume of units being stolen - without the press hearing about it - is likely?
family_guy
Member
People are paying more money to get a Slim when they can pay less to get the original?
Just to play Devils advocate for my corporate overlords, the idea that CEX just accept stolen goods willy-nilly isn't true. Just last week I had to send someone away because during the test for the phone they wanted to trade in it came up as lost/stolen. You also need a serial number on the device and valid ID for any trade-in, so if anything dodgy does come through its easy enough for the police to track them down. Maybe it's lax in other shops, but that's how ours' does it.
and you gotta love that 15% discount m8
and you gotta love that 15% discount m8
That'a a terrible argument and wouldn't have a chance of standing up in court imo. So despite the packaging and the device itself being labelled with Sony everywhere, you think CEX could get away with 'we didn't think it was Sony's machine, and because we'd never heard of it, it can't be stolen'?
Theonik
Member
The law doesn't require proof that the offender knew they were stolen. If they can be proven that they would suspect they were stolen that is enough, say consider an unannounced console. That they thought was Chinese knockoffs would not hold as a defence either since CEX sells them as PS4s which is them acknowledging that they are real. The court examines the facts and determines if they would believe they could be stolen.
Furthermore, Sony could send a notification to CEX that the products might be stolen, and CEX ignoring it would be incriminating as now they can't deny knowing they are stolen. This is all without publicly announcing the system. Police might also have been notified in the meantime and such an occurrence would be investigated as per Sony's wishes accounting for the delicate conditions that a company secret.
All it'd take is a 'misplaced' container. This sort of thing has happened before with Halo games being nicked from the factory. The difference is that MS publicaly went and said the theft took place whereas Sony wants to publicaly deny these units even exist and is probably resolving this from the background.
toythatkills
Member
No it's not.
show me your skeleton
Member
CEX are hilarious, day one they had about 20 vitas in the birghton store, only for them to be confiscated by the police. they really give no fucks.
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
Banned
It pretty much has become a pawn brand. As I've said earlier in the thread, cash converters are generally more competitive now.
The only difference at this point is that CEX doesn't give you an opportunity to buy your stuff back before it goes on sale to the general public.
toythatkills
Member
So, not a pawn shop then?
CadetMahoney
Member
Isn't the onus is on the victim to report the theft to the cops and possibly have the Serial number handy in the case of higher value items.
Elven_Star
Member
I'm glad they did, actually. Wouldn't want to pay extra for more storage which I'm not gonna use anyway.
EightBitNate
Member
My Facebook friend posted this 40 minutes ago with caption "Not even announced yet!"
(I'm in the UK)
This is so fucking insane. Has this ever happened before?
sixteen-bit
Member
My Facebook friend posted this 40 minutes ago with caption "Not even announced yet!"
(I'm in the UK)
lmao
Cat's outta the bag. Sony should just announce it already
Does your friend know if it plays 4K Blu Rays?
If there is no 500gb entry model they can't sell a 1tb model for more. It's classic price discrimination.
R10Neymarfan
Member
At this rate it's a soft launch. Sony must not give a shit because they have better surprises in store
Chinese Cartoons
Banned
cex were buying them for £304 each a week ago.
Popsickles
Member
Considering the PS4 slims are not up for retail sale then the units are obviously stolen from the distribution centre. Sony themselves may not yet be aware of the units being taken if they have a very large stock pile. This is not the first time CEX has been found to be trading stolen goods, remeber Uncharted 4
THE:MILKMAN
Member
It has to be that whichever distribution centre is the one that released these (It surely is a single one?) got pissed about storing thousands of consoles for weeks and in the end just sold them on or sent them to retailers who just sold them on quickly under the counter so as not to be tied up with stock for weeks?
There have been no indications or reports these have been stolen.
This is one big fat mess though and if Sony are only going to address this on or after the 7th then it will be a farce.... if isn't one already.
There have been no indications or reports these have been stolen.
This is one big fat mess though and if Sony are only going to address this on or after the 7th then it will be a farce.... if isn't one already.
toythatkills
Member
Obviously. There's literally no other explanation.
Apart from all the other explanations.
Thebeardofknowledge
Banned
TheOnlyOneHeEverFeared
Member
It's not.
Rellik
Member
Read the OP, not just the thread title.
THE:MILKMAN
Member
Just had a thought...What if this is a deliberate distraction by Sony so their Neo surprise makes a bigger impact?
On to you, Sony.
I'm not serious
show me your skeleton
Member
why did he spend so much?My Facebook friend posted this 40 minutes ago with caption "Not even announced yet!"
(I'm in the UK)
ss_lemonade
Member
Wasn't the PS3 slim leaked a month or 2 early back then in the Philippines? Some stores already had it there before the thing was even announced.
Audioboxer
Member
Paying £380 to get a... PS4. lol.
Yeah sure, people get excited about shiny new designs, but it is genuinely a PS4. No tangible upgrades, and only potentially minor cost savings on electricity. Of which you're never getting those savings back in the inflated price you've just paid.
People can and will do whatever they want with their cash, so allow me to morph back into an old man yelling at the clouds.
Yeah sure, people get excited about shiny new designs, but it is genuinely a PS4. No tangible upgrades, and only potentially minor cost savings on electricity. Of which you're never getting those savings back in the inflated price you've just paid.
People can and will do whatever they want with their cash, so allow me to morph back into an old man yelling at the clouds.
People working at SIE don't get the staff sales of new games/consoles until the release day/week, back in the day with the PS3 and PS4 releases we didn't get them until the official release date.
As for the PS3 revisions, they arrived the week after the release date, if the revision was released on a friday, our staff sales arrived the tuesday or wednesday after.
So these consoles were most likely obtained from other methods and not the normal staff sales (I don't work there anymore, but I did get confirmation that the Slims have not arrived for staff sales yet).
As for the PS3 revisions, they arrived the week after the release date, if the revision was released on a friday, our staff sales arrived the tuesday or wednesday after.
So these consoles were most likely obtained from other methods and not the normal staff sales (I don't work there anymore, but I did get confirmation that the Slims have not arrived for staff sales yet).
THE:MILKMAN
Member
It is the instant gratification demographic Andrew House was talking about.
mangochutney
Member
500GB is just about enough given the tie ratio consoles typically have had in the past. I don't know what they're like for this gen, but I can't imagine a huge deviation.
If you're a keen gamer who browses this forum then yeah, I'm sure you want more space. But for the average user and Mr or MRs GTA, FIFA and COD. They don't.
kraspkibble
Permabanned.
lol sony messed up here. how have people got these so early?
i wonder if we'll see the same happen for Neo.
i wonder if we'll see the same happen for Neo.
Could be worse. Could have paid a thousand bucks for No Man's Sky.