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jcm said:I absolutely agree. Valve is quite successful, they have an engine that runs well on PS3 and 360, and they don't need the PS3.
I'm sure you meant PC.
jcm said:I absolutely agree. Valve is quite successful, they have an engine that runs well on PS3 and 360, and they don't need the PS3.
Whoops! Yes, PC is what I meant._leech_ said:I'm sure you meant PC.
Wizman23 said:Oh go cry some more. Every fucking 360 shooter thread has been de railed for the past 2 years just so Sony fanboys can come in and proclaim how Killzone 2 is the greatest game ever ever created and how it will sell 20 million copies and win the console war for Sony....yeah how did that turn out??
LiquidMetal14 said:I'm getting sick and tired of these fucking PS3 thread derails. How many 360 threads turn to shit like this?
Red Blaster said:About as well as the Cleveland Cavaliers in the Eastern Conference Finals.
Violater said:K can the vale talk stop here?
Well, how about different skins/costumes not showing on cutscenes? Or the different post processing modes? That's quite lame.mr_nothin said:Who CARES? Really...if it looks 90% identical most of the time then why do you care what you see? If they just said the videos were real-time in the 1st place...on the 1st game then most ppl wouldnt even have noticed.
I dont get this video vs real-time debate. The game looks great while you're playing it and looks on par with the cutscenes. So why are we whining about "pre-rendered videos" just so Naughty Dog can impress the 5% of their fans that actual care?
To be fair, this is one of those "my console is better than yours" disguised as an U2 thread.LiquidMetal14 said:I'm getting sick and tired of these fucking PS3 thread derails.
Downslide said:you heard the man, stop talking about wide river valleys.
i mean, that's really off topic for a gaming forum, take that shit to the escarpment sub forum
ice cold :lolRed Blaster said:About as well as the Cleveland Cavaliers in the Eastern Conference Finals.
schennmu said:I think one of the problems is the "Uncharted 2 is 100% not possible on 360" quote...
Firewire said:And this bugs you how exactly?
schennmu said:It might be one of the reasons why this thread turned into such a trainwreck. Doesn't really bug me despite the fact that it's obsolete talk to make Sony happy.
schennmu said:It might be one of the reasons why this thread turned into such a trainwreck. Doesn't really bug me despite the fact that it's obsolete talk to make Sony happy.
schennmu said:It might be one of the reasons why this thread turned into such a trainwreck. Doesn't really bug me despite the fact that it's obsolete talk to make Sony happy.
The-Warning said:Wow where would Sony be without Naughty Dog? That's a scary thought.
Red Blaster said:About as well as the Cleveland Cavaliers in the Eastern Conference Finals.
bluescreenoflife said:Why are there people like you who feel the need to not only enjoy something that is well made... but to claim it has no rival?
Uncharted and Uncharted 2 are beautiful looking.
Uncharted and Uncharted 2 have a great writer with voice actors that are worthy of and sometimes transcend the writing.
Uncharted and Uncharted 2 are fun to play.
But to take a shit on Valve and their "B-Grade" engine makes you look like a fucking joke who grew up playing a Playstation and can't expand their mind past it.
Every employee at Valve is the best in the world at what they do, period.
MWS Natural said:In Laster place?
:lol
andycapps said:Have you even played Half Life 2, Left 4 Dead, or Team Fortress 2 on a PC? Go check out the current thread for GAF replaying through Half Life 2, which is a 5 years old game. The game has aged very well and still looks very, very good. You can't say that for a lot of the same games at the time. Say what you want about the Source engine, but it's very scaleable and looks pretty good. Play through Half Life 2 and tell me that isn't epic, or that Left 4 Dead or Team Fortress 2 aren't extremely finely tuned games. I've put more hours into those two games than any console game. On second thought, nevermind, why am I falling for this bait? :lol
Naughty Dog is good at what they do, maximizing the results on the only platform they work on, PS3. Uncharted is a phenomenal looking game, as are Valve's games. Sucks that the OP had to bring Valve into this as they don't relate to the original article AT ALL. Who cares if Valve games can't be played on PS3 as long as you've got a halfway decent PC? Again, Valve's games are first and foremost designed for PC, so even if you have a 360, I'd still recommend them moreso on a PC anyway.
This thread is the perfect example of why PC gamers hate console gamers and vice versa. And it's also the perfect example of GAF.
Truespeed said:Did you actually read back the fucking joke you just spewed out of your ass? You lavish praise on Naughty Dog, but somehow give a free pass to someone calling their studio, their people, their technology and their games B grade. But, when I counter by saying their engine doesn't even compare to the ND engine your little porcupine quills start emerging from your popped out collar.
Here's the moral of the story, because you had trouble getting it in the first place, if you're going to call a company B grade you better hope the company you're comparing them to is superior in every aspect otherwise you end up looking like an idiot.
Draft said:Valve is Pixar, ND is Dreamworks.
bluescreenoflife said:They have to put "the smirk" on the box to sell copies lolamirite?I still sort of agree.
Antz is better than A Bugs Life.Draft said:Valve is Pixar, ND is Dreamworks.
I'd like you to expand on that?stuburns said:In terms of game design, yes, Valve are probably the best developer in the world, but games are more than just that...
Well, if you wish to evaluate a development studio, you can do so on more than just the game design, such as the technical prowess of the programmers, and although as a gamer, the only thing that really matters is the thing you play, when 'rating' a studio, more than that should be taken into account. Valve are, in my eyes at least, the best game designers working at the moment, that doesn't mean they are the best game development studio.Rez said:I'd like you to expand on that?
You tone it down.cryptic said:Not worth the time.
This thread is not about Uncharted 2. It's about which dev has a bigger cock.test_account said:Interesting read that Uncharted 2 tech interview, thanks for posting this!
Draft said:Valve is Pixar, ND is Dreamworks.
You have to be high on crack cocaine to put ND anywhere near Valve Fucking Corporation.
CrayzeeCarl said:This thread is not about Uncharted 2. It's about which dev has a bigger cock.
bluescreenoflife said:Valve's target audience and fans are the collar popping type apparently, good to know.
The point was that I lavished praise on Naughty Dog for the same reason I lavish praise upon Valve, because they fucking deserve it. It's hard to not presume that you would bust a nut over Naughty Dog whether or not they rightfully deserve it when they are a Sony exclusive studio and you define your online identity with a piece of their console branding.
bluescreenoflife said:Here was my thought process:
As does probably every game with facial animation. Like for example:EmCeeGramr said:You know, Jak and Daxter features That Smirk a lot too.
Lord Error said:As does probably every game with facial animation. Like for example:
Master Z said:This Valve vs ND thing is one of the most pathetic nerd arguments I've ever seen, congratulations you fucking tools.
It's all one image with the one on the left. I didn't bother cropping it out.bluescreenoflife said:Ok, you got me there... but you said "every game with facial animation" and yet posted a pic of real people cosplaying... and they're not even making that face.
Perhaps you are onto something - as they both make memorable looking visuals and are good at storytelling - but leave much to be desired when it comes to gameplayDraft said:Valve is Pixar