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Uncharted 3: Subway's Deception Multiplayer Discussion [New Patch Released]

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jett said:
Oh btw ND has made it now so you are automatically equipped with a pistol after you drop the treasure, even if you never used the fucking thing and you were equipped with a rifle before picking it up. WHY ND WHY, WHY HAVE YOU MADE SO MANY FUCKING STUPID CHANGES
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Woohoo my local subway started selling the cups, chips and wrappers. I picked up a cup for the beta and a bag of sunchips.

I'll be sharing beta codes with people soon.

Also, my very first non-free code I put in won me $50 PSN money!!!

EDIT: Whoops I guess this is the wrong thread.
 
jett said:
All weapons are crap. They're useless and feel horrible.

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it's easier to see how stupidly fast the game is now when you're not playing. Look at this shit:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2nMuoxTyK0&feature=feedu

how could someone at ND think this was okay?
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That is the whiniest motherfucker i've heard on youtube - and that's a goddamn feat.

I feel bad for those not enjoying it. I wouldn't be against some tweaks, but Im having a ton of fun with this. I absolutely love how fast it is.
 
Yamibito said:
I'm enjoying this, but the beta was better.
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Kind of how I feel. Hope they patch this thing up a bit. It's still some of the better multiplayer out there, but the Beta played pretty much perfectly. I have no idea why they changed it.
 
Yeah, I think I'm with everyone who is saying the beta was better. I can't quite put a finger on what it is exactly, but I remember the beta just having a better overall "feel" to it.

ND should just revert to the beta code and call it a day. Then we should all just stfu, stop complaining and enjoy the game.

I dunno, maybe we just need a little more time with it to adjust?
 
famousmortimer said:
That is the whiniest motherfucker i've heard on youtube - and that's a goddamn feat.

I feel bad for those not enjoying it. I wouldn't be against some tweaks, but Im having a ton of fun with this. I absolutely love how fast it is.
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God forbid someone wants a cover-based TPS to allow for rifle fights.
 
Yamibito said:
Replied in the topic, I suggest anyone else who cares at all does too. It's not the end of the world, a few tweaks back to how it was and this'll easily be one of the best multiplayer games of all time (or at least close).
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They locked it down. :| It had honest insights and no trolling. Man, sigh, whatever.
 
i don't get to play this for a weeks until I've taken my exam, but I'm really not liking what they've changed. Like others, I don't fucking understand why? I mean logically, how does the team get together and make these ridiculous decisions? It's not as bad as a multiplayer ruining 1.05 esc update, but it certainly makes the game a lower quality mulitplayer game the game speed switch alone. Is the campaign that quick too ND?
 
Played way longer today. The inaccuracy is just getting worse and worse to me - it's so bad, I don't even bother aiming and firing at people half the time when I can just blindfire + punch them for the kill.

Plus, it's clear that some major bugs did not even get looked because I encountered these 2 bugs, which were there in the July BETA:

1) Party disconnect. Party leader gets in the game, others in his party don't.
2) Triangle pick up is still glitched. Couldn't pick up certain weapons and treasure when they were there for the entire duration of the match.

Seriously, is it hard to look into them and confirm fixes? They're not small glitches either, both greatly affecting party and gameplay flow.
 
famousmortimer said:
That is the whiniest motherfucker i've heard on youtube - and that's a goddamn feat.

I feel bad for those not enjoying it. I wouldn't be against some tweaks, but Im having a ton of fun with this. I absolutely love how fast it is.
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Yes, I agree. The guy was annoying and obnoxious, but if there's one thing he is right about is that people don't aim in this game at all. He brings up a good point too, why bother aiming if that isn't the way the majority of people are playing? People who play this game are just going to follow the tactic people are using, which is to blindfire and melee because it's very effective and it works. I wish it wasn't the case, but it is what it is.

I'll leave feedback once again on the ND forums when I have the chance.

Also, anyone else feel that grenades are inconsistent at times? Sometimes I'm nowhere near the grenade, but I die.
 
jett said:
They locked it down. :| It had honest insights and no trolling. Man, sigh, whatever.
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Hopefully they'll at least consider these complaints a few days from now, if they leave it too long though we could have another Uncharted 2 patch situation on our hands.
 
The Xtortionist said:
God forbid someone wants a cover-based TPS to allow for rifle fights.
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Yes, because I said I didn't want rifle fights?


All I said was that dude was whiny. And he is. Every single thing people did in the game he cried about. It was annoying.


I personally like the game speed. I have socom and gears for different levels of slow TPS games. What I loved about UC2 online was the crazy escapes and traversal. The new speed ups that even more. But it's early yet. I may grow to dislike it. I am in the same boat as everyone else -- I can't kill nearly as well as I could in the beta or in UC2. But im not mad about it... it's new. Either ill adapt or I won't -- but Im not ready to go apeshit on the game quite yet. Especially since im having fun, which is most important to me, far above my KDR.
 
Yamibito said:
Hopefully they'll at least consider these complaints a few days from now, if they leave it too long though we could have another Uncharted 2 patch situation on our hands.
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This is why I'm apprehensive about putting too much time in this new multiplayer. I'll relearn everything and then I'll get buttfucked once again. I wish I understood the mentaility that drives their MP decisions. I wish someone that knows what the fuck he's talking about would interview the MP team.
 
jett said:
It's not like the thread I made was the only one with feedback outside of the main one...any post I make in that will just get buried, and I already made one.
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if you notice hes moving them all, I'm sure its not something easy or quick.

Creating a topic that just gets pushed off the page by code beggars and people claiming they know everything won't get noticed much faster.

But then again you are Mr. Negativity.
 
d0c_zaius said:
if you notice hes moving them all, I'm sure its not something easy or quick.

Creating a topic that just gets pushed off the page by code beggars and people claiming they know everything won't get noticed much faster.

But then again you are Mr. Negativity.
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Really? Seriously? That doesn't even make sense. Kindly fuck off and never reply to one of my posts ever again. No, you know what? Congratulations on being the first turdbucket to make it to my ignore list in my 12 years of posting in this forum.
 
Well, I attempted to get the mp code, but they didn't have the cups, so I came away with a drake skin and the AK skin... but nothing to use them with. So it goes.

Quick question for those playing MP. Who are the characters available to play as and is there a lot of customization?
 
jett said:
This is why I'm apprehensive about putting too much time in this new multiplayer. I'll relearn everything and then I'll get buttfucked once again. I wish I understood the mentaility that drives their MP decisions. I wish someone that knows what the fuck he's talking about would interview the MP team.
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I can understand why you're so pissed off considering the potential for this multiplayer to be amazing is through the roof, but it seems Naughty Dog are going in too many different directions for this at the same time.
 
CharpyImpact said:
Well, I attempted to get the mp code, but they didn't have the cups, so I came away with a drake skin and the AK skin... but nothing to use them with. So it goes.

Quick question for those playing MP. Who are the characters available to play as and is there a lot of customization?
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There should be another u3 thread around here with a GAF dummy account so you can download. Look for it and try it out fer yourself.
 
CharpyImpact said:
Well, I attempted to get the mp code, but they didn't have the cups, so I came away with a drake skin and the AK skin... but nothing to use them with. So it goes.

Quick question for those playing MP. Who are the characters available to play as and is there a lot of customization?
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For story characters there's little to no customization in this incarnation of the multiplayer. The generic Hero and Villain models have a bunch. There's Drake, Elena, Chloe, Sully and three UC3 bad guys.
 
jett said:
Really? Seriously? That doesn't even make sense. Kindly fuck off and never reply to one of my posts ever again. No, you know what? Congratulations on being the first turdbucket to make it to my ignore list in my 12 years of posting in this forum.
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lol wow you really need a break from gaming if thats how you freak out from someone stating what your tag is, plus the butthurt tone of your posts that are all extremely negative and whiny.

Ignore away chum and maybe in another 12 years you'll learn to relax and show a little class.

"Kindly fuck off and never reply to one of my posts ever again."

You are a complete joke , thanks for the humor after a long day.

oh and u mad.
 
I agree that the gameplay is too fast, but to be fair, melee kills were a very large part in Uncharted 2 MP. I think that the addition of sprint was ill advised.
 
The Xtortionist said:
The game is just a giant mindfuck for me. Despite only playing about 4 games of UC2 MP, I like to think I was pretty decent at the UC3 beta and could hold my own when playing with other gaffers. But man, retail UC3 makes me feel like I've never played a shooter in my life. Nothing works for me. Yeah I had a few lucky games on Yemen with Rewrite last night, but it was just that...luck. I consistently had 2 k/d in the beta without getting lucky.

Retail is something completely different, with too many elements fighting against me. The guns fight against me with their overabundance of recoil/spread. The crappy hit detection fights against me. The enemy team of Sonic the Hedgehogs with their tiny fucking hitboxes fights against me.

I don't think it would even matter how much time I put in. My G-MAL still isn't going to work, and enemy players outside of extreme CQ are still going to be a complete pain in the ass to land shots on. The guns in this game are fucking jank.

idk guys, I just don't know.
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I wish they would just revert back to beta mechanics. Its not too late. Go back. Please Arne, if you're listening. Don't fuck up Uncharted for me! Just go back, and lets take things one step at a fucking time. Thats not hard, is it?

All that Beta feedback, down the drain. What was the point in the end?
 
I haven't played any of the U3 beta at all, just some of U2 online when I had that game. But holy freaking crap at those youtube vids...I seriously would have thought that was sped up in post. Yikes.
 
WTF subway I tried again today, they even had the poster up in the store with Drake's face all over it, the people behind the counter had no idea what i was talking about. They only had the regular cups, no promotion. DON'T HANG THE FUCKING POSTER UP IF YOU DON'T ACTUALLY HAVE THE SHIT. That's the second time I tried, getting very annoyed.
 
Being that the beta was tweaked several times... and UC2 was tweaked about 2000 times... I wouldn't get too upset (or psyched) about how the game is playing right now anyway. Like I said earlier, i love the speed... but I don't expect it to be like this in a week or two. I think the internet is making it clear to them that they dont like it.


And then they will change it again after that. Because that's just what Naughty Dog does. You can rage about it, I mean that's what the internet is for, or you can go with the flow and try to enjoy an ever-changing game.
 
RyanardoDaVinci said:
Too bad, we're already there.
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Honestly. Beta was great, different from U2 but great, I remember bragging to my COD playing only friends about how great hit detection was in the game after the Beta I honestly was ready to make this my main MP game but then ...
 
I really enjoyed how the beta felt, so I have no idea why ND decided to screw with it. It seems to me like bullets have almost no stopping power and people can just run around 15 corners before they die.

It's just very strange to me because the VAST majority seemed to like the beta, so why change it? I just don't get it.
 
To institute all the changes required to get the game back to its beta form--which already paled in comparison with 1.04 U2, anyways--would require a miracle of profound proportions. Sadly, I don't think that'll happen. This seems to be an even bigger drop in quality than KZ2 to KZ3, and that was quite a sight to behold itself. This is like a bad joke.
 
Some people PMed me PSN credentials that didn't work. Anyone got one that hasn't been hijacked so I can get in on this? The Subway I went to knew nothing of the promotion.
 
famousmortimer said:
Being that the beta was tweaked several times... and UC2 was tweaked about 2000 times... I wouldn't get too upset (or psyched) about how the game is playing right now anyway. Like I said earlier, i love the speed... but I don't expect it to be like this in a week or two. I think the internet is making it clear to them that they dont like it.


And then they will change it again after that. Because that's just what Naughty Dog does. You can rage about it, I mean that's what the internet is for, or you can go with the flow and try to enjoy an ever-changing game.
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The speed isn't the main problem, the problem is that there is no counter to it, at least if you try to use your guns, I mean people can literally just run circles around you some Lvl5 dude just ate my bullets earlier(actually I'm not sure they hit, I got hit markers but w/e...), ran a full circle around me shot me with two bullets and finished me with a melee, that shouldn't happen especially if I have my reticule on you and I'm getting hit markers.

If they have to make the game so fast, hit boxes should be bigger.
 
EloquentM said:
There should be another u3 thread around here with a GAF dummy account so you can download. Look for it and try it out fer yourself.
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Good call. Downloading now. I can't wait to see the different it has gotten since the beta.
 
The beta, from day 1, FELT great. Thats the thing.

It wasn't even about gun damage. It just FELT better. Then the para became GOOD. Then the G-mal, then the ak got a nerf I think, and slowly it got better and better.

After the beta, I was 200% sure this was going to be my PS3 MP game for a long time. The mechanics were locked down, and felt great. Now we just needed maps, fix some bugs/glitches, add some features, and we were ready to roll.

But this. This is the new 1.05 patch. The 1.05 patch before the game even shipped. I swear on my life, if this was the first time playing UC3, I would still hate it. Nothing about this game feels good. Nothing feels satisfying in the least. I know this is anecdotal, but 2 of my PSN friends agreed with me that the game is terrible now.

The recoil, the speed, spread, the sprint, everything about this is one unmitigated disaster which is unbelievable to me because of the amazing beta.

I honestly believe ND is making a big fucking mistake if this goes to retail. If the majority of this forum is saying that the BETA WAS BETTER, something is wrong.

Anyways, thats my opinion. Personally, I dread starting up U3 right now which should not be the case. I'll be there for Single-Player, but Multi-player will be non-existent for me.
 
madmaxx350 said:
The speed isn't the main problem, the problem is that there is no counter to it, at least if you try to use your guns, I mean people can literally just run circles around you some Lvl5 dude just ate my bullets earlier(actually I'm not sure they hit, I got hit markers but w/e...), ran a full circle around me shot me with two bullets and finished me with a melee, that shouldn't happen especially if I have my reticule on you and I'm getting hit markers.

If they have to make the game so fast, hit boxes should be bigger.
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If that's true, and im not sure it is yet after just 24 hours of play, it will be tweaked. Whenever there are big changes to a game there is a severe overreaction and then things come back to reality a few days later and then the developers can figure out if it was just an internet freak out or real.


In this case it may very well be real. But... it's 24 hours old. Im not convinced that anyone has adapted yet.
 
The G-MAL seems useless in my experience with it. I thought that being a burst it would take guys down fast but I got destroyed in every gun fight I got in. Not really feeling the beta so far but I plan on playing it some more before I make final judgement. I still plan on getting the game if just for the single player.
 
famousmortimer said:
If that's true, and im not sure it is yet after just 24 hours of play, it will be tweaked. Whenever there are big changes to a game there is a severe overreaction and then things come back to reality a few days later and then the developers can figure out if it was just an internet freak out or real.


In this case it may very well be real. But... it's 24 hours old. Im not convinced that anyone has adapted yet.
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People have adapted, they don't want gun fights, they rush you like it's MW2 Marathon+Lightweight with Akimbo rangers and they shoot+melee you.
 
Mikey Jr. said:
The beta, from day 1, FELT great. Thats the thing.

It wasn't even about gun damage. It just FELT better. Then the para became GOOD. Then the G-mal, then the ak got a nerf I think, and slowly it got better and better.

After the beta, I was 200% sure this was going to be my PS3 MP game for a long time. The mechanics were locked down, and felt great. Now we just needed maps, fix some bugs/glitches, add some features, and we were ready to roll.

But this. This is the new 1.05 patch. The 1.05 patch before the game even shipped. I swear on my life, if this was the first time playing UC3, I would still hate it. Nothing about this game feels good. Nothing feels satisfying in the least. I know this is anecdotal, but 2 of my PSN friends agreed with me that the game is terrible now.

The recoil, the speed, spread, the sprint, everything about this is one unmitigated disaster which is unbelievable to me because of the amazing beta.

I honestly believe ND is making a big fucking mistake if this goes to retail. If the majority of this forum is saying that the BETA WAS BETTER, something is wrong.

Anyways, thats my opinion. Personally, I dread starting up U3 right now which should not be the case. I'll be there for Single-Player, but Multi-player will be non-existent for me.
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AGREED ON ALL ACCOUNTS.
 
Glad I'm not the only one struggling. I play hardcore mode and it seems everyone has fleet foot by default when they aim and jitter around to get the kill. I can blast people all day and they just scurry off the edge of buildings to safety. Frustrating.

Hopefully they make changes soon before those who constantly play and make it to max levels get too used to it.
 
It's not bad mp, it's just not great mp. Beta felt brilliant. Movement, recoil, aim etc was fine and felt right.

How many patches until they fully Killzone 3 the multiplayer, i wonder? The MP at the moment is definately a step back, personally. Aiming is janky and movement is slimy.
 
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