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Uncharted 3: Subway's Deception Multiplayer Discussion [New Patch Released]
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Boombloxer
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Rewrite said:I never win anything so I just gave up.
I did forget to post the best part of the video:
:lol :lol :lol
...plus a Rate of Fire upgrade...
XxSlasherMcGirkxX
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Rewrite said:I never win anything so I just gave up.
I did forget to post the best part of the video:
:lol :lol :lol
As long as that accuracy stays that low, I don't have a problem with it. I bet you won't even be able to tell a difference. A little blindfire boost isn't going to matter if people are just running around in circles anyway.
H_Prestige
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KAL players are useless. They can only kill you when they're literally right in your face.
I was playing yesterday and I notice this guy sprinting straight at me from a distance when he could have easily just lined up a shot at me. Then I realized he was a KAL tard and the poor bastard had no choice. So I took out me M9 and put him out of his misery.
I was playing yesterday and I notice this guy sprinting straight at me from a distance when he could have easily just lined up a shot at me. Then I realized he was a KAL tard and the poor bastard had no choice. So I took out me M9 and put him out of his misery.
RyanardoDaVinci
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Negs are going to be useless if they only multiply cash for kills. 95% of your money in a match comes from Medals.
"Yay, I got 20 kills! I made 2k instead of 1k. Whoooooo..."
If they multiply all medals earned, or even just kill-related medals, I'll use No Power Weapons and Flat Footed (to spite the Fleet Footers), otherwise I won't use them at all -- if I can stand to play up to that point, that is.
"Yay, I got 20 kills! I made 2k instead of 1k. Whoooooo..."
If they multiply all medals earned, or even just kill-related medals, I'll use No Power Weapons and Flat Footed (to spite the Fleet Footers), otherwise I won't use them at all -- if I can stand to play up to that point, that is.
RyanardoDaVinci
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jett said:
What does aiming accuracy matter on the KAL? The accuracy could be so bad on it that the bullets come out perpendicular to the barrel and it wouldn't matter -- no one aims with it, it is a blindfire only weapon.
friskykillface
Banned
ah forgot about it ending on monday.
will get some last minute matches in this weekend
will get some last minute matches in this weekend
Uno Venova
Banned
So since the beta is about the end what's the final thoughts? Just my opinion but compared to Uncharted 2 multiplayer the summer beta multiplayer. Subway is the worst. The gunplay is clunky, the speed is too high, spray and pray is too effective and it's an overall more frustrating experience.
I'm probably going to rent UC3 for the SP and stick to UC2 multi for now, it's still fun as hell even with the lower health.
I'm probably going to rent UC3 for the SP and stick to UC2 multi for now, it's still fun as hell even with the lower health.
XxSlasherMcGirkxX
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I don't know if I could honestly rank the uncharted multiplayers. I liked them all and had fun with them all.
For certain though UC2 after 1.4 is dead last.
For certain though UC2 after 1.4 is dead last.
cluxdeluxe
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Rewrite
Not as deep as he thinks
Part 2 of Eugenide's and TripleWRECK's review of the Subway beta.
Titled: Balancing
These videos are so fucking excellent.
Titled: Balancing
These videos are so fucking excellent.
Rewrite
Not as deep as he thinks
They are not useless. Anyone who says otherwise doesn't play this game enough. Most of the maps always have a centralized fighting zone where the combat happens in very close quarters, so KAL 7 users have the advantage because of the crazy blindfire accuracy and it's rate of fire. I'm not even touching KAL-7 players in Team Objective where you get objectives like King of the Hill/Turf War where combat is 100% close quarters. Stopping power isn't enough to kill someone sprinting at you and meleeing you afterwards in Team Objective. Go to Free For All and you'll see how someone can completely dominate the match with the KAL-7. And this is ALWAYS the combination KAL-7 users have...KAL-7 with the Uzi. Ugh. If all you do is play Team Deathmatch, you won't notice any of these things.H_Prestige said:
Matters little? As long as regular accuracy stays low? No one aims with the KAL-7. It's not a gun designed to be aimed in the state that it's in right now because of the crazy recoil. It's like aiming that power weapon (forget the name of it...PAK?), only the recoil of the PAK is better. Increasing the blindfire accuracy to 100% matters A LOT in the state that the multiplayer is in.jett said:
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I hate the Uzi (Micro) blindfire spam. The Para9's rate of fire still fucking blows when you aim, but it is consistent if you blindfire it. The Raffica pistol sucks because it's like the Uzi...blindfire fest. Aiming the raffica pistol isn't good because it takes a lot of shots to successfully kill someone with it. I hate these pistols so much.
I miss the 92FS.Quick Boom needs to be fixed as well. It doesn't need to have a timer. It should be a one time use only booster just like the RPG/Sniper/Double Barrel Shotgun kickback. The Endurance booster makes it even worse along with Explosive Expert...shit, you don't even need to have Booster Slot 1 with Explosive Expert because you can just buy it as a paid booster allowing you to have whatever you want in Slot 1. No Endurance? Use Back in the Saddle to spawn back quicker! Another problem with it is that since it's so effective, you get a shitload of medals for all of your kills, making you that much closer to filling up your medal kickback again. In contrary, if you use something like The Sniper kickback, you won't fill up your medals so quickly while you're using it.
Since this thread is about to become dead, I figured I'd update it with a some info on the retail edition: You level up really quickly. Only 2~ million dollars to reach level 70, current max is supposedly 75. I imagine that'll be raised soon enough. I have like 35 million in Uncharted 2.
Dynamite Ringo Matsuri
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Huh. I was the one who recommended UC2 to Eugenides years ago. She's come a long way. Pretty excellent analysis from Triplewreck as well, dude's a damn good player.Rewrite said:
So we are near to the release of Uncharted 3, I can't believe Naughty Dogg haven't bothered to patch the game up, these minor tweaks are not doing it for me, the summer Beta was some of the most fun I have ever had with multiplayer, what we have now is garbage, I will obviously play U3 for singleplayer and co-op, but the multiplayer is dead to me, which is a shame as it had so much potential, if Uncharted 3 MP played like the summer Beta, it would have been my go to multiplayer game.
RyanardoDaVinci
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upJTboogie said:
Everything in the Subway shit is worse than anything before it -- even the U2 maps because of looks and shitty gameplay. Boosters, kickbacks, powerplays, overtime, sudden death, running animations, female animations, weapons, and maps, are all shit.
U2 1.00-1.04 > U2 beta >>>>>>>>> U3 beta >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
U2 Current >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> Subway shit > U2 1.05
They would have to make serious changes to get me to enjoy this again.
cluxdeluxe said:
Prepare to laugh if the remaining 8 maps from U2 are the maps in the first 4 map packs for U3.
jett said:Since this thread is about to become dead, I figured I'd update it with a some info on the retail edition: You level up really quickly. Only 2~ million dollars to reach level 70, current max is supposedly 75. I imagine that'll be raised soon enough. I have like 35 million in Uncharted 2.
That... doesn't seem right.
Isn't the lvl35 cap 695k XP?
KAL2006 said:
I won't touch Co-op if headshots still aren't 1-hit-kills.
That shit pissed me off to no end in the beta.
RyanardoDaVinci
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That's very strange.
I can't imagine they'd make it even easier to level; Subway was already faster than the Beta.
But then again, I can't imagine 90% of the stuff they've done with the MP, so....
I can't imagine they'd make it even easier to level; Subway was already faster than the Beta.
But then again, I can't imagine 90% of the stuff they've done with the MP, so....
XxSlasherMcGirkxX
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Who cares if it doesn't take too long too reach max level. U2 leveling was stupid. You literally had to spend 200+ hours boosting using only using negitve boosters and abusing the 2x experience days by playing all day and throwing out skill for pure money boosting to even get close to near the top.
And for what? NOTHING! Then near 3/4 of the games online life they add a new skin if you had max level.
I do NOT wanna see that in U3. Anyone should be able to get max level if they put the time into it.
And for what? NOTHING! Then near 3/4 of the games online life they add a new skin if you had max level.
I do NOT wanna see that in U3. Anyone should be able to get max level if they put the time into it.
Rewrite
Not as deep as he thinks
It's because casual players need a reason to come back and play. In CoD, you level up pretty quickly and get XP for everything. In UC3, it's the same thing too. If people see they can level up quickly even after reaching a somewhat high level rank, they'll continue to play because the game keeps rewarding them. In Uncharted 2, it took for fucking ever to level up, so for most casual players it wasn't worth it because reaching the next level became an impossible task. I personally don't care about leveling up as easy as it is, but I do understand that a lot of people do care about itRyanardoDaVinci said:That's very strange.
I can't imagine they'd make it even easier to level; Subway was already faster than the Beta.
But then again, I can't imagine 90% of the stuff they've done with the MP, so....
I hope there's a patch right away that adds more stopping power. I fucking detest getting killed by someone sprinting/blindfiring at me when I'm aiming at them. Or worse...I kill them, but their punch registers at the last second killing me. A person who aims should always win, damn it. M9 blindfire needs to be toned down as well. Plus there's the other mini problems that we've discussed to death in this thread that needs fixing too...
Hopefully ND sees Eugenide's/TripleWRECK's beta review videos. They're really good and informative.
The Xtortionist
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I think it would be nice if they stiffened up the character animations for MP. Yet another factor that makes it harder to shoot than it should be.
Rewrite said:
lol this video is stupid.
what's the difference between double health and double damage? it's the same thing lol. i've never had a problem with double damage. even when i had it or the enemies had it. i've never encounter a enemy hiding from my team with a double damage either. power play is great because it gives the losing team a chance to not look like a fool. rarely does the losing side win the match. RARELY.
i have no comment about the sniper cause i hate snipers in general.
then there is smoke bomb, nothing is wrong with it. i rarely see anyone use it and even when i use it, i've never respawn behind an enemy. one time, the grenade still killed me after i used the smoke bomb. so it's not that useful.
seems like people complain just to complain. useless video after all.
btw, i'm starting to like the blind fire and melee stuffs. give me a new experience with shooting game and it pretty fun.
Rewrite said:
Bleach sighting at the end! video is pretty good, but their first video is spot on (basically revert to the beta). That sniper autoaim looks terrible.
Rewrite
Not as deep as he thinks
No, it's not. It's very informative and goes into great detail. It's anything but stupid.tigerin said:
First of all, let's get this out of the way: They're not the same thing. One is double health and one is double damage. How is that remotely the same thing? Are you dense?
Second of all, I don't know what matches you're playing, but every time Double Damage kicks in, the winning team goes into hiding for most of the time period the power play is on. It changes the flow of the match which is exactly what the video is talking about. Other power plays change the flow of the match, but in this one, it changes it for the worse in my opinion. It's not fun for the winning team to die within seconds of you being encountered by the enemy. It just takes one melee hit to kill someone during Double Damage, which is bullshit. The solution they propose (double health) would be ideal, because the winning team wouldn't go into hiding in fear that they'll die with three bullet shots and the losing team wouldn't have to look around the map to find the people that are hiding. Double health would make sense since it'll give an edge to the winning team, but still be somewhat fair to the losing team. As it is, double damage is too much of a crutch.
There is something wrong with Smoke Bomb and in the video, they explain exactly what's wrong with it. Contrary to other kickbacks which are all for offensive tactics, this one is for defensive purposes only. It doesn't get you a kill. It's to escape from danger. However, with the way it is right now, it doesn't let you escape from danger the majority of the time that you use it. As explained, you'll teleport behind someone, die the instant you smoke your way out (due to lag), or reappear in the area where you used it. It needs to be fixed.
Haha.
I really dislike it when people take their time to explain why something doesn't work and go into great detail explaining why, only to have someone dismiss it because "it doesn't happen to me". It doesn't mean that what's explained isn't true.
I posted that video in this thread. The first video is so gooooood.alr1ghtstart said:
Same here. I never did get my Hammers Only lab in the end, after all.Inanna said:
AgentChris
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Map design in U2 was godly and the U3 maps feels wrong.alr1ghtstart said:
FantasticMrFoxdie
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Rewrite said:
That was a great video. I hope ND is watching.
For the most part I agree with most of what they said. I'm wondering why ND put those changes onto the sniper rifles? As someone who practically mains a sniper rifle, i'm wondering if they did this to prevent a Snipe-fest. The learning curve for it might be better for everyone in the long run.
RyanardoDaVinci
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Rewrite said:
They make some good points but their fixes aren't that great.
Double Damage to Double Health is stupid. At the very most, the DD powerplay should be changed to 1-hit-melee-kills, call it Ironfist or some shit. That way the good team isn't totally fucked and can still defend themselves by playing smart and keeping some distance between the shitty team.
Sniper, I semi-agree on. Really, it just needs to go back to the way it was in U2 (funny how that can be applied to nearly everything...), bring back OTS aiming and expand the reticule when doing so, so it's not pinpoint accurate -- it's not that difficult ND. Aiming movement EXACTLY like U2 with OTS aiming and click-to-scope = fixed sniper.
Smoke Bomb -- sounds to me like they can't stand getting their killstreaks broken. Yeah, it's fucked because it can spawn you in a worse location, but what are you gonna do?
jett said:
sonofa...
These fuckers can't do anything right!
Yes. Punish me because I CAN FUCKING AIM.
That makes perfect sense.
Rewrite
Not as deep as he thinks
Just popped in UC2 as a farewell MP night and oh my god...everyone aims. It's so beautiful. Sure it seems like the whole match has the Double Damage power play on because of the low health, but not once have I seen blindfire. Plus the hammer doesn't suck! And my 92FS! <3 <3 <3
One thing I wish they would do is weapon skins that are from other games. Imagine using the bullseye skin for the AK or the carbine skin for the M9 from Resistance.
Or the Helghast Rifle for the GMAL or the ISA rifle for the FAL SS. Would be so cool since they are already putting in other characters from other games, so why not, eh?
Or the Helghast Rifle for the GMAL or the ISA rifle for the FAL SS. Would be so cool since they are already putting in other characters from other games, so why not, eh?
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