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John Harker said:
I'm open to be proven wrong.

But I've played a bunch of those games, and everything screams 'meh' at me... especially considering how much I'll have to pay for the mehing.

There really isn't anything substantial there. Its very hohum, and it doesn't cater to all types of gamers. Its just more of the same ol', and its just shinnier... and it isnt even as shiny as what you can get on the 360 (which I do not have in my household).

Gimmie Lair and Warhawk and Assassins Creed, and I'd sing a different tune.
Unfortunatly, none of those are now at launch, so why should I get one now?

Yet you're buying a Wii and it has an even crappier lineup comprised largely of current gen ports and glorified minigames.
 
Onix said:
:lol It's the best launch 'window' I can recall.
They're good games, but they're all mainly multiplatform titles. If you don't have a 360, the PS3 launch is quite nice. If you do have a 360, then it's really nothing special (and vice-versa, I guess. Although the 360 isn't launching this year).
 
So what's going on with Blazing Angels? The game is a few weeks away from release and all we have gotten are a few blurry screens released over 2 months ago. I've got $5 down on it but red flags are starting to go up on this one.
 
John Harker said:
I'm open to be proven wrong.

But I've played a bunch of those games, and everything screams 'meh' at me... especially considering how much I'll have to pay for the mehing.
As I said, if you already own a 360 and/or played some of these titles, the list may only have a couple titles you are interested in. But if you dont, theres a lot of solid titles on there. Me personally I don't own a 360, and I'm looking forward to many on the list.

John Harker said:
There really isn't anything substantial there. Its very hohum, and it doesn't cater to all types of gamers.
eh? there seems to be something there for every genre minus one or two, to say theres not a game to cater to all types of gamers is iffy and sounds like a personal opinion.

John Harker said:
Unfortunatly, none of those are now at launch, so why should I get one now?
Launch titles are usually never comparable to the games that come down the road, so why you are comparing assasins creed and lair to them is weird as well. that said, there are some good titles there that people want to play less than 2-3 weeks from now, maybe just not for you.


Can I ask what titles for the Wii you are buying this holiday season?
 
BigBoss said:
Yet you're buying a Wii and it has an even crappier lineup comprised largely of current gen ports and glorified minigames.


I can justifty the price of admission, yea.
While I agree that most of the titles are current gen ports and minigame collections, at least, to me, I can experience something new with it. Whether that "something new" is better or worse, I can't say yet (though ive played a dozen of the games already, I can't attest to their longevity), I can justify the launch price because the investment is worth it in the long term.

So is a PS3 - just not right now.

Besides, Zelda, GC or Wii, whoops anything the PS3 has to offer in terms of scale and quality and production value. Fan or not of that kind of game, its one hell of an argument for a good launch title.

In addition, the Wii has more to offer every type of gamer, so I can pick up a variety of titles I want to experence. PS3 just has shinner sports games and over-hyped shooters.
 
AniHawk said:
They're good games, but they're all mainly multiplatform titles. If you don't have a 360, the PS3 launch is quite nice. If you do have a 360, then it's really nothing special (and vice-versa, I guess. Although the 360 isn't launching this year).

Oh, I agree.

I'm just taking the launch lineups on their own, and not considering what games are multi-platform.
 
As for Wii ... whether some of the games offer something new or not (hey - waggle is something new too!) ...

... I simply cannot justify the price of the console considering the HW you're getting.
 
Bad_Boy said:
Launch titles are usually never comparable to the games that come down the road, so why you are comparing assasins creed and lair to them is weird as well. that said, there are some good titles there that people want to play less than 2-3 weeks from now, maybe just not for you.


Warhawk and Lair were suppose to be launch titles.
I'm not sure on the original release of AC.

I'm just saying, the games that were exciting to me were delayed. As I said, PS3 is a worthy investment, but overall, the initial launch batch is really underwhelming and with so many other great titles coming out for other systems, I can't justify spending all that money for nothing that exciting right now. I highly doubt I'm the only one who feels that way.

At least I've played a quantity of these games and I'm not just talking out of my ass because I want to believe something.
 
John Harker said:
Warhawk and Lair were suppose to be launch titles.
I'm not sure on the original release of AC.
Warhawk and Lair were never meant to be launch title, don't know where you heard that. Both of them were slated for 3/01/07 at the earliest.
 
360's launch lineup sucked last year, because most of it were shoddy EA titles and Activision ports. Call of Duty 2, two Rare games, and PGR3 rounded out the launch list for the most part. And from then until February, it had 3 more games come out (DoA4, Fight Night R3, and something else that slips my mind).

PS3's launch lineup sucks this year, because most of it consists of late EA ports and other games that have been out for month. Resistance, Ridge Racer 7, Untold Legends, and Gundam will probably round out the launch list for the most part. From then until February, there's nothing really huge for it (besides Singstar I guess).

Wii's launch lineup sucks this year, because most of it consists of last-gen ports and games that have been out for over a month. Zelda, Excite Truck, Trauma Center, Monkey Ball, and Rayman will probably round out the launch list for the most part. From then until February, there's nothing really huge for it (Wario Ware and Elebits, but c'mon. Seriously).

March 2007 is when you'll start to see everything really good for every system. Launches usually suck unless you're buying a damn system- because then you've probably found something worth playing anyway.

So there you go. Everything sucks
 
Dahbomb said:
Warhawk and Lair were never meant to be launch title, don't know where you heard that. Both of them were slated for 3/01/07 at the earliest.


Are you sure? I'm fairly positive both were originally mentioned as launch games.
Especially Warhawk. And then the tilt controll came along and they redesigned it and etc.

I could be mistaken, but I'm not far off.
 
John Harker said:
In addition, the Wii has more to offer every type of gamer, so I can pick up a variety of titles I want to experence. PS3 just has shinner sports games and over-hyped shooters.

You don't like overhyped shooters? But you're buying Red Steel, it looks like you have no problem with buying overhyped shooters as long as they're released for the Wii.
 
John Harker said:
Warhawk and Lair were suppose to be launch titles.
I'm not sure on the original release of AC.
Lair was a rumored launch title. and you never said anything about warhawk. AC was never a launch title.
 
Bad_Boy said:
Lair was a rumored launch title. and you never said anything about warhawk. AC was never a launch title.

I mentioned Warhawk the same time I mentioned Lair and AC.

You don't like overhyped shooters? But you're buying Red Steel, it looks like you have no problem with buying overhyped shooters as long as they're released for the Wii.

I didn't even know there was hype for Red Steel, let alone it being "overdone" :lol

Yea, I'm getting RS. I played it and liked it - it has a different approach. Reminds me a lot of Time Crisis, shooting-gallery-esque. And I like swords.

Besides, theres no Prime 3 for me to get!
 
AniHawk said:
They're good games, but they're all mainly multiplatform titles. If you don't have a 360, the PS3 launch is quite nice. If you do have a 360, then it's really nothing special (and vice-versa, I guess. Although the 360 isn't launching this year).

My thoughts exactly. It looks like I'll do just fine with my 360 until late next Spring when we start seeing Warhawk, Motostorm, and Lair. Outside of Resistance, everything on the PS3 looks multi-platform, or not anywhere near being a must have.. and as a 360 owner, I don't even see Resistance being a 'must have' game right now since you can get about 10,000 other quality shooters on the 360.
 
John Harker said:
...so why should I get one now?
There's plenty of people that want a PS3 at launch and probably won't be able to get one, so if you want to wait a bit I'm sure no one is going to cry about it..

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I think we all know the real PS3 Launch is in '07.

:p
 
John Harker said:
I mentioned Warhawk the same time I mentioned Lair and AC.
sorry I missed it, but the other two still stand. It goes both ways. Me personally I dont find anything interesting at all about the Wii launch, though im interested in the next mario kart, whenever that may be. I never liked zelda games and if going by the controls is anything I think I'd rather play the gamecube version, give me resistance over red steel any day, and other than that it seems like a bunch of mini games that dont offer much depth I look for in games. Virtua console games are cool, but I dont know about at 8 bucks a pop for snes/genesis games (though I would love gunstar heroes, thats about the only one I see worth it).
 
Bad_Boy said:
sorry I missed it, but the other two still stand. It goes both ways. Me personally I dont find anything interesting at all about the Wii launch, though im interested in the next mario kart, whenever that may be. I never liked zelda games and if going by the controls is anything I think I'd rather play the gamecube version, give me resistance over red steel any day, and other than that it seems like a bunch of mini games that dont offer much depth I look for in games. Virtua console games are cool, but I dont know about at 8 bucks a pop for snes/genesis games (though I would love gunstar heroes, thats about the only one I see worth it).

It's no problem.

I'm not trying to sell anyone on the Wii - I never mentioned me buying one, someone else did! - and I wasnt trying to dissaude anyone from buying a launch PS3.

I was just saying, as a gamer, I'm really dissapointed on the first-day launch titles of the PS3. And I've played several. Ive gotten every system I wanted on day 1, and i just can't see buying a PS3 now as worth it.

I love Playstation - did I ever say I didnt? - so no need to Wii-attack me :lol
And I'm not trying to make anyone cry about the launch titles, why can't we just talk about it? ha.

Not ONE person arguing with me has even bothered to DEFEND or CALL OUT a single launch game, which I find amusing and speaks volumes anyway.
 
fair enough, I'm just saying it goes both ways. so dont expect people to care when you say the launch is awful, im sure somebody here doesnt care at all when I say I'm not interested in the wii games.
 
I'm quite excited for Resistance, Oblivion, and RR7.


After that, I still think there is a nice group of titles that will potentially range from decent to pretty good.
 
Um, theres no point, you've already said "omg shooters" and "omg racers" and "omg sports", which tells me that nothing can convince you. It'll be "omg heres a great game on PS3 but its not in a genre I like* and I'm really reaching for excuses".

And you like the Wii lineup, so really, it says enough.


*may change according to purposes
 
Striek said:
Um, theres no point, you've already said "omg shooters" and "omg racers" and "omg sports", which tells me that nothing can convince you. It'll be "omg heres a great game on PS3 but its not in a genre I like and I'm really reaching for excuses".

And you like the Wii lineup, so really, it says enough.

But my point is, that is pretty standard fare for launches. Nothing new. Yet. As I said, the "enticing" software all got delayed past launch.
And the PS3 is the most expensive system ever - and like I said, for what, to play blu ray movies?

I'm getting one, but the 'omg racers sports and shooters' at the PS3 launch?
It's dissapointing. I think I used that word more than "oh man this is dreadfully awful, the worst lineup ever!" - didnt I?
 
MLB the Show... my reason for buying a PS3...
 
John Harker said:
Not ONE person arguging with me has even bothered to DEFEND or CALL OUT a single launch game, which I find amusing and speaks volumes anyway.
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I don't know, Resistance looks like a AAA shooter, with one of the best online components for a console game ever. When did it become >awful< to have a AAA game surrounded by plenty of great games?

Actually, when did 'standard fare' become 'awful'. Why did you pick out the PS3 and not the Wii? Thats what I find most interesting.

You seem not to care about quality and more about variety, which you know, whatever floats your boat. But overstating much? Yes.
 
Wii could have easily had the best launch ever if they had not delayed MP3 so that 3rd-party software would sell.

Although I still say Zelda makes it the best launch ever.
 
John Harker said:
But my point is, that is pretty standard fare for launches. Nothing new. Yet. As I said, the "enticing" software all got delayed past launch.
And the PS3 is the most expensive system ever - and like I said, for what, to play blu ray movies?

I'm getting one, but the 'omg racers sports and shooters' at the PS3 launch?
It's dissapointing. I think I used that word more than "oh man this is dreadfully awful, the worst lineup ever!" - didnt I?
Dude, if you don't want to buy the PS3 at launch, that's fine. If the launch games aren't appealing to you and you'd rather wait till next year when more appealing games begin to come out and maybe a possible pricedrop, that's fine. It's fine that you may be dissappointed in the launch line up and you don't see any reason to buy the system at launch. What isn't fine is that you feel the need to post and re-post that thought over and over like that's gonna change anything about the situation, or the people who do want the ps3 at launch. If you don't want it at launch, cool. State that opinion and move on to something else.
 
Wii launch: minigames
PS3 launch: lowest common denominator multiplataform titles
X360 launch: Greatest launch lineup of all time. Epicenter of gaming.
 
Oh man, I wan to be justified in buying a PS3 but the only game I'm even interested in on the PS3 list is Assassin's Creed. Sucks to be a action/adventure, rpg gamer at console launches.

I mean the PS3 is full of game I don't like to play (sports games, racers and FPS'es). When does some good action/adventure and rpg games come out?
 
Kangu said:
Wii launch: minigames
PS3 launch: lowest common denominator multiplataform titles
X360 launch: Greatest launch lineup of all time. Epicenter of gaming.

Will you buy me a copy of Perfect Dark Zero?

Sucks to be a action/adventure, rpg gamer at console launches.

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Pud said:
Will you buy me a copy of Perfect Dark Zero?



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The game is rated M, so I'm afraid I can't buy it for you. Maybe when you're a bit older.

EDIT: Holy shit looks like I went back in time to the Gamecube launch in 2001 and it's launching with Zelda: TP. Best launch ever!
 
Zelda is the exception and not hte rule. You generally don't see a game like that at launch (and the only reason we are is because it's been under development for like 4 years).
 
Kangu said:
The game is rated M, so I'm afraid I can't buy it for you. Maybe when you're a bit older.

How nice of you, I'm only twii years old!
In the mean time, I guess I can play the oh-so-highly rated launch title "Madden '06" or one of the other 16 MIND BLOWING titles that it launched with.
 
Mashing said:
When does some good action/adventure and rpg games come out?
hmm...action/adventure and rpg.

Well theres genji which I plan on buying, but I can understand if thats not your cup of tea. Theres oblivion, which you probably have already played. Theres untold legends, which I'm sure you dont want to play (although it cant be any worse than the psp version, I expect it to be better). But Heavenly Sword should be out in a couple of months after launch (my guess is febuary, march for europe). Can't wait for that. :D
 
Honestly, I'll probably stick with the PS2 for a while since it still has some kickass games to be released (GoW2, RS, etc). PS3 is definatley on my to buy list though, it's just a matter of when. The same goes for the X360.

Wow, I need more cash. That's a lot of ****ing money right there.
 
Mashing said:
Honestly, I'll probably stick with the PS2 for a while since it still has some kickass games to be released (GoW2, RS, etc). PS3 is definatley on my to buy list though, it's just a matter of when. The same goes for the X360.
fair enough, I cant wait for GoW2 myself. :D

Wow, I need more cash. That's a lot of ****ing money right there.
tell me about it. :lol
 
the PS3 has at least one high-octane hyped profile exclusive game: resistance, and its a shooter to boot, which appeals to 80% of the casual crowd

and wouldnt current gamecube owners simply go for Zelda Gamecube? i mean, after being starved for games for almost 2 years now, i doubt most nintendo fans would shell $250 just to play a game that shoulda been released on gamecube back in april 2006........thats almost the same as saying that we should also count FF12 as another worthy "PS3 launch game" since it could also be played on thru BC
 
even if you don't like the PS3 launch titles, games beign released between December and March contain alot of continuous releases being pumped and there is no denying it.

Does the Wii's December to March window contain as much new releases on a continuous basis? where is Mario Galaxy?
 
frAntic_Frog said:
the PS3 has at least one high-octane hyped profile exclusive game: resistance, and its a shooter to boot, which appeals to 80% of the casual crowd

and wouldnt current gamecube owners simply go for Zelda Gamecube? i mean, after being starved for games for almost 2 years now, i doubt most nintendo fans would shell $250 just to play a game that shoulda been released on gamecube back in april 2006........thats almost the same as saying that we should also count FF12 as another worthy "PS3 launch game" since it could also be played on thru BC

I'm kinda suprised they weren't tempted to make FF12 a PS3 game, honestly.
 
WTF @ Excite Truck. That was going to be the first game I played when I got home Saturday night/Sunday Morning. I don't know that I can stand staring at the Wii sitting under my TV and not being able to play Excite Truck for 2 whole days...
 
DigitalA1chemy said:
WTF @ Excite Truck. That was going to be the first game I played when I got home Saturday night/Sunday Morning. I don't know that I can stand staring at the Wii sitting under my TV and not being able to play Excite Truck for 2 whole days...

Excite Truck is a launch game. Look again and you'll see it's street dated for the 19th. The date on the left is probably just a typo or something.
 
John Harker said:
As a gamer, I can't get over how just awful the PS3 launch lineup is.

Do they want us to buy a ton of blu ray movies instead or something?

How much money and time are you going to put into a game that you can only sell a few thousand copies of before the price drops? I'm shocked anyone's putting anything out on it.

Wait a few months; when there's enough people who can buy the games they want, then the games will come out of hiding.

And yeah, they'd love for you to spend your money on BD movies. Or really, on anything other than 360 games.

Sony should just subsidize prostitution for the coveted male 18-34 demographic until the PS3 is out in numbers. "My name is Candee. If you totalled up my costs, you should be paying almost $1500 for a night with me, but instead it'll only be $600. $529 for Japanese customers. But don't worry honey, I barely bother with the Asian market, I'd much rather be here in North America."

Gears of War or Sex? Assuming you HAD to choose, which would you choose? And are you part of our target market?
 
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