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Usage Based Billing approved, Canadian govt shoots it down, more developments to come
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RPG_Fanatic
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This is so stupid. My family uses on average 50 Gigs a month. Trying to wittle that number below 25 should be interesting.
Zombie James
Banned
I emailed my MP but he's just a backbencher. I'd email Clement but he's a tool.
For those of us on Bell's grandfathered unlimited plans, it has not been touched on in this thread as of yet, but you should be aware.
The CRTC has also, in this ruling, given Bell the right to raise our grandfathered accounts amounts twice a year in order to force us to move over to their UBB accounts.
The CRTC has also, in this ruling, given Bell the right to raise our grandfathered accounts amounts twice a year in order to force us to move over to their UBB accounts.
Cromulent_Word
Member
I just sent my MP an email about this. You should too.
If you're pissed, say so. It takes 5mins tops.
If you're pissed, say so. It takes 5mins tops.
ColonelSkills
Member
Being in Winnipeg, and being with Shaw's Extreme plan (Ugh), I guess I should consider myself lucky I get 100 GBs (right? Tell me this is at least true). I'd wonder if there was a better service provider to go with but in this area there's nothing but shit. It's a crying, crying shame.
But this is brutal. I sent my letters to my MP back several months ago but I wasn't even granted an automated courtesy response. Glad to see it falling on deaf ears again.
But this is brutal. I sent my letters to my MP back several months ago but I wasn't even granted an automated courtesy response. Glad to see it falling on deaf ears again.
This.dream said:
Perhaps the most important regulatory decision ever about Internet, blatantly anti consumer and anti competition, and not a word of outrage will reach the media and therefore voters. No politician will make this a major policy point in their platform. We just have to pucker up and get fucked.
Bell and Rogers make billions in profit off government subsidized networks. Why the hell did we give them all that money and the stranglehold on the market? It had been nothing but bad for consumers. If the government was worried about rural service their subsidies could've went to infrastructure there alone. The money actually given to Bell and Rogers has been far more than needed for that, and what did the public get for that investment? High prices, low caps, and the worst customer experience you could imagine due to no competition. Fuck the CRTC.
Twilight Princess
Member
im still on the grandfathered plan. if that's gone, i'll be switching for sure, but to whom?
Shaw (Western Canada cable monopoly) actually lowered the caps a few months ago.jambo said:
25Mbps/1Mbps, previously 120GB > now 100GB/month.
They claimed that it was a trial in a specific area hundreds of miles away however every customer received the benefit and everyone received an email explaining the raising on the caps. Coincidentally a few months ago when they decided to start installing monitoring equipment to enforce these caps they lowered it for the "benefit of the customer".
SolarPowered
Member
I use a D-link DIR-655 and it's not on the list for the tomato software. It does look swanky, but I guess I'll just have to look around for some decent software I can get for free.Zombie James said:
Thanks for the help
You have my condolences, Canada.
Australia has finally emerged from the horrible days of restrictive bandwidth caps, and you can now get unlimited ADSL2+ from a variety of sources.
I know how it feels though. What's even worse is the whole charging extra for going over. Most plans here (except Telstra, lol), used to just throttle your bandwidth. So you could still wait until the end of the month and just download everything in those last couple of days.
Australia has finally emerged from the horrible days of restrictive bandwidth caps, and you can now get unlimited ADSL2+ from a variety of sources.
I know how it feels though. What's even worse is the whole charging extra for going over. Most plans here (except Telstra, lol), used to just throttle your bandwidth. So you could still wait until the end of the month and just download everything in those last couple of days.
Rogers and Bell rape and rape while the CRTC keeps nodding.
The week Netflix came to Canada, the $60 Rogers plan 95GB CAP WAS LOWERED to 80GB as a direct response to competition. That's right, Rogers is so comfortable with their monopoly that their response to competition is to decrease service because they can make an alternative seem less appealing at the same time. That's a double FUCK YOU CUSTOMERS, we get less Internet AND Netflix becomes a less attractive option to cable. That could not be more blatantly anti-competitive, since Rogers on Demand (their pay per view service) doesn't count towards any data caps.
The CRTC is fucking Canada so hard.
The week Netflix came to Canada, the $60 Rogers plan 95GB CAP WAS LOWERED to 80GB as a direct response to competition. That's right, Rogers is so comfortable with their monopoly that their response to competition is to decrease service because they can make an alternative seem less appealing at the same time. That's a double FUCK YOU CUSTOMERS, we get less Internet AND Netflix becomes a less attractive option to cable. That could not be more blatantly anti-competitive, since Rogers on Demand (their pay per view service) doesn't count towards any data caps.
The CRTC is fucking Canada so hard.
Kabuki Quantum Lover
Member
I'm still livid. This doesn't feel good at all -- it's not comforting to know that my government is essentially run by corporations (telecom corporations of all things).
TekSavvy has been good to me, but they're going to get fucked from both sides of their services eventually. I don't know what to do... My Netflix account... So fucked up.
My mayor is an idiot, my premier is an idiot and my prime minister is a puppet. I fear for my country's future...
TekSavvy has been good to me, but they're going to get fucked from both sides of their services eventually. I don't know what to do... My Netflix account... So fucked up.
My mayor is an idiot, my premier is an idiot and my prime minister is a puppet. I fear for my country's future...
dream
Member
You know what was awesome? Telus, Bell, and Rogers all waiting until the last minute to announce iPhone 4 plans (we're talking literally a day before the launch) and all 3 carriers ended up offering 6GB of data for $30. Not a megabyte more. Not a dollar less.
What a coincidence, huh?
What a coincidence, huh?
TemplaerDude
Member
We need a riot.
That's the only way you can get anything done in this country.
That's the only way you can get anything done in this country.
Twilight Princess
Member
apparently(?), grandfathered plans will be fine, as long as you signed up before 2007.
Sinatar said:
I'm not really sure how getting rid of the CRTC altogether would help any. Then there'd be absolutely no check on corporate interests. The CRTC is simply corrupted and failing at their task.
The proper solution is that the organization needs to be overhauled. Perhaps the CRTC needs clarity on some issues and its direction.
Here's the CRTC's mission statement:
I'd think that the CRTC has maybe forgotten about that "World-class quality communications" bit?
Basically folks should mail their MP and perhaps vote NDP in the next election if no other party they prefer steps up to the plate.
Zombie James
Banned
dream said:
If you look in a Canadian thesaurus (or at least the one the CRTC uses), collusion is a synonym for competition.
hydragonwarrior
Member
Brandson said:
No, I doubt they would vote anyway. This particular generation of young voters are lazy as hell when it comes to voting.
TouchMyBox
Member
hamchan said:
I turned on one of my computers today and didn't touch a thing... It downloaded 700 MB.
spons
Gold Member
Most of it comes down to strict regulation. No net neutrality laws here; it's irrelevant. Providers are forced to be open about it and it suddenly becomes very unattractive to cap connections when you have to advertise with it. It's too late if it's already a normal habit for ISPs though, like in this case.Ledsen said: