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VGLeaks Durango specs: x64 8-core CPU @1.6GHz, 8GB DDR3 + 32MB ESRAM, 50GB 6x BD...
- Thread starter Shikoro
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Yep. The fastest BD-ROM drive isn't as fast as a standard shit traditional HDD. With SSD taking over (and likely for late revs of next gen consoles) and soon to break the SATA 6 Gb/s barrier, lol at optical media.
SneakyStephan
Banned
It'll be horrible... youtube is already horrible because of capture cards and 12 year olds with fraps.
Signal to noise ratio has never been lower for anything gaming related on youtube and google search.
Karak
Member
Could not agree more. Its fucked up right now.
But that has nothing to do, in my own use, when it comes to a feature on a system and doesn't lessen how cool it would be to be able to do this and share with pals and so on. Randoms is fine, but I would be doing this kind of thing to show others that I know and not Joebob1237@cool.com.
Then again that's assuming its for youtube and doesn't go to some kind of live website or something like that(doubt it)
It's a technically correct but disingenuous figure, comparable to walking into the PC thread and going on about how your 2004 Pentium 4 ticks along at 3.8ghz too. If you come up with it, either you honestly think it matters and deserve to learn better, or you're shilling and should be shouted down before some other poor fool makes the mistake of believing anything you say is relevant.
AgentP
Thinks mods influence posters politics. Promoted to QAnon Editor.
I would advise not saying anything definite, unless you work for MS and have used the final system. Otherwise you are making uneducated guesses about rumors from the non-technical background. If you want to repeat some B3D person, at least give a link and a name, I only trust about 5% of them.
Alx
Member
True, but "cool things" happen more frequently in games than real life... I'm not sure exactly what gamers will want to upload on Youtube, but if the majority record their best kills or each achievement unlocked, it may produce a significant amount of data.
This is the way I see it.. The system needs data that sits partially in the esRAM and partially in main RAM, so it reads from the esram at 102 gbps and from the main RAM at at 68 gbps.. So it's either reading at one of those speeds giving the system a MAXIMUM speed of 102 gbps.
The data in the esRAM was available faster than the data in main ram so the GPU or processor actually had to wait for the data in main RAM if needed, so because of this it is not like bandwidth is added to the system.
I might be wrong though..
The GPU can access both RAM and esRAM at the same time. I dont see how that is not 170 gbps. The GPU would receive 170 gb every sec.
Brad Grenz
Member
And yet it is still not comparable to a unified pool that can do 170 GBps. There is overhead involved in copying data between the different pools that reduces your effective aggregate bandwidth, and hard limits such that you can never read or write faster then 102GBps to one pool and 68GBps to the other.
Vast majority of data and traffic on the ESRAM will not come from the main memory though but will be generated by the GPU I imagine?
Possible. It's up to the devs what data they want to store there as the ESRAM is highly generic.
I just don't think Durango will be bandwidth starved, at least not anymore than Orbis for that matter. If you look at 360 vs PS3, total bandwidth was something 22GBps vs 47GBps for main memory pools yet 360 held its own thanks to that small embedded memory pool that apparently "doesn't count".
ps3 47GBps came from two memory pools though which caused problems
No.
HollovVpo1nt
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You can't be serious haha, what a load of crap.
iamshadowlark
Banned
These threads make my head hurt. You all haven't a clue what you're going on about.
REMEMBER CITADEL
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It only caused problems because of lack of flexibility with memory allocation. Combined with the fact that games had less available memory than on Xbox (larger OS footprint + the need to hold the frame buffer in video memory, as opposed to the 360's eDRAM), it was quite headache-inducing.
Non.
Just because you can add the bandwidth numbers of a really small fast pool of memory together with a large, slow pool does not mean it is the same as a single pool of memory with that bandwidth!
Anything in the small pool will be as fast to read and write as it is, anything in the large pool will be as slow to read and write as it is, on the other hand anything in a big fast pool will be as fast as it is, it does not matter what you can sum the two pools to.
REMEMBER CITADEL
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Nobody is saying it's the same, it's not the same. However, in actual real-life scenarios, they might be utilized to achieve similar results. Presuming that memory will work at sustained theoretical peak performance is wrong, the utilization will depend on the overall system architecture, the nature of code and other factors. In other words, we have insufficient information to claim either that they will perform roughly equally or that they won't. The proof will be in the games so we'll just have to wait and see.
Not likely but not impossible. I could see a 10 second ad to kick start the ARG happening.
JonathanPower
Member
The difference is that if you want to use the eSRAM to store the framebuffer you have only 32MB of RAM you can use, while in the PS4 you don't have this limitation since all 4GB have the same bandwidth.
We have a list of who's advertising during the Super Bowl and what their spots are called. MS isn't on the list. Sony is, but theirs is for GOWA, not hardware.
That list isn't complete. Plenty of advertisers choose to withhold participation from that list.
Next year's superbowl when the console is available and less supply constrained, not this year's...
I am still alive!
Cheesecakebobby
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just to say it's true, my Dell laptop which wasn't high end when it launched in 2010 runs rings around most 360 titles. I couldn't believe how awesome Sonic all stars transformed looks at 1080p 60fps after playing the ugly 360 demo.
CrunchinJelly
formerly cjelly
How does Crysis 3 run on your laptop?
It's a definitive sign of no backwards compatibility.
It seems as though Kotaku will also be revealing some news about Durango soon.
https://twitter.com/superDaE/status/298197118013804544
https://twitter.com/superDaE/status/298197118013804544
Yes, it should be tomorrow if they're staying consistent with how they've been doing things.
Boss Man
Member
Have they said if it's going to be Durango news? Seems like it would be.
pharmboy044
Member
Yep, it'll probably be the same time the Orbis info was released last Monday.
Mr.X on vgleaks said to expect Durango news soon.
http://www.vgleaks.com/rumors-ps4orbis-touchpad-details-estimated-launch/
Comment section.
I really wouldn't expect such questions on a website like NeoGAF.
Tripp Daily
Member
Was hoping for a super bowl spot like a tease for an announcement or something. Lol
Um, where's this from? Can't find it on VGleaks.
SlickShoesRUCrazy
Member
what's sc?
shader core
I'm sure they'll post the text tomorrow
Pretty colors though.
Cheesecakebobby
Banned
games not out yet is it? I played a little of the original on high settings.