People just love to argue about this stuff.
I mean people continue to argue about the relative power of the PS2, Xbox, and Gamecube to this day.
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Vigil Art Director in 2012: Wii U is pretty powerful.
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People just love to argue about this stuff.
I mean people continue to argue about the relative power of the PS2, Xbox, and Gamecube to this day.
jump_button
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same thing can be say about the "On par" his game look on par with other
Jorok Goldblade
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Guys who want to explore the power (Technical Director, Art Director): It's a beast.
Guy who has to worry about shipping a game on time (Game Director): Weaksauce. Not worth making new assets. Move along.
Guy who has to worry about shipping a game on time (Game Director): Weaksauce. Not worth making new assets. Move along.
Shin Johnpv
Member
No what actually happened was, first (in 2011) some one who directly worked with the hardware said it was more powerful then the current gen, then the game director who doesn't have anything to do with hardware said it was on par, then at the same time as that, ANOTHER person who deals directly with the hardware says its pretty powerful, and more powerful than the current gen.
Neogaf, jumps on and clings to the comments by the person who doesn't touch hardware, and ignores the 2 comments from the people who actually work with the hardware.
Where in that quote that you get "more powerful"? He just say it's pretty powerful.
Anywho. I have no doubt in my mind that the Wii U will be more powerful than the current gen hardware. Though I suspect it probably won't be much of a leap. Which means the "on par" comment is fine as well.
Barack Lesnar
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This statement is more vague than the last one. Sadly, the thread probably won't go nuclear as a result.
snoopeasystreet
Member
He doesn't say more powerful. He says it's a powerful machine. Obviously, it will have more juice than current PS360... but that doesn't mean it's not on par with them either. All he said it's a 'powerful machine' not more powerful.
I don't know why that is so hard. What are you defending? Is your enjoyment of the system going to be any less or more if the machine is 5000x more powerful or on par with current machines? I'm going to say no, you'll enjoy it just fine.
Rahxephon91
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No it doesn't.
DXB-KNIGHT
Member
The Wii U news is like a roller coaster and I'm really enjoying the ride whatever the end result will be
He said 'pretty powerful' not 'more powerful'. In addition, he could well mean you can do more with the Wii-U than you could if they were working on the Wii. Now, I think you're likely correct but you shouldn't be acting as if you have the sole possible interpretation of the mans comments.
You've used up your allotment of bolded and underlined letters for the week in that post. I hope you enjoyed it.
I should have written "more" powerful rather than "more powerful," because that's spelled out clearly when he literally says "more resources" and that they can "do a lot more."
I thought people could have pieced that together.
I thought wrong.
Why would they be comparing the technical capabilities of the Wii U to a system they never worked on?
That's just as silly as assuming he's saying the Wii U is actually super-mega powerful.
No... you can't argue facts.
But when everything is up to speculation, apparently most of the people who frequent the nintendo threads have to fall on one side or the other.
Me, I'm taking a wait and see approach and still buy the system because I want to play Nintendo's first party games in HD. I guess when I buy all systems because I like games, I don't become a rabid fanboy.
Dude, they never worked on the wii. They never touched the wii. The statement makes zero sense in relation to the wii. This isn't about interpretation, it's about common sense.
"more ressources, can do a lot more on the platform" does, though. Which he also said.
Read the actual quote, not just the thread title.
Uno Venova
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They're all saying pretty similar things, only people try to spin one into contradicting another quote.
Barack Lesnar
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I think snoop was joking/mocking guek's post
Guerrillas in the Mist
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The thing is, Nintendo aren't going to release exact specs, so even after E3, there's going to be a shitton of debate on this subject. It won't be helped by the fact that most of the third party games will probably be straight PS360 ports with Upad functionality added on.
I think you'll set yourself for disappointment when you find out 720/PS4's specs.
Barack Lesnar
Banned
"do a lot more" could easily be in reference to the tablet controller and what they can do with that. In fact, I'm guessing that's what he meant.
Powerful is a relative term that needs context to make any sense. In 2012, slightly above 360/PS3 isn't powerful. Given that there is no Wii version of DS2, he's comparing it to said 360/PS3. He says they more resources and can do more than those two. The art director is saying the Wii U is powerful relative of the current gen consoles.
Glorified G
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This is what I was going to post. But you pretty much nailed it. Wii U being a powerful/or more powerful is not mutually exclusive from it being on par with the current gen.
Damage control thread when it's not needed.
More resources could mean more ram, which would allow you to do "alot more" without being more powerful at all. Still doesn't make the comment any less vague.
Except he's talking power and resources, but believe whatever you want.
I'm not even trying to say here that the console suddenly isn't "on par" with the current gen. You can be on par and still do a "lot" more, such as with the xbox vs ps2/DC. I accepted a long time ago that Wii U isn't going to be some monumental leap over the current gen.
I'm just irritated that people really can't wrap their heads around the fact that it doesn't make sense for him to be talking about wii.
So, taking these quotes together, we come to the conclusion that the WiiU is more powerful than the PS360, but not by a giant margin, hence why it's still "on par" with the current HD consoles. Like the fact that the PS3 is technically more powerful than a Xbox 360, but they are definitely on par.
Am I doing it right?
Shin Johnpv
Member
Why would the art director be talking about things to do with the tablet. Think in context of whose being asked the question. The ART DIRECTOR is saying they can do more with the system. It doesn't take a giant leap to realize he's talking about doing more with the ART, since he's the ART director.
Their secretary.
Refreshment.01
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An abacus is pretty powerful... compared to doing math with a stick and some sand, however it wont be running UE 4 any time soon
Let this one go guys, expect slight improvements over current gen games. Just wish for the devs to take some time an implement the controller in interesting ways.
You're a strange guy. Devs are privy to the Wii's technical specs without having necessarily created a game for it. Some devs never made anything for the Wii specifically because of its limited tech, so it stands to reason that some would ultimately feel the Wii U is capable of more by comparison.
It's a vague, worthless quote, and certainly nothing to be getting riled up over.
When you are a huge fan of Nintendo games that has been stuck with Gamecube level hardware for the last 11 years you start to go a bit overboard at the idea of Nintendo finally having a decent machine.
"There is not much I can really talk about right now, but I think that the Wii U is a pretty powerful machine, which obviously means more resources, and means you can do a lot more. So the Wii U team is doing very well, we've been working with Nintendo and I think it's going to be a very exciting version of Darksiders but we want to keep the overall theme relatively consistent."
Pretty sure that translates into one thing: "Wii U has more resources and can do a lot more, but we want to keep the overall theme relatively consistent."
From what we know about the ram alone, that comment makes sense, but my god, if they could make a 360 level gpu this day and age without actually wasting more money then building something at least 2x more powerful, I think you'd have a point.
Anyways don't let your argument get in the way of logic.
Except he was talking about DS2. You know. The game they're working on that has nothing to do with wii. It's called context.
And I'm not getting riled up over whether or not the wii u is super powerful. I agree it's a relatively worthless quote, just like the "on par" quote. I just don't like it when people are being, you know, dumb.
H_Prestige
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Shhh, thinking isn't allowed here.
Yes but multiple threads and thousands of posts about it in the speculation thread is a bit much.
You should realize that roughly 99% of people in the speculation thread think exactly that. But you don't, and it's troubling.
AndyMoogle
Member
There are multiple threads and thousands of posts about the next Xbox and PlayStation as well. The closer we get to those releases, the more threads and posts there will be.