VitaGAF, my conviction is wavering. I was, but a few days ago, convinced I'd be picking up Sly 4 upon release in early February. But before doing so, I wanted to play and finish the final Sly I had remaining on the HD collection - Honor Among Thieves. Damn, what was Sucker Punch thinking with that game? By the end of the trilogy, they'd removed so much of what made the original charming. And I just didn't enjoy the third game. I had it on PS2, but I didn't play much beyond Venice. Yuck. Leaves a sour taste, and I haven't even started the challenges yet... It's not gon' be pretty. I know Sanzaru cut out a bunch of the teammates, but I truly hope they go back to more linear levels, and a larger emphasis on platforming, not extended heists that link one mini-game to another. And I REALLY hope they fix some of the collision detection issues. I lost count of the times I hit O to latch onto a hook or a wall ring, simply to sail underneath it or past it.