She's the minority leader in the House, it's a dead-end position.
They're clearly working on a unified plank- Sanders is suddenly talking about a Public Option.
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Vox: Bernie Sanders is the Democrats real 2020 frontrunner
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They're clearly working on a unified plank- Sanders is suddenly talking about a Public Option.
Bolivar687
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http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/02/hillary-clinton-is-running-for-president-again-214766
GAF, I hate to be the bearer of bad news but none of you have any say whatsoever in who will receive the nomination in 2020. That's because Hillary Clinton is going to buy it again. She's going to use her shady connections to blackball her would-be opponents, her Clinton Foundation millions to bury the rest underneath a mountain of salacious attack ads, and her supporters on Neogaf will systematically single out, dogpile, ridicule, insult, shame, and, ideally, permanently ban anyone with the gall to mention her lifetime of documented unethical conduct. She's going to talk down to normal Americans about their values, divide us in ways we never thought imaginable and, ultimately, lose her third bid to seize the Presidency, for the second time against Donald J. Trump, of all people. And this time she won't blame sexism, Russians, or the DNC. She's going to blame you.
And there's nothing any of us can do to stop this from happening.
GAF, I hate to be the bearer of bad news but none of you have any say whatsoever in who will receive the nomination in 2020. That's because Hillary Clinton is going to buy it again. She's going to use her shady connections to blackball her would-be opponents, her Clinton Foundation millions to bury the rest underneath a mountain of salacious attack ads, and her supporters on Neogaf will systematically single out, dogpile, ridicule, insult, shame, and, ideally, permanently ban anyone with the gall to mention her lifetime of documented unethical conduct. She's going to talk down to normal Americans about their values, divide us in ways we never thought imaginable and, ultimately, lose her third bid to seize the Presidency, for the second time against Donald J. Trump, of all people. And this time she won't blame sexism, Russians, or the DNC. She's going to blame you.
And there's nothing any of us can do to stop this from happening.
John Caboose
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I think Zuckerberg has a good shot at taking the democratic nomination.
Whatever. Not my country.
Whatever. Not my country.
Godzilla's Left Toe
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We have young energetic politicians like Kamala Harris and Joe Kennedy III why are we still talking about Sanders.
Twig and Berries
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Not only that, it makes no sense that just because minorities preferred Hillary, they would vote Trump over him in the general.
Not to say Bernie couldn't do a lot better when it comes to addressing minority communities.
Dubbedinenglish
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The poster isn't wrong. After a few months Trump is already deforming into an elder orange blob. Having someone young and fit standing across from him is a stark contrast.
Morrigan Stark
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lol what is this? I say this as a female Bernie supporter, this post is ridiculous and reeks of parody...
Because it's too early to know who is actually running, and Sanders is a known quantity.
I like Kennedy when i heard his interview on Pod save america. He seems like a genuine guy. Him and Harris would make a good team.
Poor GRIMES
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what is this lol
NoblesseOblige
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It's a Crab Bernie post. So expect a level of crazy.
2020 is years away and 2018 isn't sexy, what do you expect news outlets to write op-eds about?
TheCochese
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This is good parody.
Khaos Kontrol
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Kanye? He'd most likely run as a dem if he actually does run. But I can't see him getting past primaries. Then again many said the same about Trump.....
Albino_Yeti
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If she actually does run again, and the DNC actually lets her become the Dem nominee, then they deserve all the losses that will come their way.
I really don't see her running again tho.
TheLostBigBoss
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THE TRUTH
legacyzero
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How's that soul searching goin right now. The party is still corporatist, their message is "RUSSIA!" And the DNC head runs on bullshit platitudes and no substance. Going well!
This has always been a strange narrative against Bernie. Always makes me chuckle.
Progressives love her for one. And how is she not?
TheLaughingStock
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I didn't say he wouldn't have a good shot. He had a decent shot last time but folks who control the liberal party didn't want him.
They don't agree with his policies and don't think he can win. So, I think he would run up against the same arguments again and come up short unless he had that political revolution he kept harping about.
legacyzero
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In nodding so hard right now. And there is a possibility she'll run again. God help us all.
Frozenprince
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Dudes a trump Stan just ignore it
Hydrophobic
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I might be wrong, but I think you're nodding at over the top parody.
Edit: Or looking above maybe I'm wrong lol
Veritigo_X
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Let's start with how she is a progressive without saying "Bernie Sanders."
Give this a read as well:
https://www.jacobinmag.com/2017/05/tulsi-gabbard-president-sanders-democratic-party
balladofwindfishes
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There is no possibility she runs again, she's done
Frozenprince
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Lol of course you are.
TheLostBigBoss
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It's InfoWars level stupid.
So yea if you think that above is going to happen might be time to think about some stuff and look out for the gay frogs
NoblesseOblige
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Crazy agrees with crazy.
NYR
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No, no we don't. 99.99999% of 30 year olds couldn't run a fortune 500 company let alone a country. There are only two Fortune 500 CEOs of that age - Mark Zuckerberg and Keith Cozza
We need a JFK (43), Clinton (46) or Obama (47), someone with actual life experience.
eBay Huckster
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decently, for a party that's been out of power slightly longer than the shortest successful human gestation period.
not well, by any other standard. but, like, this happens. the democrats were in the wilderness for a generation after the civil war, then the years around WW1 were a clusterfuck of party swaps, then the GOP was in the wilderness for a generation after the depression, and now we have another clusterfuck of party swaps.
don't insult me.
The DNC is a complete shit show right now, but the spectre of Bernie perpetually looming guarantees no real progress will be made even if they get their heads on straight.
Twig and Berries
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That's not really fair to the current dems. They've had to transition to being an opposition party and I think they're doing OK. It's true that their message is muddy beyond "not Trump" but that's also a very important message to push right now.
Ziltoidia 9
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Why would the DNC ever get behind someone that wants to get tons and tons of money out of politics? its a freaking industry of consultants, etc, and thats why they will never get behind him.
jack_package_200
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How unsurprising
legacyzero
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Understood on that- but the same people that are telling me that "votes are what matters!" When Hillary was attacked on LGBT issues (which to me is the roughest part to read in that article) back in the 90s. Hell even looking at conservative type stances on abortion. Weren't both Hillary and Tim Caine Pro-Life , but votes with the party on abortion rights?
When I challenges stances like that, I was told "people evolve!"
Of course. I've never been shy about my support, but hat post was somehow a little validating TBH
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I feel like people aren't seeing the same decimated Democratic Party I'm seeing. It's worrying
Father_Brain
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I really, really doubt Clinton will run again, but even if she did, I can't imagine that she would win the primary. The narrative of her inevitability and electability has been completely demolished.
Hickbilly Deluxe
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If she did run again nd blew it, she would be burned at the stake for a generation or more along with the family name She's not dumb enough to risk it.
DrROBschiz
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thepotatoman
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No they don't. There's a clear split among bernie supporters about Gabbard. She's mostly popular with the Bernie voter turned Trump voter crowd as the burn it all down populist. Not the progressives.
eBay Huckster
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if clinton runs again and finishes in the top 2, i'm going to light my computer on fire and record it. the idea that she's going to willingly go through this shit again, rather than endorse someone who isn't a zillion years old with enough baggage to fit in a mcmansion, is a politico writer's fever dream.
you'll have to excuse them. with some of weaver's decisions last year, he might as well have been
you'll have to excuse them. with some of weaver's decisions last year, he might as well have been
Carpe Libertatem
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Bernie doesn't use political consultants??
Do people think Bernie ran his entire campaign by himself??
legacyzero
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I meant generally. Of course there are some in the party that are Aware that she has issues. As a matter of fact, it was GAF that alerted me to Tulsi's issues. She's not my prime choice.
That's just completely unfounded though. It makes not sense to me
They lost an election because they had no meaningful message other than "Trump is a scumbag!" THats so fucking obvious!! Voters don't give a shit about that. Saying "I like good things and hate the bad things!" Isn't substance. It's platitudes and empty rhetoric. They are completely disconnected from the voter. They need to be talking ISSUES. Not Russia, and not "TRUMP BAD."
What am I of not consistent ❤️
This is funny but probably untrue. Something I'm probably guilty of as well. Fanaticism for political candidates baffles the shit out me. That counts Hill supporters, Bernie-Croats, and Trumpsters alike.
A president shouldn't have "fans". They should have Citizens that hold them accountable to EVERYTHING, regardless of their vote. Really got now, presidential support seems like video game console wars. People supporting a console regardless of glaring flaws.
For instance- people saying Bernie wasn't good for minorities is liquid bullshit. But I agree that if you Primary message is "THE TOP ONE PAHCENT!!" Isn't going to win them over that easy. I've criticized that. Still do
Oh, those were the days.
If she had won the nomination in 2008, she would have won the general election, just based on how tilted the fundamentals were in favor of the Democrats. It was a close primary, but she lost to the best candidate of either party of my entire lifetime.
Ah, some more juicy comments:
eBay Huckster
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they're talking issues. half the damn house caucus is signed onto HR 676. the senate caucus is starting to go in that direction.
the media is, as usual, not covering the issues (peep how little attention they're giving to a bill that will upend 1/6 of the economy and result in thousands of preventable deaths, for fuck's sake), because russia's still getting them absurd ratings.
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