MickeyKnox
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Dyack's problem is that he's a complete loon. The "resistance" he finds on these forums is from rational people trying to digest his batshit insane ramblings.Ark-AMN said:
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******* vs. David Jaffe - Meltdown
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I didn't know he made that. Then I am incorrect. Still, doesn't mean he should be making rants like this. I expect to hear things like this on Halo 2 from 12 year old kids alongside "I'm going to **** your mom tonight! Ha ha ha!" I don't expect it from a grown game developer. And people wonder why the industry doesn't get more respect.Helzown said:
Kabuki Waq
Member
the disgruntled gamer said:
For all we know Dyack could eat Babies for lunch. He really does not come off as the most Genuine guy on the planet. Hell he went after someone who does previews just to push his own agenda.
but atleast he doesnt swear in public.
smartestpersonever
Banned
He should start a forum called NeoJAFFE.
But seriously, everyone agrees that joy schtick is crap. Everyone I know stopped reading them over a year ago. How can he expect reasonable discourse from them? And why does he freak out and go ballistic when a garbage site spews some garbage? He needs to chill out and take his meds. Responding like this just shows your enemy that they can get to you and reveals your weakspots. Joyschite will not let this go. This is exactly what they want.
But seriously, everyone agrees that joy schtick is crap. Everyone I know stopped reading them over a year ago. How can he expect reasonable discourse from them? And why does he freak out and go ballistic when a garbage site spews some garbage? He needs to chill out and take his meds. Responding like this just shows your enemy that they can get to you and reveals your weakspots. Joyschite will not let this go. This is exactly what they want.
Kabuki Waq said:
First of all... why is Dyack even an issue in this thread?
Second of all, I don't think it's his swearing that people hate. If Will Wright stood up and said this game will be ****ing revollutionary about Spore... we'd all just agree. It's the fact that he comes across as a REAL LIFE Internet troll. He's like Drinky Crow but incapable of garnering my respect from time to time. Any valid point he makes is overshadowed by the fact that he's an angsty 12 year old.
MrSardonic
The nerdiest nerd of all the nerds in nerdland
JdFoX187 said:
Jaffe doesn't have an attitude of "we're the best developer, our next game will be the best ever, how dare you say that a shit build was a shit build".
JdFoX187 said:
Except that it's nothing like that because he's not pissed at criticism of the game...he's pissed at being criticised for going back to fix aspects of the game that were criticised!
JdFoX187 said:
Except that it's nothing like that.
It's like you didn't even ****ing read what this story is about.
JdFoX187 said:
Does the film industry lose respect when a director/actor/writer goes off on an ****-filled rant? Of course not. Creative industries are not populated by polite robots, there are always some people who blow their tops when provoked...that doesn't mean everyone should do it, that they are always correct, or that it won't please some people, but it certainly doesn't negate the fact that he is justified in feeling pissed off.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Jaffe you are the man. Don't leave GAF. 
Pureauthor
Member
Timan said:
If what he's currently speaking is his mind, then it probably needs washing out with soap.
Kabuki Waq
Member
Helzown said:
His lackies keep bringing him up.
any how is JAffe a troll? what game did he badmouth? he just responded to a blatantly retarded article.
FirstInHell
Banned
the disgruntled gamer said:
That is 100% correct. There are plenty of other good games out there. Why should this guy be rewarded for this type of behavior with my money? I have no intention of ever bothering with any game Jaffe produces because I don't like how he conducts himself and his persona annoys me. His next game could be lauded as the second coming and receive straight 10s and I would have no interest in it. He is that abrasive.
Wow...relax. Are you Jaffe Jr? Please, say "Except that it's nothing like that..." one more time. Please?MrSardonic said:
I do believe Dyack went dark for months trying to fix his game that a lot of people had complaints about. When the cover was unveiled, it looked like something special. Go back and skim through the Too Human thread, asside from a few haters, it was generally mass praise.
You say I didn't even read the story. I don't think you even read the Joystiq story. They simply made an analogy about a girl not wanting to give up her doll. He doesn't want to give his game up yet. Maybe not the most tasteful analogy there is, but there's no reason to go on a bitch fest like he did. I would expect a response like that toward somebody who attacked my family unjustly, not pointing out a dev wanted to fix his game first.
It's always a little disheartening when you find that some developers are, in fact, just like the messageboard ranters you come across from time to time.
Like that guy who uses the GDC conference (I think it was that one) for trolling.
Jaffe needs a little bigger portfolio - as fun as God of War and Twisted Metal are - before hitting up the primadonna route.
Not too mention that - while I don't read that Banned Site - it seems like I have to agree with some of the posters here that some reading comprehension problems have shown up.
Like that guy who uses the GDC conference (I think it was that one) for trolling.
Jaffe needs a little bigger portfolio - as fun as God of War and Twisted Metal are - before hitting up the primadonna route.
Not too mention that - while I don't read that Banned Site - it seems like I have to agree with some of the posters here that some reading comprehension problems have shown up.
.Justin Bailey
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You keep fighting the good fight, brother. Maybe one day you'll realize your dream of using money to manipulate people into acting the way you want them to.FirstInHell said:
Rekki-Maru
Banned
:lol
Well, now i know why that site is banned from this forum.
Well, now i know why that site is banned from this forum.
Red Blaster
Member
wrong thread
Actually, from my experience, ******* seems like trolls too. Did the game being delayed a few days really warrant them saying something like "Like a little girl struggling to keep her favorite doll out of the garage sale bin, David Jaffe is returning to the world of Calling All Cars to make some fixes and revise some of the criticisms the title received via reviews"?Helzown said:
Rekki-Maru
Banned
Grecco said:
qft
MrSardonic
The nerdiest nerd of all the nerds in nerdland
JdFoX187 said:
:lol I'm perfectly relaxed.
However, you should stop talking out of your arse if you can't handle being called out for it.
So I'm talking out my ass because I simply say the dude is acting like an immature 12 year-old I find on Xbox LIVE because he complains when a website criticises him? You need to take off your rose-colored glasses my friend. Jaffe is not this God that you think he is. He's a developer who has some serious anger problems and needs to learn some composure.MrSardonic said:
jaffe's pissed because the stupid site didnt appreciated a rare good thing he did for games like fixing something last min.
he cares about his games, he doesnt wanna patch it later on while other ppl bitch about it first day, he rather get it done than later. he risked changing something that might create more problem yet.. his effort is seen negative.
he cares about his games, he doesnt wanna patch it later on while other ppl bitch about it first day, he rather get it done than later. he risked changing something that might create more problem yet.. his effort is seen negative.
Scottlarock
Banned
are you buying it because it looks like a fun game, or because he cuss'd on the interweb?warthog said:
Wait, you said this kind of behavior from Jaffe is why the game industry doesn't get more respect, regardless of whether he gets called for it. Music and movie industries have plenty of people mouthing off far less intelligently than Jaffe is, so are you saying the music and movie industries aren't respected either?JdFoX187 said:
Rekki-Maru
Banned
spwolf said:
:lol
"oh noes! he say bad words! time to boycott the industry, ftl!"
POWERSPHERE
Member
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FirstInHell
Banned
the disgruntled gamer said:
You are completely missing the point and have decided to selectively pick out parts of what I said to fit your "ownage" me.
Cursing has nothing to do with my opinion as a whole. Are you completely unaware of how Jaffe conducts himself? Are you legitimately surprised that people would not want to join in on the Jaffe Circle Jerk thread Part 1,207 at GAF?
I think the whole situation is sad. Here we have one of the few developers that are willing to speak their mind and not hold anything back, talk with the community on a regular basis, and even going so far as to fix an issue with the game that was said in reviews, and instead of embracing him people like them rather exploit him and take shots.
It's ****ing ridiculous. Now if other people in the industry want to be open and honest they'll just look at Jaffe's situation and say **** it, I rather be a PR mouth piece.
It's ****ing ridiculous. Now if other people in the industry want to be open and honest they'll just look at Jaffe's situation and say **** it, I rather be a PR mouth piece.
Jaffe is credited for working on these games:
God of War II (2007), SCEA
God of War (2005), SCEA
Kinetica (2001), SCEA
Twisted Metal: Black (2001), SCEA
Twisted Metal III (1998), 989 Studios
Jet Moto (1996), SCEA
Twisted Metal 2 (1996), SCEA
Twisted Metal (1995), Sony Computer Entertainment Europe Ltd.
3 Ninjas Kick Back (1994), Sony Imagesoft
Mickey Mania (1994), Sony Electronic Publishing Ltd.
Cliffhanger (1993), Sony Imagesoft
Skyblazer (1993), Sony Imagesoft
I thought he was also involved in (but I may be wrong):
Critical Depth
Rogue Trip
Downhill Domination
So he does have a resume.
God of War II (2007), SCEA
God of War (2005), SCEA
Kinetica (2001), SCEA
Twisted Metal: Black (2001), SCEA
Twisted Metal III (1998), 989 Studios
Jet Moto (1996), SCEA
Twisted Metal 2 (1996), SCEA
Twisted Metal (1995), Sony Computer Entertainment Europe Ltd.
3 Ninjas Kick Back (1994), Sony Imagesoft
Mickey Mania (1994), Sony Electronic Publishing Ltd.
Cliffhanger (1993), Sony Imagesoft
Skyblazer (1993), Sony Imagesoft
I thought he was also involved in (but I may be wrong):
Critical Depth
Rogue Trip
Downhill Domination
So he does have a resume.
bananabread
Member
1. Jaffe goes back and fixes bug in a game close to release
2. Everyone happy
3. Banned site posts analogy comparing Jaffe to a small girl who is unwilling to let go of her prized possession because she just loves it that much
4: Jaffe misses the point
5. Jaffe: "HURGHALURGALURGHAF*CK"
6. NeoGAF: "Ahahahah this guy is amazing, Hi5 Jaffe!"
Where in the above scenario between Jaffe completely missing the point of the article and then getting high-fives from GAF does he do something completely awesome? The banned site is a pretty awful website, but to anyone with a basic understanding of metaphor they really don't seem to have done anything wrong and were in fact saying something positive about Jaffe and Calling All Cars.
Seems to me he just felt that his manhood had been threatened by the little girl remarks and the RED MIST came down and then he started typing angrily on the internet.
2. Everyone happy
3. Banned site posts analogy comparing Jaffe to a small girl who is unwilling to let go of her prized possession because she just loves it that much
4: Jaffe misses the point
5. Jaffe: "HURGHALURGALURGHAF*CK"
6. NeoGAF: "Ahahahah this guy is amazing, Hi5 Jaffe!"
Where in the above scenario between Jaffe completely missing the point of the article and then getting high-fives from GAF does he do something completely awesome? The banned site is a pretty awful website, but to anyone with a basic understanding of metaphor they really don't seem to have done anything wrong and were in fact saying something positive about Jaffe and Calling All Cars.
Seems to me he just felt that his manhood had been threatened by the little girl remarks and the RED MIST came down and then he started typing angrily on the internet.