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Some of you might recognize her voice, I am so glad she returns.
There is no need being shy about naming Aloe here, youtube fans might be protecting her but she needs more support than protection at this point she got fired after all. Aloe is not her name anymore but can still support the poor girl who got a raw deal.

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can't stay up to see her live but here is a new link

hope she finds her spot in the vtuber world
 
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it is always interesting to see the amount of respect Sora gets




even Hip Hop reaction youtubers are falling down the rabbit hole

I kinda feel bad for them sometimes their channels never recover
 
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Not sure what I started but I shrimped my way into getting Gura to Challenge Haachama

I had to do it or poor Ina or Ame would hurt themselves trying to keep up with her.
This way if clippers clip her challenge to Haachama none of those girls get hurt.

Haachama can take her.

got to watch this later
 
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Oh this is the big event Gura was sad about, she is trying to get better at Mario Kart because she wants to do well in big collabs like this one

Kiara finally passes Ina in subs she is more agressive about her sub count than Ina

maybe it won't bother Ina as much that she is in last place in her Gen. Ina will hit 700K the natural way
 
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I was thinking of setting up my Switch and getting a few laps on MK8 to see if I can race Gura in the members only stream
might be too many shrimps.


now this is a crazy combo must watch full stream


another weird one
Too many shrimps.

Do you mean simps, like you; drsperate to race someone who doesn't even know you exist?

I don't understand, do you masturbate to these cartoon girls ?
 
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I'm not trying to insult I'm genuinely curious as to why people watch stuff like this? What do your friends think when they watch it with you?

Yes I'm old and yes I don't get it

Dude Polka's 3D is about to start...

Short answer the Art and Technology that is what got me into it. Long answer is also simple, Money. There is a lot of Money in a version of this stuff in the future. Don't stay blind to it. Most geeks who are following this are also trying to find new ways to make money.

I would not post about them if I was not willing to humor everyone who wanted to shit on me for posting something that they find weird and can't understand.

Most weebs are shy people. I out grew my weeb stage a long time ago. This is something new to learn, understand, and invest in.

I liked you better when you did not try to lie, coming at my like a Chad trying to get your shots in was cuter. I don't see the point so it means nothing to me.
I think the best thing to do if you are really curious about a man's sex life is not to try to tell them what they can and cannot do with their dicks.

You say you are not trying to insult but that really was not curiousity at all it was childish and if I wanted to feel ashamed of my dick use I would be at ResetEra.

I watch Hololive vtubers because it is one of the few sane things left you can do during this virus bullshit. Cyberpunk was suppose to take over some down time by now but I would be crazy to waste my money or time on that. Pimps, Hoes, and Tricks are nothing new so who gives a fuck how a man spends his money on his free time?

I'm probably older than you and I get it. This is the new Video Game. When Atari came out when Arcades was a thing people did not get it. This is that Blade Runner shit just be glad a human still controls it. You should be curious because I am not sure this is just going to die off. I don't think you can shame the guys who are pushing it into stopping.

Shit changes dude. People don't even see wtf SpaceX is doing today, most of us are stuck in the bullshit politics threads like those fuckers give a fuck about us?

And you are asking me if this girl knows my name? I'm a Shrimp so yeah Gura says my name often enough. If your money is real then yeah the shit is real. That is all that matters in this world, money. It still rules everything this is work for them, entertainment for me.

It is just a new weird form of passing your time, entertainment you know. I am pretty sure some 'Simps' might find a sexual kink in this I am not one to judge what folks get off on but nah this is not a sex thing. A big waste of time to try and shit on simps, that is not really the real word for vtubers because Shrimps are not asking for bath water from some IG Thot. They are just learning how to communicate in new languages, passing their time at work, same shit normal people do with a TV or Radio. The girls are background noise or fantasy go as deep as you want.

Let me go watch Polka
 
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Oh shit I forgot it was 6AM and I was laughing my ass off Polka is a clown! 90K watching her 3D she really turned her channel around.

I don't know which is scarier the Live2D tech or this 3D capture tech. But I can see when computers are strong enough to run Deep Fakes on this it will not be about anime girls anymore.

Polka is pretty smart, most of these girls are sharp entertainers. This was a good take on the Circus theme.
 
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Dude Polka's 3D is about to start...

Short answer the Art and Technology that is what got me into it. Long answer is also simple, Money. There is a lot of Money in a version of this stuff in the future. Don't stay blind to it. Most geeks who are following this are also trying to find new ways to make money.

I would not post about them if I was not willing to humor everyone who wanted to shit on me for posting something that they find weird and can't understand.

Most weebs are shy people. I out grew my weeb stage a long time ago. This is something new to learn, understand, and invest in.

I liked you better when you did not try to lie, coming at my like a Chad trying to get your shots in was cuter. I don't see the point so it means nothing to me.
I think the best thing to do if you are really curious about a man's sex life is not to try to tell them what they can and cannot do with their dicks.

You say you are not trying to insult but that really was not curiousity at all it was childish and if I wanted to feel ashamed of my dick use I would be at ResetEra.

I watch Hololive vtubers because it is one of the few sane things left you can do during this virus bullshit. Cyberpunk was suppose to take over some down time by now but I would be crazy to waste my money or time on that. Pimps, Hoes, and Tricks are nothing new so who gives a fuck how a man spends his money on his free time?

I'm probably older than you and I get it. This is the new Video Game. When Atari came out when Arcades was a thing people did not get it. This is that Blade Runner shit just be glad a human still controls it. You should be curious because I am not sure this is just going to die off. I don't think you can shame the guys who are pushing it into stopping.

Shit changes dude. People don't even see wtf SpaceX is doing today, most of us are stuck in the bullshit politics threads like those fuckers give a fuck about us?

And you are asking me if this girl knows my name? I'm a Shrimp so yeah Gura says my name often enough. If your money is real then yeah the shit is real. That is all that matters in this world, money. It still rules everything this is work for them, entertainment for me.

It is just a new weird form of passing your time, entertainment you know. I am pretty sure some 'Simps' might find a sexual kink in this I am not one to judge what folks get off on but nah this is not a sex thing. A big waste of time to try and shit on simps, that is not really the real word for vtubers because Shrimps are not asking for bath water from some IG Thot. They are just learning how to communicate in new languages, passing their time at work, same shit normal people do with a TV or Radio. The girls are background noise or fantasy go as deep as you want.

Let me go watch Polka

You do you dude, I hope you are truly happy.
 
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Damn dude, I actually feel sorry for you.

Not in an insult way, just feel sad that you feel you can't get recognition without having to pay someone money.

Please watch what you want, masturbate to whoever you want, drink whoever's bath water you want; just have the confidence to ask someone in real life to hang out, it might change you and make you a happier more open-to-love person if you do.

If you however do have lots of real life love in your live, then I take it back. It's just I see so many people speak the same way you do and theyre all lonely angry people ):

I'm quoting this so you feel validated :)

this shit is not for everyone, it requires a bit of thinking muscle.
 

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Just letting you know you matter bro. I would not reply to you if I did not care about what you had to say. You want me to be happy I wish you the same. We good man there is enough drama out there.

Okay it's just I was genuinely curious about what people get out of Vtubers, and you answered it; but it was buried in a mountain of defensiveness.

The only things that could have set you off was insinuating that you masturbate to it. But as you've answered some people do find sexual appeal in it; so your defensiveness is unwarranted.

So yes, I'm only 29, very young and I probably don't understand it. That said I have a hard time watching anime because of the high pitched screaming voices; they do a number on my tinnitus-ears.

Are you winning buizel buizel ?

Not every conversation has to be defined by someone 'winning' or 'losing' it. Thats unfortunately very common amongst online discussion nowadays.

Good discussion is when both parties come out 'winning' because they will both have more knowledge than when they began.
 
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Okay it's just I was genuinely curious about what people get out of Vtubers, and you answered it; but it was buried in a mountain of defensiveness.

The only things that could have set you off was insinuating that you masturbate to it. But as you've answered some people do find sexual appeal in it; so your defensiveness is unwarranted.

So yes, I'm only 29, very young and I probably don't understand it. That said I have a hard time watching anime because of the high pitched screaming voices; they do a number on my tinnitus-ears.



Not every conversation has to be defined by someone 'winning' or 'losing' it. Thats unfortunately very common amongst online discussion nowadays.

Good discussion is when both parties come out 'winning' because they will both have more knowledge than when they began.


Alright man, if you're genuinely curious as to why people watch these chicks then why aren't you questioning the existence of streamers in general? It literally just like watching your favorite streamer with an anime avatar but without the politics and more anime caricatures. This isn't that new. It just blew up recently. Like there has always been a parasocial relationship with streamers.

And I don't mean to be rude, are you like new to anime or something?
 
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Okay it's just I was genuinely curious about what people get out of Vtubers, and you answered it; but it was buried in a mountain of defensiveness.

The only things that could have set you off was insinuating that you masturbate to it. But as you've answered some people do find sexual appeal in it; so your defensiveness is unwarranted.

So yes, I'm only 29, very young and I probably don't understand it. That said I have a hard time watching anime because of the high pitched screaming voices; they do a number on my tinnitus-ears.



Not every conversation has to be defined by someone 'winning' or 'losing' it. Thats unfortunately very common amongst online discussion nowadays.

Good discussion is when both parties come out 'winning' because they will both have more knowledge than when they began.

We are humans man there is something sexual in most things we do unless you are deeply religious or something.

Asking you if you are winning is a Life question not an arguement winning type question, I don't fuck with politics or debates you can't win against me because I don't give a fuck about losing a thread shitting contest. Some of the shit I had to survive in my shoes I doubt many would still be standing so I really don't care if someone wants to judge me for an anime avatar or vtuber simping that ain't shit to me. Defensive yes, defensive is telling a motherfucker when he is corny and when he is making sense. You have to keep it real too many people are too fucking sensitive and want to ban all types of shit just because they can't let others be free. Judging every shit is not curiousity. You want to laugh have fun take a shot yeah shit is weird but I post most in here because I know what it is like to be depressed and need shit like this. I can take the abuse that others on here can't take so I make sure I am the one posting the vids. It helps people. This shit does some good you are not able to understand I get it. It is not about me winning but it is about me standing up and being a free motherfucker. My dick, my money, it should not matter to you what i do with them.

This is technology bro. It is a fascinating thing to me. I post in 2 threads SpaceX builds in Boca Chica and Vtubers

One gets Humans to Mars and the Moon the other is an answer to what the fuck are you going to do when you have to spend 6 months in space in a metal tube how do you keep from depression, anxiety, and all the mindfuck you will face. This tech is something that can deal with some of those issues.

Big brain shit, not some jacking off shit. When are people going to learn the internet shit is not real life?

Live and let live, the fuck you care what simps are into?
 
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Why can't anyone just answer why they like it?

For e.g

"I like watching vTubers because I like the anime aesthetic, the hyper nature of the talking and the games they play"

I mean I don't know, I don't like vTubers, but if someone asked me that's what I would say (if I believed those things).
 
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Lol you answered your own question. That is the atypical answer.

BTW I did answer your question.
 
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Why can't anyone just answer why they like it?

For e.g

"I like watching vTubers because I like the anime aesthetic, the hyper nature of the talking and the games they play"

I mean I don't know, I don't like vTubers, but if someone asked me that's what I would say (if I believed those things).

Too many shrimps.

Do you mean simps, like you; drsperate to race someone who doesn't even know you exist?

I don't understand, do you masturbate to these cartoon girls ?

are you DUM?

why did you not just start with the asking part instead of the insult part? It is a human thing man, the internet is full of bullshit

You asked an easy question 3 easy answers.

1) they are cuter than you are
2) they are funnier than you are
3) they are vastly more entertaining than you are

more than enough reason to Like.
 
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They know what they are doing... Yagoo is a PIMP idol dream my ass


Sex is all over Hololive

Calli is now pissed at Kiara for looking at Polka's upskirts if you are following the LORE.

Not sure when Calli decided to be an active wife but she has been on a roll lately chasing the chicken.
 
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It was weird seeing this in my subscription box:

She just spent 12 hours playing an old classic the dog deserves the love. She was streaming again a few minutes ago don't understand how she does it but her face gets around. It is kinda of funny how the Hololive Virus has been infecting every damn channel tho.

I am finding them in unexpected places. I am having trouble finding the hate on youtube for them anymore because you just have to put their face in your thumbnail and you gain a boost in clicks.

 
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she wins the 3D streams. I can't wait for her 2.0 version.

Sora did not have to break with the Seiso theme kinda bummed out

you learn so much for Kiara's streams about Austria


I love these clippers I'm laughing too much

wtf is Polka suppose to be anyway and how do you ^FAP to it? LOL
 
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Am I missing something? What is all of this?
Juts bad anime avatars ?
This is a great question. But you do understand explaining it is like a geek explaining how Dungeons and Dragons work. It is just a weird thing to explain.

I think the bad ones can be shitty anime ripoffs yeah because the artist who design them in the first place are very expensive to hire. Then you have to get a Live2D rigger who programs the digital version into the software. So the cheap way is to take a photo of your favorite anime girl and put her into that software yourself, but on the whole they are not anime at all. They are just streamers, like Ninja or Dr.Disrespect. They play games and talk to chat but not about politics or world events nothing stressful just chill funny shit or perverted shit if that is in her character lore. Most of Hololive is not kid friendly. They are trying to tame it down some but not easy to do.

Most of them suck at the games they are playing anyway so they need the foundation lore story to keep things going. some are good at games but that is not really why they stream.

I know this thread has anime themes but IMO it is a mistake to think of it that way, big difference between anime and idols. Just watch a few check Watame the sheep I just posted above she is playing Mario Kart with her Chat. She does not have to be good at the game, they just are there for the chatting and spending the time doing something outside of daily life.

They are really not very anime after you've watched for a bit. I've been trying to think about which of them screams anime to me and I have not been able to pin it down. If you come at it from ignorance and only know anime as a causal fan or it is something you hear of but never really watched then maybe it will look like anime but these virtual youtubers are not really anime. Think streamers first because that is what they really are then they perform comedy or music.

If you are coming from an anime fan background you would understand why they really are not very anime. They are something else. A manga is not anime but animes come from manga.

There are youbers who run major anime focused channels that at first had no idea what to make of vtubers they really don't relate that well to anime fans.
Anime fans are used to watching anime girls in episodes. Not interacting with an anime girl if you can understand the difference.

One is a story you watch the other is a like a role playing game but kinda real.

Like the Marvel Comic Book are really not the same thing as the MCU blockbuster movies. It is the culture that is the same but not every Marvel movie fan will understand what cosplay is and why anyone would dress up like Spiderman. The vibe is there but it is not the same experience just the born from the same things you enjoyed. Hololive vtubers are mostly shitposters, perverts, meme makers, people with high viral IQ. This is the crew you are dealing with when you watch vtubers they try to keep a story going while trying to entertain but because they are real people, they oversleep, get salty at losing games, have real people problems behind the avatar so there is a very complex dual layer going on. The Human and the Avatar.

A vtuber fan is following a few different stories, the talent and their real life, family life, sick parent, having to move, broken PC, or the deadliest issues an old boyfriend or China getting pissed because you said Taiwan on stream.

The Avatar the talent controls has a story like a comic book hero it has a background and a lore. Sometimes they follow it or it changes over time because the fanbase changes it. Example a Phoenix is called a Chicken, and a girl who wanted to be a Peacock princess is called a Turkey on day one by her fans.

Anime does not flow like that, it is not this fluid. None of the youtubers who stream can pull off these stories and dynamic changes.

The more you interact with it the more you can change the flow of the story you are watching. There are many ways one person in Chat can change a vtuber's path forever. There is no reset the fans and clippers will not allow the story to be reset. So the peacock princess is just going to have to live with her being a turkey.

I hope that helps in understanding why it is really a different type of thing so even the diehard anime fans kinda get lost and some don't understand the reason to watch.

Some of the talents are better at controlling who they are in character than others because they are better storytellers than Chat can come up with.


here is an quick example of what I mean by being different, you can't do this with a tv show or anime

and the chat of 20,000 or so had to sit through that and this is not part of Kiara's character because Kiara is a pervet and swears a lot.

the father was in the chat and sent a thank you super chat because the bird was the only thing that stops the baby from crying so her story changes a bit
she can go back to her normal self but the clips, reddit and wiki that tracks Kiara puts this as one of those many events that changes things.

After the baby thing Kiara started to censor her curse words a lot more and Kiara gained a lot more female fans.

Kiara can't do this for every parent in her chat but the fact she went off script to do it tells you about her as a person. She is no longer just an avatar most of her fans know about her life her mother and what happened to her in Japan in 2020. You know more about the talent until the character she is playing becomes transparent.

Every single one of them have moments like that, personal moments with family. Things like should you tell your mother what your job really is and what will she think of you?
 
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a fennec fox


Oh okay now I understand why calling Fubuki a Cat coming from her went to clippers. Fubuki and the cat thing she is never going to win that battle.

Polka's design is just wicked extreme and it got even more amazing with her new outfits. this is the issue with Hololive people can make jokes about fans jacking off to them but to me is makes not sense at all. No matter how hard they try to tease sex I am not sure who is FAPing to this. I am sure someone out there might have a furry fetish and it might work out.

The feeling I get from these girls is like a proud father watching his kid shine and become happier over time. I like the art as a artist I understand the art. I know about the vtuber that had a pornhub channel or something. But when I see what Hololive went for, the doggo, the sheep, the cats, the shark, the birds, the flat tako who is more like a nun than sexualized. Not sure if any of it works.

Coco has the personality to be raunchy but her Dragon character is way over the top it is sexualized comedy, adult humor to remind you this is not for kids.

So Polka trying to be sexy or showing too much is really funny.

Another weird thing is the JP bros they are the ones who really don't want the girls to become sexy. The who Seiso and Yabe meme.

The whole bottom left meme that spread from Kiara. The way Pekora's fans keep reminding a bunny girl that she is not sexy at all. And a sheep with huge boing boings is reminded every chat she can't ever be seen as sexy.

then you get into the gray areas. Baby Luna, and Lolicon Matsuri. I don't even know what that is about why they are pushing that vibe but the real talent behind them are nothing like that. They are trying to fit a theme in H-anime or JAV films not sure.


With Indonesia you have 2 Swords, well a sword and the other is a dagger but how are you suppose to fap to weapons?

Have you guys seen the meme about the lore, where a Dog and a Cat are the parents of a Squirrel?

Beyond the funny sex jokes, who is fapping to this really?

Unless you are already attracted to the IRL talent maybe. I have seen one I really like and wish she was doing JAV instead of wholesome vtuber.

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that matches her personality for sure
 
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lmao this is hilarious (imho)

 
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Gura is already too country for this game


Kiara really takes this role seriously I wonder if she is really gay

Wait she force a fan to change there name, I have been trying to find a way to change my name but I already went in with my main channel so I could not really change my name. They should make it easy to use a fake name for Chat.

At least I think that clip was edited and due had to go into his profile setting to change his KFP name. Kiara really gets away with bullying her fans she takes no change in the script when she does not want it to go there. That could have easily become an example of someone in the Chat changing her lore and she slapped him down even with a red superchat.

AmeMori is dead before it got too hot
Kiara must have a serious long term game plan for Calli

My favorite clip was when she flat out told her senior senpai she would Kill her if she tried to make a move on Calli.
Polka was too weak and shocked to push it forward and backed off fast.
 
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lmao this is hilarious (imho)


From the little I have seen of her as a vtuber her comedy transitioned perfectly

I feel bad for Nyanners she has 2 strikes against her to be counted on the official vtuber chart, he already had most of her subs before she became a vtuber in many ways she is on Senz level on how popular she was already. The second strike is she mostly streams on Twitch and only post clips on her youtube channel.

I feel bad because even though she became a vtuber got a really sweet avatar and already had a funny persona she is not getting recognized by places like this JP list

I think I would watch her more if she streamed on Youtube I really can't get use to the twitch platform at all. I am quicker to use Nico Nico than twitch
 
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Heh I thought Gura would settle into her old Cowgirl persona but she can't help herself she has too many memes on the brain. "Knock knock, FBI"
I still hope she plays the full game as a series.

these clippers just love Kiara


SMH
 
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Yep I got clipped shrimping not even sure how I started watching a clipper who tagged my superchat but I forgot to Switch to my Smiles account lol
might not even be the only clip.


Fubuki can't help but humm
 
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I think I would watch her more if she streamed on Youtube I really can't get use to the twitch platform at all. I am quicker to use Nico Nico than twitch
Yeah twitch sucks. I hate the whole interface and Youtube just works fine on every device.

Twitch is only useful to get free Amazon Prime stuff :messenger_tears_of_joy:

And most Japanese probably don't even care about Twitch.



Oh there’s a full upload
 
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cute doggerino doesn't want to go to bed
I think her fans should be worried more that was her 12 hours stream. I am still waiting for a translation clip for why she cried at the end.

She tends to have to longest streams. You know someone is doing something wrong when a Japanese manager asks you to take a day off.
I think Ame has the same problem. Even when she is not streaminb she spends 7 hours on minecraft projects off stream and gets frustrated to a point she won't quit a game if she gets stuck in a section that she dies at.