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Wachowskis working on Matrix 4, says John Wick director, Keanu "wouldn't say no" to it

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Wachowski's? No thank you. The only good movies they have done IMO are The Matrix and V for Vendetta. And with V for Vendetta, they are not the directors, and it was a graphic novel converted over to a movie, so I'm not sure what to credit them with that one. The Matrix had a ton of plagiarism accusations around it, which I bought at the time as the 2nd and 3rd movies were such ass compared to the first...but I'm not sure if any of that was actually true (I know the lawsuits didn't stick, for what it's worth).

Cloud Atlas says hello
And a lot of people are crazy for Speed Racer - Matrix, V , Cloud Atlas alone are god tier. You cant expect them to bang out classics after classics, the only one I think was truely shit was the Jupiter one. Sense8 was good.

I think a lot of hate comes from the fact that people hated the third matrix movie, and wanted more of the same.
 

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I’d be interested if they make Neo the villain, resurrected and warped into a weapon by the machines after his sacrifice in revolutions:
The humans use some kind of digital recreation of Trinity as bait for baaad Neo and put a team to try and redeem/save “the one” etc.
 

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Co-written by the author of Cloud Atlas :messenger_open_mouth:

The trilogy's concept artist and storyboard artist are back:


Darrow confirms it's a proper sequel in that Twitter thread.

I'm super excited to read this! With today's technology too! LET'S GO!!!
 

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I enjoyed matrix at the time. But by the third movie i was more than done with it. Matrix is not something i miss.
 

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So many questions trying to figure out how Neo and Trinity feature in a proper sequel. I'm also not a fan of creating a new conflict for characters who just went through an apocalypse. Still excited, as I generally enjoyed all the movies and the (overrated) Animatrix.
 
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fine with me, i liked the first ones, ill check it out. killing me that the movie came out 20 years ago.

the second was great but the third was a snoozefest. personally i felt like by the third entry they were squeezing blood from a stone but what is nostalgia if not doing exactly that?
 

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never really thought Carrie Anne Moss was a sex symbol but dang this photo she was a babe

 

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I'm just intrigued what sort of SFX The Matrix 4 will bring to the table.
It's been 20 years.
The original was a breakthrough in special effects.
The bar is high and being better then the rest but done before is not gonna cut it and they need to make people's jaw drop again
 

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I remember being a little kid watching The matrix like wtf is this. And then someone explained it to me and I thought it was too serious and silly as shit. Now when I see it the only part that really speaks is the steak eating scene.

I wish I was as cool as you.
 
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I was mildly interested until Cloud Atlas. Cloud Atlas is pure political propaganda. I really liked the movie at the time, but I was too innocent to notice. The life choices of the Wachowski brothers recently might have raised some doubts but this is the iceberg.

This movie is going to get the Current Year treatment, close to 100%. If you thought the trilogy went downhill, then prepare to have your memories ruined. It will be the Star Wars situation, so bad that the prequel trilogy is now looked upon fondly.

You can refer back to this post when it happens but I am not Nostradamus.
 

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Who are these 5 people?

What? How?


I am assuming you are American like movies not films, hate subtitles and def need to have everything spelled out and nice fluffy ending. So i am not blaming you for not being able to watch movies that transcend film into art.
You dont have to personally like a film to appreciate it, just like any work of art. You probably are amazed by the marketing factory that is Marvel churning out 5/10 dross to kids to sell plush toys, and Fast and Furious to notice such trashy films like Cloud Atlas or by Paul Thomas Anderson etc.. I mean they did not even do 1billion at the box office..must be trash!
 
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I was mildly interested until Cloud Atlas. Cloud Atlas is pure political propaganda. I really liked the movie at the time, but I was too innocent to notice. The life choices of the Wachowski brothers recently might have raised some doubts but this is the iceberg.

This movie is going to get the Current Year treatment, close to 100%. If you thought the trilogy went downhill, then prepare to have your memories ruined. It will be the Star Wars situation, so bad that the prequel trilogy is now looked upon fondly.

You can refer back to this post when it happens but I am not Nostradamus.

Yeah, the two biggest things I'll be on the lookout for with this movie are:

1. Is it focused like the original or is it bloated like the sequels?

2. Of course there's going to be "woke" messaging, but is it completely one-sided and forced to the point of nausea?


The Matrix is a perfect movie IMO and my favorite movie of all-time, so hopefully Matrix 4 adds value to the franchise. But my expectations are low.
 

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Yeah, the two biggest things I'll be on the lookout for with this movie are:

1. Is it focused like the original or is it bloated like the sequels?

2. Of course there's going to be "woke" messaging, but is it completely one-sided and forced to the point of nausea?


The Matrix is a perfect movie IMO and my favorite movie of all-time
, so hopefully Matrix 4 adds value to the franchise. But my expectations are low.

Animatrix says hi :)
 
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I am assuming you are American like movies not films,

You sound like Petra. Cute!
hate subtitles and def need to have everything spelled out and nice fluffy ending.
Nope.
So i am not blaming you for not being able to watch movies that transcend film into art.
You dont have to personally like a film to appreciate it, just like any work of art. You probably are amazed by the marketing factory that is Marvel churning out 5/10 dross to kids to sell plush toys, and Fast and Furious to notice such trashy films like Cloud Atlas or by Paul Thomas Anderson etc.. I mean they did not even do 1billion at the box office..must be trash!
Said film has like a 60 something on review sites. Robert is a shit critic honestly. (or was) Also no, just no. I don't like Marvel movies. Not everybody is going to share your opinion on films or movies. Don't be pretentious, I just can't think of many people that actually would call said movie a masterpiece.
 

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Cloud Atlas is a fucking master piece, then Matrix 1 another master piece, and Sense8 was better than most sci-fi tv dramas. That alone disqualifies them from hacks. A load of people also love Speed Racer. Matrix 2 had its moments as well but the bad taste of Matrix3 and Jupiter makes people hate them for some reason.

Speed Racer was great! you couldn't have made a better live action version with a source material like that imo
 
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generic comment: "[...]they should have stopped at the first one[...], [...] I can't believe they dare milking that movie released 20 years ago"

probably same people: "WTH we are not going to see another MCU movie with Spiderman ??!!!! it was only the 9th movie with 'Peter' in 16 years" [...] "Oh man I miss 'Cap' and 'Tony' so much already"




Anyway, can't wait. If it sucks, the original trilogy still exists. If it's great, awesome.
 
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There's alot of potential for the Matrix universe. Despite it's flaws I still enjoy the trilogy.
 

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I have no idea what they are going to do with the movie, it kind of gave birth to the deep dive virtual reality fantasy where you could master kung fu instantly and simply defy reality.

But today we have virtual reality and way too many superhero marvel movies. The matrix worked because of it's concept and because it was new. not sure if they story/lore and characters will hold up in the time of today.

Can Neo really carry this film?
 

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The trilogy got worse with each movie, but I think you still have a lot of good shit to work with there. I’d love an expanded rise of the machines story too, as the animatrix short could easily be fleshed our more. I’m cautiously optimistic for this
 

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The Matrix should have ended with Neo walking out of the phonebooth, not flying.

Anything after that ruins it for me.
 

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They weren't THAT bad. I think their badness is amplified by how disappointing they were. They didn't live up to the first one at all.

They are that bad because they change Matrix from philosophical interesting story into literally comic movie. When Neo flown off at the end of Matrix audience knew war was won, Neo cracked the code of machines and he is outside of their system and control.

What 2 and 3 did was to remove all of those aspects and retcon whole thing to point where whole thing started to fall on itself lore wise. Multiple zions in cycles, creator "who means well", one man physically going into machine city to stop machines etc.

What was simple and logical aka machines using living things as batteries and providing them virtual world as means to get more efficient batteries has become some sort of mythologic mambo jumbo and completely took away everything that was important about Matrix leaving only special effects and fight scenes.

The Matrix should have ended with Neo walking out of the phonebooth, not flying.
Anything after that ruins it for me.

Split on this. I think it would be better but the whole point of him flying out was to show viewer that he won the war with machines effectively as he can do whatever he wants in system.

Which naturally sequels retconed and made him again weak unmaking whole matrix1
 
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Split on this. I think it would be better but the whole point of him flying out was to show viewer that he won the war with machines effectively as he can do whatever he wants in system.

Which naturally sequels retconed and made him again weak unmaking whole matrix1

I get that part, for me this kind of movie is perfect for an ambiguous ending. Did he beat them or did he not, make up your own mind about it.

But luckily i can just forget about the other 2 movies most of the time and "somewhat make up my own ending".
I do the same with The Avengers, for me it ended with Thanos snapping and became a farmer, living peacefully in perfect balance :D
 
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The Wachowski did Speed Racer? I had no idea. Came across that film once on tv and liked it a lot. Need to rewatch it.
 

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1 was great.....2 was good until the zion shit...and 3 was just depressing

Hopefully it's a self contained story and not some set up for 4 more movies
 

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They are that bad because they change Matrix from philosophical interesting story into literally comic movie. When Neo flown off at the end of Matrix audience knew war was won, Neo cracked the code of machines and he is outside of their system and control.

What 2 and 3 did was to remove all of those aspects and retcon whole thing to point where whole thing started to fall on itself lore wise. Multiple zions in cycles, creator "who means well", one man physically going into machine city to stop machines etc.

What was simple and logical aka machines using living things as batteries and providing them virtual world as means to get more efficient batteries has become some sort of mythologic mambo jumbo and completely took away everything that was important about Matrix leaving only special effects and fight scenes.



Split on this. I think it would be better but the whole point of him flying out was to show viewer that he won the war with machines effectively as he can do whatever he wants in system.

Which naturally sequels retconed and made him again weak unmaking whole matrix1


I disgree. I don't think you have fully understood all the philosophical references in the Matrix. The first movie is great, yes, but its theme of "yo, what if our reality is just a dream" is actually nothing that special.

Matrix 2 and 3 get get much more interesting philosphically. All the Agent Smith dialogs (about the meaning of life and exitence), the metrovingian scene (about causation/determinism), the references to religion, and the occasional depiction of what humaness is - to name just a few - are very interesting and philosophical.

I never understood people saying "The Matrix should have ended after the first movie". To me, Matrix 2 and 3 really elevate the whole Matrix Trilogy to something very special.
 
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I disgree. I don't think you have fully understood all the philosophical references in the Matrix. The first movie is great, yes, but its theme of "yo, what if our reality is just a dream" is actually nothing that special.

Matrix 2 and 3 get get much more interesting philosphically. All the Agent Smith dialogs (about the meaning of life and exitence), the metrovingian scene (about causation/determinism), the references to religion, and the occasional depiction of what humaness is - to name just a few - are very interesting and philosophical.

I never understood people saying "The Matrix should have ended after the first movie". To me, Matrix 2 and 3 really elevate the whole Matrix Trilogy to something very special.

You take sophistry for deep philosophy.
Matrix 1 philosophy was rooted in logic being central to that movie.
It was simple and understandable with some message.

Why machines want people at all ?
Why specifically VR world ?

Those and so many other questions were logical to ask and had logical answers.

Matrix 2 and 3 philosophy was just pure sophistry because it was not rooted in logic.
Great example of that is creator scene. It is basically smelling his own farts not some deep philosophy.
He talked a lot but under that talk there wasn't anything there, there wasn't any truth or some logic.

This is why whole Matric 2 and 3 story is falling down on its head because it no longer follows logic but some philosophical farts. Like case of Machines allowing Zion to be reborn to be destroyed again and again and again.

Matrix 2 and 3 philosophy is exactly the same type of philosophy like in Prometheus.
It has grand worlds, complex narrative but there is nothing under it.
 
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Matrix 2 and 3 philosophy was just pure sophistry because it was not rooted in logic.
Great example of that is creator scene. It is basically smelling his own farts not some deep philosophy.
He talked a lot but under that talk there wasn't anything there, there wasn't any truth or some logic.

This is why whole Matric 2 and 3 story is falling down on its head because it no longer follows logic but some philosophical farts. Like case of Machines allowing Zion to be reborn to be destroyed again and again and again.

Matrix 2 and 3 philosophy is exactly the same type of philosophy like in Prometheus.
It has grand worlds, complex narrative but there is nothing under it.

So your whole argument why Matrix 2 and 3 fails philosophcially is that the creator scene is too complicated to understand?

How is that an argument for everything else in Matrix 2 and 3 being not logic and pseudo-philosphy?

And about Zion being allowed to be reborn. If you watched the Animatrix short movies, which tell many stories prior to what happend in the Triogy (something like prequels if you will), you would notice that one theme there was that eventhough mashines enslaved the human mind virtually, there was always - albeit not often - a resistence of the human mind to accepting the virtual world (even when they made the virtual world NOT a paradise). That in itself is an anomaly in the plan of the mashines, which they don't seem to have figured out how to control, that's why they probably allowed a certain resistence to always build (zion), which could have been a way of the mashines still trying to take control of such anomalies.

I dont agree with your argument about Prometheus, too. What is wrong about Promtheus or illogical ASIDE those 2 or 3 scenes that are a bit stupid (not running away in the same direction and touching the snake for example), which themselve are absolutely not relevant to everything else in the movie whatsoever.

When I read cirticisms of the Matrix or Prometheus, it often feels to me that these people just haven't understood those Films and are angry about it, which in turn leads them to not like them.
 
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So your whole argument why Matrix 2 and 3 fails philosophcially is that the creator scene is too complicated to understand?

It is not complicated at all. It is just too many words without any substance to them. There is nothing there.

And about Zion being allowed to be reborn. If you watched the Animatrix short movies, which tell many stories prior to what happend in the Triogy (something like prequels if you will), you would notice that one theme there was that eventhough mashines enslaved the human mind virtually, there was always - albeit not often - a resistence of the human mind to accepting the virtual world (even when they made the virtual world NOT a paradise). That in itself is an anomaly in the plan of the mashines, which they don't seem to have figured out how to control, that's why they probably allowed a certain resistence to always build (zion), which could have been a way of the mashines still trying to take control of such anomalies.

I know where it comes. The problem is that it is not logical. If there was part of population that would be fighting against VR world then machines would simple remove those people gradually instead of allowing them to bunch up. Literally the reason people win is because machines overestimated their ability to attack humans and that is not even counting that humans were basically single small city while machines controlled whole planet. This is why you have ending in which one man in reality goes to machines HQ and wins. Because he apparantly was jesus instead of hacker.


I dont agree with your argument about Prometheus, too. What is wrong about Promtheus or illogical ASIDE those 2 or 3 scenes?

2-3 things ? Are you joking ? On top of my head i have 15 if i really want to go into details then i would have to list them for minutes. At least there is some good excuse because Director was fucking idiot and changed original script and made huge edits that fucked it up. I've read original script and it made far more sense but it was not what was in movie.

Here is quick few things since you want them:

- why did Grey guy run away from something INTO black goo chamber (and not away from it since it is assumed it was gray goo that caused him to run away)
- why did Pilot Gray Guy instantly killed both of them when he just woke up like a minute ago from thousands of years of sleep. You would think that he would first try to figure what has happened.
- why did Pilot Gray Guy actually went into ship to kill that chick even if he didn't know she existed ?
- why did Gray Guy instantly proceeded to send ship toward earth with black goo despite the fact that it was them who made life possible on earth and clearly people resemble a lot gray guys which going by this movie logics would be intentional design. Remember ? Main premise of movie is that people were intentionally designed by gray guys and there was knowledge in dna which created in various cultures without contact with each other star map pointing to that planet.
- Speaking of which if that planet was important then why it was empty ? There was literally nothing there outside of crashed ship.
- What is the black goo to begin with ? It doesn't follow any logics. First it is used on gray guy to deatomize dude on proto earth then it has mutating ability
- Since black goo attacked chick then why it focused on her baby instead of herself. Scott might not know this but baby and mother are connected. Anything that happens to baby is felt by mother and vice versa.
- Baby monster literally breaks conservation of energy. It grows without eating rapidly.
- Black goo "impregnates" gray guy and gives birth to Alien !? Black goo litearlly logically doesn't make sense when you think about it.
- this is one of the most important and expensive voyages of humans and wutani corporation which is the most rich of them all decides to take bunch of amateurs instead of professionals. Moreover head of corporation itself hides on ship itself. HE PAID for it. Why did he need to hide on his own ship ?

That is just tip if the iceberg that lies here. I could go on and on.

The reason why original Alien was great movie was because it was designed and promoted by bunch of film-making students which basically did everything and Scott job was to ensure it looked good and had good cinematography. Everything you love about aliens came from those students. Watch "making of Alien".
 

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The Matrix 1 was profound and had something to say. The sequels, regardless of what you think of them, had nothing to say or add. There’s nothing that any prequel or sequel done today will have to make it substantial enough to be as important as the first original. So you could leave well enough alone, but this is Hollywood, so you keep going.
 
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It is not complicated at all. It is just too many words without any substance to them. There is nothing there.



I know where it comes. The problem is that it is not logical. If there was part of population that would be fighting against VR world then machines would simple remove those people gradually instead of allowing them to bunch up. Literally the reason people win is because machines overestimated their ability to attack humans and that is not even counting that humans were basically single small city while machines controlled whole planet. This is why you have ending in which one man in reality goes to machines HQ and wins. Because he apparantly was jesus instead of hacker.




2-3 things ? Are you joking ? On top of my head i have 15 if i really want to go into details then i would have to list them for minutes. At least there is some good excuse because Director was fucking idiot and changed original script and made huge edits that fucked it up. I've read original script and it made far more sense but it was not what was in movie.

Here is quick few things since you want them:

- why did Grey guy run away from something INTO black goo chamber (and not away from it since it is assumed it was gray goo that caused him to run away)
- why did Pilot Gray Guy instantly killed both of them when he just woke up like a minute ago from thousands of years of sleep. You would think that he would first try to figure what has happened.
- why did Pilot Gray Guy actually went into ship to kill that chick even if he didn't know she existed ?
- why did Gray Guy instantly proceeded to send ship toward earth with black goo despite the fact that it was them who made life possible on earth and clearly people resemble a lot gray guys which going by this movie logics would be intentional design. Remember ? Main premise of movie is that people were intentionally designed by gray guys and there was knowledge in dna which created in various cultures without contact with each other star map pointing to that planet.
- Speaking of which if that planet was important then why it was empty ? There was literally nothing there outside of crashed ship.
- What is the black goo to begin with ? It doesn't follow any logics. First it is used on gray guy to deatomize dude on proto earth then it has mutating ability
- Since black goo attacked chick then why it focused on her baby instead of herself. Scott might not know this but baby and mother are connected. Anything that happens to baby is felt by mother and vice versa.
- Baby monster literally breaks conservation of energy. It grows without eating rapidly.
- Black goo "impregnates" gray guy and gives birth to Alien !? Black goo litearlly logically doesn't make sense when you think about it.
- this is one of the most important and expensive voyages of humans and wutani corporation which is the most rich of them all decides to take bunch of amateurs instead of professionals. Moreover head of corporation itself hides on ship itself. HE PAID for it. Why did he need to hide on his own ship ?

That is just tip if the iceberg that lies here. I could go on and on.

The reason why original Alien was great movie was because it was designed and promoted by bunch of film-making students which basically did everything and Scott job was to ensure it looked good and had good cinematography. Everything you love about aliens came from those students. Watch "making of Alien".

See, most of these questions have been answered a long long time ago when Prometheus came out, for example. They are not a mistery anymore. All you are doing is proving me that you indeed don't have any profound knowlegde of what happend in those movies. So I suggest you read about it on the internet, because I am - sadly to say - too bored to do it myself. That's what always happens with the Prometheus haters.

I suggest you watch this:


In the comment section there is also explained what the black goo is. Read the comment by that guy named "fuckyou7073" for example.

Also, if you want to know who Neo really is in the Matrix (or what he is), then read this

 Neo is a machine, kinda. He is a human with enhanced genetics, enhanced implants, and a machine programmed mind (probably based on a "The One" template program). That's why, at the end of Revolutions, when his body is being taken away, he is shown as an orange glow. The orange glow is how the machines see each other, and therefore how they see Neo. It is also how Neo sees Smith inside Bane... he is seeing the machine program of Smith inside Bane's mind, and therefore it is an orange glow in the shape of the Smith.

But the orange glow isn't the only reason to believe Neo is a machine. Throughout the trilogy other hints are given, such as: "His neural kinetics are way above normal.", "He's a machine.", "Your five predecessors were by design based on a similar predication...", etc.

So if Neo is a machine, why was he created (as all machines must have a purpose)? He was created by the Oracle and the Architect to be The One. As the Architect explains to him: "Your life is the sum of a remainder of an unbalanced equation inherent to the programming of the Matrix... Your five predecessors were by design based on a similar predication, a contingent affirmation that was meant to create a profound attachment to the rest of your species, facilitating the function of The One... The function of The One is now to return to the Source, allowing a temporary dissemination of the code you carry, reinserting the prime program."

Translated, the Architect is explaining that Neo was designed to be a religious figure to the freed humans, thus causing them to put their faith (hope) in Neo and to rally around him ("...sum of a remainder..."). This helps to ensure that the freed humans are focused on Neo instead of war, and to keep them all together in one place, Zion (which was built by the machines for this purpose also). Neo is a form of control in the real world.

And just to make sure that Neo carries out his part of their plan, the machines programmed him with "... a contingent affirmation that was meant to create a profound attachment to the [humans]." This, along with his enhanced abilities and the "guidance" of the Oracle, keeps him on the intended course.

The Architect also states that "The function of The One is now to return to the Source, allowing a temporary dissemination of the code you carry, reinserting the prime program." This simply means that The One program in Neo's mind is the most important (prime) program in the Matrix, and that now that his mission (purpose) is complete, he must return to the source for deletion (all machines must have a purpose). The phrase "... temporary dissemination..." means that the The One program will be used again in the next version of the Matrix. This is also why Neo's choice of the left door will destroy the Matrix, as there can be only one The One in the Matrix at any time. By staying in the Matrix Neo is preventing it from being reloaded, as a reload will do nothing without another The One for the next version. (In programming terms he is the highest priority task, and he will not release the Matrix program's main semaphore.)

OK, so The One is a human with enhanced genetics, enhanced implants, and a machine programmed mind, and was created by the Oracle and the Architect to carry out a specific purpose (form of control in and out of the Matrix) in each iteration of the Matrix. Now let's see how The One fits in with the entire story of the trilogy.

As is explained, the Matrix was created by the Architect, at the end of the war with the humans, as a way to control the humans and use them as a power source (I know, hard to believe...). The first Matrix was "... quite naturally perfect, it was a work of art, flawless, sublime.", while the second Matrix was redesigned "... to more accurately reflect the varying grotesqueries of your nature." Basically Heaven and then Hell. In both cases, however, no conscious choice was given to the humans as to whether or not they wanted to believe in the reality of the Matrix. This caused the majority of humans to reject the Matrix and die ("... whole crops were lost.").

To solve this problem the Oracle was created, and realized correctly that the humans needed to be given a choice: "Thus, the answer was stumbled upon by another, an intuitive program, initially created to investigate certain aspects of the human psyche... she stumbled upon a solution whereby nearly 99.9% of all test subjects accepted the program, as long as they were given a choice, even if they were only aware of the choice at a near unconscious level." So by giving humans a choice, even at an unconscious level that only 0.1% are ever aware of, they accepted the Matrix.

Unfortunately for the machines, however, a majority of the 0.1% who were aware of the choice usually chose the real world over the Matrix. "While this answer functioned, it was obviously fundamentally flawed, thus creating the otherwise contradictory systemic anomaly, that if left unchecked might threaten the system itself. Ergo, those that refused the program, while a minority, if unchecked, would constitute an escalating probability of disaster." The machines therefore also needed a way to control the 0.1% of the humans who chose the real world over the Matrix, thus Zion and The One were created.

As was explained earlier, Zion was built by the machines to ensure that the freed humans would all gather in one place, and The One was created to be their religious figure, helping to distract them from renewed war with the machines. Both forms of control.

But even with Zion and The One, the unpredictability of choice ("systemic anomoly") still forced the machines to occasionally "reload" the Matrix. This always occurs when The One reaches the Source, which he can only do after attaining the level of power necessary for him to defeat the Merovingian, obtain the Keymaker, etc. The One program is then temporarily reinserted into the Source (machine mainframe), in preparation for the next iteration of the Matrix. In the process the machines gain the knowledge and experiences of The One, allowing them to better predict the future behavior of the humans, and thus reduce the systemic anomolies.

So that is the situation at the start of the sixth iteration of the choice-Matrix. Luckily for the humans, however, the Oracle does not want them to be enslaved in the Matrix any longer, or for the freed humans to be killed. She therefore decides to take a risk and use Neo to bring about a "revolution".

In M1 (The Matrix) she meets with The One, Neo, as she has done in the five previous iterations of the Matrix. Normally she simply helps guide The One to his meeting with the Architect. Except this time the Oracle gives Neo a special cookie, which he eats. The cookie isn't actually a cookie, though, it's an upgrade to Neo's program. Since the Oracle created the The One program, she can predict exactly what Neo will do in the future, specifically how he will destroy Smith (from the inside, with some copying from Neo to Smith occuring). She therefore includes in the program upgrade code that will give Smith the ability to replicate himself, and for Neo and Smith to see the future as she does.

In M2 (The Matrix Reloaded) Neo plays out his role as The One, meeting with the Architect. However, due to his love for Trinity he chooses the left door, preventing the Matrix from reloading. This was seen in advance by the Oracle, as she has the ability to predict Neo's behavior (as explained above) as well as human behavior in general (due to the nature of her program). She therefore told Trinity that she would fall in love with Neo (in M1), all the while knowing it would eventually cause Neo to choose the left door.

In M3 (The Matrix Revolutions) the Oracle's plan comes to fruition. While the machines begin their assualt on Zion (for the sixth time), Smith continues to replicate himself throughout the Matrix. Neo, on the otherhand, is stuck in the train station. Apparently, fulfilling his mission to meet with the Architect unlocks some section of his program that allows Neo to use his enhanced implants to once again become part of the machine collective (perhaps because of the Oracle's upgrade?). He is therefore able to sense and control other machines wirelessly. The first example of this is when he stops the sentinels at the end of M2. Since he is not quite ready to use his new abilities, however, his program gets stuck at the security checkpoint of the Matrix, the train station.





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In the train station Neo meets with Rama Kandra, his wife, and their daughter Sati. Rama and his wife are both machines from the real world who can jack into the Matrix, like all other machines, and live human lives. Sati is a program created by these two machines out of love, which Rama explains to Neo is not out of the grasp of the machines. They are on their way back into the Matrix to leave Sati with the Oracle for safe keeping, as any program without a purpose is deleted.

After being rescued from the train station by Trinity, Morpheus, and Seraph, Neo is helped out of the Matrix using the standard jack. While aboard the Hammer he has another vision of the future, this time of the three power lines leading from the Matrix power station to 01, the machine city (he is able to see the power lines due to his newfound connection to the machine collective). He therefore takes the Logos, along with Trinity, and leaves for 01. Along the way he confronts the stowaway Bane (who has the Smith program inside of him), and is blinded by him. Although blind, Neo is still able to see other machines (orange glow), including the Smith program inside Bane, which he uses to defeat Bane. He also uses his power to control other machines to detonate the bombs fired at the Logos by the 01 defenses.

Meanwhile Smith is replicating out of control in the Matrix, and eventually confronts the Oracle after taking over Seraph and Sati. They have a brief conversation in which he calls her "Mom", referring to the fact that she helped to create him (along with the Architect) as well as Neo (part of his program now). The Oracle then tells Smith to "Do what you came here to do.", so he takes over her as well. The newly formed Smith then stands up and laughs hysterically, foreshadowing the events at the end of the movie.

Eventually the Logos crashes in 01, but not before Neo gets a top-down view of the orange glowing city with his newfound machine-vision (notice the fractal patterns). Unfortunately Trinity is killed in the crash, and explains to Neo that both of them have been living on borrowed time. Neo since he was ressurected by Trinity, and Trinity since she was ressurected by Neo. Both are meant to die and Trinity is simply happy for the oportunity this time to tell Neo how she feels about him. (But shame on the brothers for killing off Trinity in such a lame way. Couldn't she have at least died trying to save the ship, not just letting it crash!)

Neo then leaves the Logos and enters the machine building into which it crashed (the building is seen in the same orange glowing machine-vision). He is then confronted by the Deus Ex Machina, who knows that Neo is the only one who can stop Smith from destroying the Matrix, but still shows hatred toward Neo (due to the fact that he is mostly human). After a show of force, the Deus Ex Machina agrees to peace with the humans in exchange for Neo's promise to destroy Smith. This causes the sentinels to halt their attack on the Zion temple, the last holdout of the remaining humans (the dock and city have already been destroyed).

The machines then jack Neo into the Matrix, since he has not yet masterred the ability to do so wirelessly (this theme of Neo having to learn to use his new abilities runs throughout the trilogy). Neo then confronts Smith, who says he has seen the future, and that he (the one particular Smith) is the one that defeats Neo. The other Smiths (all of the other people in the Matrix have now been taken over by him) therefore only watch as the fight begins.

After a brutal battle Neo is near defeat, but continues to fight. When asked why he does so, Neo responds "Because I choose to.", echoing the theme in M2 that "Everything begins with choice." (the only way humans achieve true freedom). But even though he delivers a stunning punch to Smith which sends him through the ground, Neo is eventually defeated. Before Smith takes him over he pauses, however, realizing that he has seen this very moment in his visions, and he already knows what he is going to say. "Everything that has a beginning has an end..." he mutters confusedly. This causes Neo to realize that the Oracle still exists somewhere inside of Smith, and that she is partially able to control his thoughts. Taking his cue from the Oracle, Neo freely gives himself to Smith.

Thus Neo is defeated, and Smith's original purpose, to defeat The One (which he is never really expected to achieve, which leads to his bad temperment) is accomplished. Smith therefore no longer has a purpose and must be deleted. But since programs marked for deletion must return to the source, how is Smith to be deleted? Simple, the machines send the command through Neo, into Smith, using a burst of energy. This causes all of the Smith clones, and the original Smith, to be deleted, leaving the original inhabitants of the bodies he has taken over (this is a basic function of the agent programs, that they leave their hosts as they found them, with death being the only exception).

This then completes another revolution in the Matrix cycle, as The One has reached the Source and has reinserted the prime program (Neo's program, his knowledge and experiences). The Matrix is then reloaded back to it's initial state, the late 20th century.

The Oracle then meets with Sati, Seraph, and the Architect in a park outside the city as the sun rises over it. The Architect tells her that she was playing a "very risky game", and she asks him if he will honor the promise of peace. He says that he will, since he is not human (meaning humans do not keep their promises, an insult). This means that those people who unconsciously become aware of the Matrix and choose to leave will be freed, and those living in Zion will not be killed. The war between man and machine is over, or at least suspended.

Looking upon the sunrise the Oracle asks Sati if that was her doing, and the girl responds that she did it for Neo (made the sun rise). Apparently Neo's experience with love, which was uploaded from him to the Source, caused the machines to show pity on Sati and give her a purpose instead of deleting her. She is now in control of the sun. Sati also asks the Oracle if they will ever see Neo again, and the Oracle replies that they might, indicating that the The One program will be used again in the future, as it had been for the previous six iterations of the Matrix. M3 therefore ends where M1 began, except that now the humans who become aware of the Matrix will be freed (a decent compromise if you ask me).
 
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See, most of these questions have been answered a long long time ago when Prometheus came out, for example.

I suggest you watch this:

Are you fucking with me ? Literally none of the questions i asked you are answered here.

Why Engineers wanted to destroy earth ? "emmm... because destruction and creation ! because there is sequel in making, why do you need answer ! Best Sci-fi is without answers !"

Not only that. But this is basically fanboying. Like case of assuming everything David said was to explain Gray dudes actions. "because we can" Nope dude. There were engineers who were making that stuff for some purpose.
Engineers making humans on their own image and then to destroy them doesn't make any sense.

I've read actual original script to Prometheus and writers there properly explained a lot of things, It was Scott retarded edits into that script that made it shit because Scrott just had to give Alien his retarded views on god.