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Warner Bros Montreal (ArkhamOrigins) making 2 DC AAA games (Suicide Squad, Superman?)
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family_guy
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I think he's at his best when he's saving people. The games need more of that than the fighting. When it comes to fights he has plenty of enemies who can challenge him just like he does in the comics. They just need to make sure they aren't throwing street thugs at you.
neogaffer1
Banned
naw m8
batman eternal as a video game would be insane. also likely very bad because that arc doesn't really lend itself to a video game well. but still insane.
There was a ton of Superman mentions and Easter eggs in Arkham Knight. Maybe they want to capitalize on the exposure that will happen with Dawn of Justice and Suicide Squad next year? I doubt Suicide Squad considering what happens in the Arkham series. I mean Knight even had the Lex Luthor voice-mail, the cameo, all the billboards etc. Definitely some cross world building going on there.
The current arc of Batman & Robin Eternal would work well. Flashbacks of Dick and Bats taking on Scarecrow and modern missions of Grayson, Red Hood, Red Robin, Bluebird, etc. (Plus Midnighter could pop in and say hello.)
keltickennedy
Member
I can't see them making a new Superman game since Rocksteady didn't leave them any of the groundwork for them to build from. Though, I can see them doing a Suicide Squad game after having the dual combat mechanic and more unique character abilities introduced in Arkham Knight with Red Hood and Harley.
Maintenance
Member
Seems like they nerfed Flash a lot.
Seven Force
Banned
Have you read Superman: Secret Identity? I don't even like Superman all that much, but I thought it was a fantastic read. It sounds like it might be up your alley.
GiantBombGamer
Member
Give me a super-hero game with some version of Shadow of Mordor's Nemesis system and I'll be a happy, happy person.
Arkham Origins is actually the best one.
Well you're right there. The best supes stories are the ones that involve him not being superman
Red Son being my favorite. He has his charm but it doesn't interest me if he's not with someone else
Like GA wouldn't interest me at all unless he's dicking around with flash
keltickennedy
Member
There needs to be a new Punisher game where you can work your way through a mob hierarchy by interrogating thugs and lieutenants to get to the kingpins. #INMYDREAMS
TheSecondSpitter
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paragonpro
Banned
But wb montreal didnt make arkham knight....
CrichtonKicks
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Origins was quite a while ago- I seriously doubt that Warner Montreal has been waiting for a Rocksteady hand off. Given all of the hints I expect that Suicide Squad has likely been in full production for two years now and will release in the second half of 2016.
LegendofDragoonLives
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This translates into 3 hours for the next podcast. Anything less will be a disappointment Greg.
keltickennedy
Member
One of the best stories. Mechanics, not so much.
Never said they are waiting on them. For example I'm sure there was a point where they were working on Origins and Knight at the same time. My point is that WB Montreal has yet to make their own game from scratch. And that if there is a Suicide Squad game more likely than not it will share a bunch of mechanics that were introduced in Arkham Knight.
LumpOfCole
Member
There are only two ways I can see a Superman game working.
1) Superman is stuck in the Phantom Zone and the whole thing is basically a superpowered version of Shadow of Mordor; villains and villainous races everywhere with the nemesis system.
2) Superman has all his powers taken away by a Red Sun and you slowly do things to make the sun appear normally over the course of the game to give you back your abilities.
1) Superman is stuck in the Phantom Zone and the whole thing is basically a superpowered version of Shadow of Mordor; villains and villainous races everywhere with the nemesis system.
2) Superman has all his powers taken away by a Red Sun and you slowly do things to make the sun appear normally over the course of the game to give you back your abilities.
LegendofDragoonLives
Member
Man, I get bored of how overpowered this man is. zzzz
But why have all those mentions and possible world building and Superman/Lex Luthor/LuthorCorp easter eggs in Knight if they'd make a Suicide Squad game that would just disregard the Arkhamverse altogether? I mean have you been following the game play of the Arkham games or stories? How will they utilize Joker, Harley, Killer Croc, Deadshot after 3 games utilizing many of these characters? Obviously they'd want to capitalize on the movie, but I don't know. Who knows though, Superman is probably one of the hardest superheroes to make a game for. How would he necessarily tie in as well. Superman Returns was a bust in terms of being a game etc.
CrichtonKicks
Member
I'm not sure that I actually want either one of these games but these are probably the two most reasonable ideas I've read of what an actual shippable Superman game could end up being. Especially the Mordor idea given the Warner connection.
The second idea is kind of interesting where I can see the end of the game is this almost Journey-like moment where you regain full flight and really just let loose. But it doesn't position things easily for a potential follow-up.
This sound like a pretty cool idea. Maybe WB can use Red Hood instead of Punisher (because thats not possible lol) and make a game like that.
Create a Superman game where you experience battles in Superman's life in reverse order.
These are good ideas.
flaxknuckles
Member
Whatever they do I better get to play in Metropolis. I don't want a Superman game where I'm stuck in an alternate dimension or alien world the whole time. I mean, it would be cool but do regular Supes first.
DeathoftheEndless
Crashing this plane... with no survivors!
I think Superman is just too difficult to make into a game. The transitions between flight and ground combat and outdoor/indoor locations would be too awkward. And then his powers need to be balanced.
Obliterator
Member
Ahhhh, good now we are getting some more news / rumors on what coming up on WB's slate. Given how excellent the last year has been for them it makes sense for them to start ramping up development some more.
Really excited to see a growing AAA publisher in the space. Its a great thing for the industry.
Also yeah Suicide Squad and Superman makes an awful lot of sense.
Really excited to see a growing AAA publisher in the space. Its a great thing for the industry.
Also yeah Suicide Squad and Superman makes an awful lot of sense.
Yeah, The Punisher can be a incredible game. I loved the PS2 one.
Shame that Marvel is the one that holds that IP.
It's pretty close, mechanics wise. Storywise its easily the best one. Nothing from Rocksteady came close.
I wanted them to countinue the Warner Vault thing, though. Gauntlet was pretty fun and a sucess, from what i can see.
flaxknuckles
Member
I'm really glad some of ya'll aren't game developers. No imagination or will to push through problems at all.
MrRudiMentary
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The Suicide Squad game will likely use the gun controls of the Arkham Origins multiplayer right? Ehhh.
Some Nobody
Junior Member
There's a list of comics a mile long that show how cool Supes can be. I'm not even a Superman fan and I can rattle off five, easy. (Superman: Secret Origins, Superman and the Legion, The Curse of Superman, Superman for All Seasons, Up Up and Away.). Don't write them off because of one crap film.
OT: Superman with lessened powers would be dull, guys.
keltickennedy
Member
I play all the Arkham Games religiously. While I dug the easter eggs in the game, I never thought of them as anything more than little nods to enrich the game world. Giving players a sense that things were bigger than just Gotham.
I can see how some people might see that as them setting up for the next game. For example the secret room in AA with the Arkham City plans, and the Scarecrows ship in AC.
I totally feel like a Superman game could be done well. I just think that some things fans would be looking for would have to be condensed. For one, the scale of the world. A huge metropolis would be awesome to fly around in, but then how lifeless would it feel on the ground level. I guess an important thing would be to take Superman's character and abilities down to some key pillars. Similar how RS did it with Batman with traversal, investigation, predator and combat. Would it be a metropolis based Superman or a more worldly Superman?
^this should just be a new thread. lol
Finale Fireworker
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This page is literally my all-time favorite Superman page. This is MY Superman. I'm so glad you posted this.
Whenever people ask why I like Superman even though I don't like 99% of his comics, I show them this page.
Shake Appeal
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Excuse you, WB Montreal made the most-Batman Batman game.
Suicide Squad has supposedly been in some form of development since Origins so I would hope they have something to show for it soon.
Also as much as everyone wants the second game to be Superman isn't it more likely to be Origins 2? Rocksteady said they're done with Batman games but I doubt that means WB is done with Batman games.
Also as much as everyone wants the second game to be Superman isn't it more likely to be Origins 2? Rocksteady said they're done with Batman games but I doubt that means WB is done with Batman games.
Arkham Origins and Blackgate straight up used post-credit stingers to build up to the Suicide Squad for something in-universe. That's going beyond just being cool easter eggs, the final note both of those games end on is that Waller is building up to a thing. The whole thing feels a lot more like deliberate world building then just random easter eggs like the Crazy Quilt laundromats in Knight- for both the Squad and Supes.
Stiler
Member
They need to make a good Superman game and stop trying to shoehorn it into some "gamey" game (IE flying through rings...) or making it super-dark and like "Batman; Arkham" games.
Let Superman BE Superman. Have a huge open world, allow you a sandbox to play in, with quests and things to find and discover with branchign storylines (think of the Witcher).
Do not "restrict" him, let him be fully capable of doing what Superman does.
Let Superman BE Superman. Have a huge open world, allow you a sandbox to play in, with quests and things to find and discover with branchign storylines (think of the Witcher).
Do not "restrict" him, let him be fully capable of doing what Superman does.
Shake Appeal
Member
Fingers crossed. I'd love to see what WB Montreal can do with a pure Batman game given a full dev cycle and budget.
Combat Wombat
Banned
I'm super excited for what WB has in store. It will be refreshing to see a DC video game that isn't just another Batman title. Superman deserves another shot at a great game and I hope this leads to other DC projects like Flash or Green Lantern if they're successful.
My man. Pak's run is a great read and I recommend it to all Superman fans.
My man. Pak's run is a great read and I recommend it to all Superman fans.
The Lamonster
Member
No way these games aren't awesome, if they're using the Arkham engine.
Exactly this. The roster and template creates itself with a superhero game. It's a wonder more games haven't copied it.
Except Superman is still so OP that "doing what Superman does" creates a shit-ton of gameplay problems to solve.
Like Green Lantern, the use of his powers rely a ton on creativity. The second you put any kind of limit (which are necessary for a feasible game), it becomes disingenuous. Batman works in that framework, but Superman doesn't.
Shin Johnpv
Member
The Mechanics were great. The detective mode stuff was awesome, and there was a greater variety of enemies than in Knight. Hell nothing in Origins comes even close to the terrible train wreck of game mechanics that is the Batmobile in Knight.
keltickennedy
Member
The shock gloves totally ruined all the great variety in combat and the tether gun was OP in the predator levels. I also didn't like the increased rate of needing to counter and also the re-skinned gadgets like the glue grenade. I did like the new detective stuff and how they expanded upon it in Knight.
While I will agree that it was overused....I think that the batmobile mechanics were amazing in Knight.
DarkLordMalik
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Since Suicide Squad game has been in development for a while, are they going to use Unreal Engine 3.5 (Arkham Knight) or Unreal Engine 4? It should be interesting considering how the former had a disastrous PC performance.
GringoSuave89
Banned
Not necessarily. Red Hood in AK and Deathstroke in Origins shows that guns and other combat systems work in their engine.
Honestly, even if it played like their Origins multiplayer, I'd be happy. I loved that broken ass, abandoned multiplayer. So much fun when you have good teams.