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Watch Dogs Legions Upscaled 4k on XSX

Allnamestakenlol said:
Gross. But still, that's a 2080 ti. I thought your post said 3000 series?
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I didnt mention the 3000 series, but there are also vids of 3000 cards struggling with this game. Point is the 2080ti is considerably more powerful than both next gen consoles, yet its is struggling to hit 30fps at 1440p with RT.
 
y'AlL cOnSoLe GaMeRs ReAdY fOr 4K/120fPs?

I hope this isn't a sign of things to come. I'm not blaming the consoles either - they are both super capable. It just seems like every gen there has to be some new graphical effect(s) being pushed at the cost of a decent framerate and a stable resolution. No matter how much power devs are given they find a way to cripple it. It also means games end up being way more demanding on PC than they should be.
 
LeftThumbstick said:
No, they actually didn't.
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They actually did...
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So you mean to tell me Microsoft and Sony were lying when they said native 4K/30frames would be standard in 9th gen? Color me shocked.
 
sircaw said:
remember people, and this is for both sides of the consoles, make sure you check out reviews first before you blow your money on the game.

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Review: Watch Dogs Legion - The Dullest Ubisoft Open-Worlder Yet

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LOL.
Review tagline: "The Dullest Ubisoft Open-Worlder Yet"
First "Pro" listed in the review summary: "London is great to explore and looks good"

So which one is it? My advice is: don't listen to this dinosaur "journalists" as they have no clue. The game is great if you can ignore all the social justice propaganda bullshit.
 
Stuart360 said:
There is a vid in this thread i belive, showing the 2080ti at around 25fps at 1440p/30 with RT on
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I play on 2080Ti in 1440p (there's a glitch if you play at 4k and go "Team" menu that makes the game unplayable). With every setting turned to max, I get anywhere from 40 to 70FPS. Feel okay to play on GSync TV.

Edit: sorry for double post.
 
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jigglet said:
No surprise. I don't understand why people are expecting these consoles to perform miracles. The XBSX is on par with the 2080 right? That struggles to run pretty much 90% of games at 4k60. Say consoles are 10-20-30% more optimised due to their closed nature, that's still miles from what is needed.

I swear people have had their heads in the sand for so long about this. IMO if you want optimal performance out of these next gen consoles 1440p is the sweet spot...just as it is on PC.
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Yep. 1440p / high frame rate is the perfect res for this Gen. That is what I'm running on my new 10700K/3080 build. It's glorious.
 
BluRayHiDef said:
This game admittedly looks much better on PC when playing it directly rather than watching recorded footage of it on YouTube (duh!). However, it's still ridiculous that even a Ryzen 3950X combined with an RTX 3090 and 64GBs of DDR4 can't run this game in 4K with maximum settings (without ray tracing) at sixty frames per second; the frame rate ranges from the mid forties to mid fifties most of the time, occasionally hitting 58 to 60 frames per second.
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The geometry looks to be so much more complex and dense compared to previous titles in the series. In any case, 4K, when you have good reconstruction techniques that fool the eyes, would be an utter waste of resources.
 
GaviotaGrande said:
LOL.
Review tagline: "The Dullest Ubisoft Open-Worlder Yet"
First "Pro" listed in the review summary: "London is great to explore and looks good"

So which one is it? My advice is: don't listen to this dinosaur "journalists" as they have no clue. The game is great if you can ignore all the social justice propaganda bullshit.
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Make sure you read the entire review

There's simply no beating around the bush: the ability to assume the role of every single NPC making up post-Brexit London is a colossal disappointment.
 
GaviotaGrande said:
LOL.
Review tagline: "The Dullest Ubisoft Open-Worlder Yet"
First "Pro" listed in the review summary: "London is great to explore and looks good"

So which one is it? My advice is: don't listen to this dinosaur "journalists" as they have no clue. The game is great if you can ignore all the social justice propaganda bullshit.
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"As such, it all ends up feeling like one huge let-down. Watch Dogs Legion fails to provide a meaningful reason for actively switching between characters on the fly and always being on the lookout for new recruits. Anything one Operative can do, another could do just as well. When a game that so desperately wants you to constantly change your protagonist and playstyle can be comfortably beaten without engaging with the mechanic at all, there's something up. The "play as anyone" concept will continue to be one with potential then because Ubisoft hasn't realised it."

The game sounds like it's designed around the sjw propaganda.
 
Another proof that RT is just a waste of resources.
I mean Watch Dogs 2 ran on PS4 Pro at 1800p?
And Legion apart of reflections doesnt really look that much better.
"Thanks to" RT, on next gen consoles we will often get games that look more like from Pro/oneX gen, just with more accurate reflextions....
 
Azurro said:
Arrogant and stupid. It has excellent tech, otherwise it wouldn't look so good.
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Show me what it has then sir. I'm more than qualified to verify your assessment. 100% of you that tout the game having superior next-gen graphics can't name a single thing that makes it stand out. But in the FS2020 forum, we named several tech leading features that make that game look completely next-gen.

TELL me the tech milestones, not the screenshots, or back off and accept you do like the art direction (like you did with every last PS4 game last generation).
 
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Magik85 said:
Another proof that RT is just a waste of resources.
I mean Watch Dogs 2 ran on PS4 Pro at 1800p?
And Legion apart of reflections doesnt really look that much better.
"Thanks to" RT, on next gen consoles we will often get games that look more like from Pro/oneX gen, just with more accurate reflextions....
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You should wait for the Spiderman MM impressions here about RT reflections to see if people think they are a waste of resources. If these guys on here tout it being an incredible milestone then I would take it to the bank that RT is worth it You won't get the truth with a 3rd party game.
 
BigLee74 said:
Dynsmic 4k doesn't bother me personally, and the game does look quite impressive.

After having the X1X for the past 3 years, I find 4k not all its cracked up to be. I play on a 55 inch TV, and sit 6 feet away. I genuinely struggle to tell a difference between native 4k, and anything from 1440 up.

Having said all that, despite liking the original WD, WD2 bored me senseless, so this is a hard pass for me anyway.
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Yes, HDR and OLED are a lot more impressive than 4K.

Just rewatched Demon's Souls trailer #2 on an OLED C9, it looks gorgeous at 1080p too.
 
Skifi28 said:
Pretty much as expected. This'll likely be the deal for a good percentage if not most games going forward, and it's fine for 500 dollar boxes. You don't need native 4k for a clear image.
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$2000+ PC boxes don't run the game much better though according to PC performance thread.
 
Are people expecting the PS5 version to be any better? By all metrics it should perform worse. I think 1440p is fine for a raytraced image. Personally, I was never into RT and won't enable it in games. Baking lighting with better resolution or performance sounds good enough for me.
 
CAB_Life said:
Are people expecting the PS5 version to be any better? By all metrics it should perform worse. I think 1440p is fine for a raytraced image. Personally, I was never into RT and won't enable it in games. Baking lighting with better resolution or performance sounds good enough for me.
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How can you say that without knowing the bottleneck that caused Xbox to drop to 1440P?
 
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Upscaled on both. For a next-gen game with an engine that's not optimized to take advantage of the new architectures of both this is pretty good. That RayTracing looks fire.
 
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Mega_Deth said:
So you mean to tell me Microsoft and Sony were lying when they said native 4K/30frames would be standard in 9th gen? Color me shocked.
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They will, this is just halo infinite all over again. Just because a developer is blatantly incompetent doesn't mean the hardware is not capable of delivering. Next year we'll see how every game runs at 4K 30 fps.
 
VFXVeteran said:
Show me what it has then sir. I'm more than qualified to verify your assessment. 100% of you that tout the game having superior next-gen graphics can't name a single thing that makes it stand out. But in the FS2020 forum, we named several tech leading features that make that game look completely next-gen.

TELL me the tech milestones, not the screenshots, or back off and accept you do like the art direction (like you did with every last PS4 game last generation).
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The thing is that you are obsessed with little bullet points in the steam description rather than the overall look of the image.

As I stated before, I'm not in graphics, but I can mention things that impress me: the game looks to be making use of some sort of more advanced global illumination, the quality and amount of particles is very impressive, there are a lot of animations and details to the environment, the cloth physics, the higher resolution texture quality is there, the volumetric fog and how it interacts with light, much higher quality of assets including polygon counts, physics driven animation in the environment, such as rubble, etc.

But regardless, this is why people don't like you, you give out some stupid opinion based on the implementation of some feature that doesn't change the quality of the image but takes a high amount of computation time, when the actual game still looks average.

Think about it, you presume of some CV and of your presumed intellect (that attempt to get buddy buddy with nxgamer was pathetic, btw) and yet you care more about some sliders than what actually matters, the final image. And then you discount the work of extremely talented people with idiotic remarks like "oh, it's just art direction, the game". How much of an immature PC manchild do you have to be to be so ignorant?
 
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Like I said in the AC thread, this is just a joke.
What resolution are this games running on the Pro systems?
 
Pixel counting one image silly. This game resolution not set in stone till people play it. Digital foundry should wait for more collaborative information here, a random forum post one image and looks lower than 4k not evidence.
 
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VFXVeteran said:
Show me what it has then sir. I'm more than qualified to verify your assessment. 100% of you that tout the game having superior next-gen graphics can't name a single thing that makes it stand out. But in the FS2020 forum, we named several tech leading features that make that game look completely next-gen.

TELL me the tech milestones, not the screenshots, or back off and accept you do like the art direction (like you did with every last PS4 game last generation).
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Watch out. N#1 amrchair developer from the FS2020 university is in the house!
 
CAB_Life said:
Are people expecting the PS5 version to be any better? By all metrics it should perform worse. I think 1440p is fine for a raytraced image. Personally, I was never into RT and won't enable it in games. Baking lighting with better resolution or performance sounds good enough for me.
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It'll be exactly the same. ALL of them probably will be - or as near as damn it.

All of this is a massive waste of time because the two consoles are evenly matched, and all the people who refuse to accept this are doing is causing themselves and others unnecessary stress 👍
 
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