Polygonal_Sprite
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You should tell that to the PC guys struggling to get a smooth, consistent framerate with RT enabled at 1080p with a 3000 series GPU lol...
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Watch Dogs Legions Upscaled 4k on XSX
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You should tell that to the PC guys struggling to get a smooth, consistent framerate with RT enabled at 1080p with a 3000 series GPU lol...
M1chl
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If he has base config then, easily:
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This pc he brags about playing games in 4k. How can I break the news to him?
> AMD® Radeon™ RX 5300 3GB GDDR6 (3GB framebuffer is like Windows 10 amount of VRAM occupied, well it's 1GB...anyway)
Is like iGPU level GPU.
timmyp53
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I'm honestly waiting for Quantum computing myself.
Nah but in all seriousness. This is insignificant tbh. We are in an era of image reconstruction for pc and console.
01011001
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like I said, everyone is hypocritical from time to time, and with all the fucking console warring going on on here it is really easy to dismiss something as just some fanboy trying to push some agenda, and I did that too apparently with your post. it sucks, but it's hard to see through the fog some times so I get why you would have had the same impression.
all I can do is being as consistent with my views as possible, and I think I am pretty consistent.
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Bonfires Down
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Yoboman
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Report on your profile? You must have me confused with someone like TBiddy
Trogdor1123
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Still looks great to me.
Are the older watch dog games worth trying?
Are the older watch dog games worth trying?
sircaw
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remember people, and this is for both sides of the consoles, make sure you check out reviews first before you blow your money on the game.
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Review: Watch Dogs Legion - The Dullest Ubisoft Open-Worlder Yet
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01011001
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Spider-Man is dynamic as far as I know
Exactly. He also didn't say native.
Ppl are really, really hung up on labels, specs.
Dat Watch Dogs PS5 thread tho....lol. Life comes at you fast.
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01011001
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we don't know, all we know is that Ubisoft has a really loose definition of the term "Full 4K"
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01011001
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nah 4K for TVs is a must nowadays IMO, it is worth it to get rid of the screendoor effect alone... on bigger screens at 1080p you can literally freaking count the pixels even at normal viewing distances.
4K gives you a really clean looking image even if it is not native, we reached a pixel density that makes scaling less obvious now IMO.
Krisprolls
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Legion runs pretty terrible on latest Nvidia GPUs too, it's just poorly optimized and goes too far on RT. Doesn't mean anything for the rest of the games. Multiple games will be reconstructed 4K/60 from 1800p+ on PS5 and XSX.
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Stuart360
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I think most games will be in the 1620p-4k range. WatchDogs is just super demanding, even for high end PC's.
01011001
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yeah and that.
this game really is like Ubisoft's raytracing tech demo. it is impressive but it comes at a cost (and even its predecessors didn't run that well on PCs at the time... like getting WD2 up to 60fps was a real challenge back when it released, so that engine is demanding)
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FrankWza
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f that. Uhd with Dolby vision is crazy. I’ve watched Dunkirk like 5 times. That’s not an 5 time rewatch movie.
Krisprolls
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Xbox fans making fun of "upscaled 4K" on PS5 AC:V, then the news came that WD:Legion on XSX is reconstructed 4K too, but from 1440p (according to DF / Alex), which is kinda low res. Then the thread went strangely quiet and some people disappeared.
Jokes aside, it's perfectly normal both consoles run games at reconstructed 4K, native 4K would be a dumb use of power budget. 1440p is a bit low as a native res, but Legion itself seems poorly optimized, the game runs bad even on the best PC GPUs. Too much RT tanks the framerate fast.
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That is the 60fps mode I thought the 30fps mode was 4K 30fps.
timmyp53
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Yeah watching movies in HDR10+ in 4K is reason enough to get a new screen but then again I always get the best when it comes to home theater stuff. My friend literally watches stuff on a 720p laptop.
Chris_Rivera
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Unoptimized game. Not sure how they tanked performance from WD2 this bad. Without RT should be better, but given how the game is being reviewed, I’m not surprised at all.
01011001
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pretty sure both are dynamic just that one has RT and one doesn't. we also don't have a huge amount of examples for now, we saw exactly 3 games running with RT on a PS5 (Spider-Man, Godfall and Ratchet) and a few on Xbox (that one spaceship game... Bright Memory Infinite, that one shooter with the robots and now Watch Dogs), but most of them not with lot of info or good in-depth videos... mostly trailers and fast cut or highly choreographed gameplay.
it's hard to tell still how much impact RT will have on performance in the long run
especially since this is the first wave of games and developers will try to implement some performance saving tricks in later games I bet. one would be to make a seamless SSR and RT reflection blend that reduces strain for reflecting stuff that is already n screen space anyways.
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Dave_at_Home
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Oh please, weak compared to what? we all know Series X/PS5 are far, far more powerful than current generation consoles, which is what matters the most. Not to mention, if you look at Steam hardware statistics, PS5/Series X are more powerful than the vast majority of users have to begin with. Don't let that stop you from comparing $400/$500 consoles to just a GPU that costs over a grand, though.
Edit: Also, Ubisoft is not known for their optimization.
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Stuart360
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I just spent 5mins skimming over that thread, and i didnt really see many, or any actually, Xbox fans taking the piss out of PS5. Some of you really have a paranoia about Xbox fans.
Ironically there is much more console warz posts in this thread, compared to that thread.
Traxtech
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I wish I could be that guy watching 720p on shit laptop speakers. If I'm not watching it on my oled and my 3 way studio monitor setup it just feels wrong. I'm envious of people like that because I'd like to enjoy it regardless of what I'm viewing it on or hearing it on, guess I'm spoilt
Spider-Man: Miles Morales on PS5: dynamic 4K 60FPS, 30FPS ray tracing
Spider-Man: Miles Morales on PlayStation 5: Performance Mode = dynamic 4K 60FPS, Fidelity Mode = 4K 30FPS with ray tracing.
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01011001
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Spider-Man: Miles Morales on PS5: dynamic 4K 60FPS, 30FPS ray tracing
Spider-Man: Miles Morales on PlayStation 5: Performance Mode = dynamic 4K 60FPS, Fidelity Mode = 4K 30FPS with ray tracing.
well ok, I could swear I just read today that it was dynamic somewhere, but I mean, I expected it to be native or stay close to it.
Allnamestakenlol
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Where you see that? All the vids I've seen, max settings at real 4k, has the game running between 45-70. I haven't watched any at 1080p, but I find it hard to believe they'd struggle at that resolution.
FrankWza
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Yeah totally. I went to the movies last week so I could see tenet in imax for the experience. Each their own
Krisprolls
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Go to the Legion performance thread, you'll see for yourself. Nobody runs that at Native 4K / 70 lol, unless maybe with RT off.
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Captain Hero
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Some gamers like to be in the middle of the chaos specially when that chaos is all about stupid consoles war. I’ll say it again just like the other thread, at the end of the day no body gives a shit because the pic quality is already high and everyone will enjoy and everyone will have no idea if it’s Native 4K or DY4K so kindly have a nice day
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Neko Mimi Mode
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Why do people compare this game's resolution to that in AC Valhalla, when the whole point of what Alex said is how expensive RT is?
Tom Warren doesn't hit 60fps at 1440p on an RTX 3090
Tripolygon
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Let go of every idea of native 4K. Yes there will be native 4K games but we are moving from native rendering to temporal upsampling methods that can be indistinguishable from the real thing. Look at how PC gamers have taken to DLSS. Its time to move forward.
01011001
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to be fair, we don't know his rig.
maybe his card is held back by issues with other components. it could hit thermal limits or power limits due to a bad case or a bad power supply.
or maybe he is running a Zen 1000 series CPU lol
could also be that he built it himself and was dumb enough to stick that thing into an x8 slot lol (I MEAN... he works for The Verge after all lol, maybe he used their great tutorial to built his PC
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Krisprolls
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Comparisons will come soon enough, but I must say it was pretty funny seeing some fans trying to flex native 4k, only to get the news of the 1440p native res on their platform (so not even half the pixel count of native 4K). That was instant karma.
At some point comparison videos will pop and all this stupidity should stop. Those platforms are very similar and no amount of faerie dust will change that. Multiplatform will run and play the same on both, whatever fans want.
If you like Sony exclusives like apparently most people do, go PS5, and if you prefer cheap Gamepass and small AA games (and you don't have a PC), go XSX, but performance difference between both platforms will never be a factor, this era ended long ago. Both will play the multiplatform games the same and both pretty well, if only due to diminishing returns and very similar architectures.
As usual though, Sony exclusives should look a lot better than anything else, not only because of talent and budget, but because they have to run and optimize the game only on 1 platform (PS5), vs dozens for MS (XSX, XSS, any PC).
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Neko Mimi Mode
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to be fair, we don't know his rig.
maybe his card is held back by issues with other components. it could hit thermal limits or power limits due to a bad case or a bad power supply.
or maybe he is running a Zen 1000 series CPU lol
could also be that he built it himself and was dumb enough to stick that thing into an x8 slot lol (I MEAN... he works for The Verge after all lol, maybe he used their great tutorial to built his PC
We do know his rig though
I mean, ultimately, a 36tflop GPU being unable to hit 60fps at 1440p tells me the game is horribly unoptimised, that's what Alex meant when he said pigs aren't flying
Stuart360
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There is a vid in this thread i belive, showing the 2080ti at around 25fps at 1440p/30 with RT on
Proelite
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That's with DLSS on.
Krisprolls
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Several people stated that DLSS didn't change things much this time.
Aladin
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Unoptimised game ? Why compare it to spiderman MM? Watch Dogs looks to be having better graphics, has more interactive elements driving, stealth, complex AI, shooting and hand combat and what not.
Spider MM looks to be AA when compared to WatchDogs, Look at the simplistic boxy designs of exterior environment, Look at simplistic hollow interiors of buildings, Exclusively just flying and hand combating. Everything from Graphics & AI to mechanics, it is much simpler in these titles.
Spider MM looks to be AA when compared to WatchDogs, Look at the simplistic boxy designs of exterior environment, Look at simplistic hollow interiors of buildings, Exclusively just flying and hand combating. Everything from Graphics & AI to mechanics, it is much simpler in these titles.
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Yselacrey00
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I don't get it. Demon's souls looks ok, nothing extraordinary. The backgrounds are fixated and there aren't almost any characters on screen. There are like 2 characters at a time, why people are praising it so much? The fucking game is almost empty, it actually should look a lot better taking into account there's almost nothing going on. Ratchet on the hand does look impressive, looks way better than demon's souls.
Yselacrey00
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Lol this has nothing to do with next gen consoles capabilities. This game barely runs on pc with a 3090.Actually good..better than wasting resources on native 4k. I hope all games do it on both big consoles.
But is it 720p on series s then
Allnamestakenlol
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Gross. But still, that's a 2080 ti. I thought your post said 3000 series?