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What makes a perfect RPG?
- Thread starter Walter Matthau
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Iam Canadian
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Basically, all that matters to me is if the gameplay is good. Is the battle system entertaining enough to keep me interested through the dozens of hours I'll play this game? Are the puzzles well-designed and require actual thought? That's what I play RPGs for, so once that's in place, then we can talk about story and stuff.
Mithos Yggdrasill
Banned
Uhmm. Very difficult question.
I would say that the story is the most important factor, followed by the Soundtrack. I appreciate Tales of Symphonia, because it made me say wow many times. Mithos was really a great developed character.
With Baten Kaitos, the Soundtrack was on par with the story.
Graphics is a nice add, but it's not the main point. Golden Sun was a GBA game with a fantastic OST and great story: more then enough for me.
Again, more about the story, what make a story a great story is how much the characters are developed.
I would say that the story is the most important factor, followed by the Soundtrack. I appreciate Tales of Symphonia, because it made me say wow many times. Mithos was really a great developed character.
With Baten Kaitos, the Soundtrack was on par with the story.
Graphics is a nice add, but it's not the main point. Golden Sun was a GBA game with a fantastic OST and great story: more then enough for me.
Again, more about the story, what make a story a great story is how much the characters are developed.
Joei
Member
After reading some of these posts and having just completed Baten Kaitos, I'd have to say story is probably the biggest factor for me. It doesn't have to be the deepest or most suprising story, just something pretty engaging (which usually relies on other factors). I mentioned that I just completed BK frankly cause the story was pretty awful. Not only was it bad, it just didn't pull me in, probably because the characters were subpar. The combat and gameplay, however, were excellent. Graphically it was decent, nothing extraordinary, but by no means bad. Even though it had a great combat system and was aesthetically pleasing, it still made the game a chore to complete and I was ready to pull my hair out wishing to no end that the game would just finish at 40~50 hours in.
Now if you look at a game like Suikoden 3, one which, to me, has a fantastic story and great characters, but an average combat system and looks visually ok, I was 70+ hours into that game and still wanted more.
If I look at all the RPGs I've completed or that I feel are "great," they all have decent to great stories and great characters.
Now if you look at a game like Suikoden 3, one which, to me, has a fantastic story and great characters, but an average combat system and looks visually ok, I was 70+ hours into that game and still wanted more.
If I look at all the RPGs I've completed or that I feel are "great," they all have decent to great stories and great characters.
BioGenesis
Member
The only real answer is Tri-Ace
Currently playing Lord of the Rings: The Third Age on the X-Box.
Not backwards compatible, of course. My brother had it and I borrowed that from him and Harvest Moon for the GC from my niece. I'm so bored waiting for Etrian Odyssey to arrive that I busted it out.
Anyway, best RPG ever!!111! >_>
Pretty much just a Final Fantasy X clone that tries to coast by on the quality of the films, and indeed, shows cutscenes from the film early and often. And the characters are feel like cardboard cutouts of film characters, which is also really great. Maybe it gets better later on. Maybe.
Just a time sink waiting for some good stuff to come out - can't afford to pick up Nocturne OR DDS1 at the prices Amazon has.
Not backwards compatible, of course. My brother had it and I borrowed that from him and Harvest Moon for the GC from my niece. I'm so bored waiting for Etrian Odyssey to arrive that I busted it out.
Anyway, best RPG ever!!111! >_>
Pretty much just a Final Fantasy X clone that tries to coast by on the quality of the films, and indeed, shows cutscenes from the film early and often. And the characters are feel like cardboard cutouts of film characters, which is also really great. Maybe it gets better later on. Maybe.
Just a time sink waiting for some good stuff to come out - can't afford to pick up Nocturne OR DDS1 at the prices Amazon has.
polyh3dron
Banned
ex0du5 said:They did get together....the made Blue Dragon....it was far from perfect.
polyh3dron am fail
ex0du5 am fail at READING.
I said put the Chrono Trigger team again to make another RPG and don't let Artoon develop it.
For the less informed, dev house Artoon, the geniuses behind hits such as Blinx 1 & 2 developed Blue Dragon.
They are the ones to blame for the crappy frame rate and other problems with Blue Dragon.
icarus-daedelus said:
Not true. SMT II is a direct sequel to the first game and it also adds a lot of background to some of Nocturne's aspects. The first three Persona games have a lot to do with one another. Devil Summoner: Raidou Kuzunoha makes a lot of SMT I references towards the end.
The only truly independent games are Digital Devil Saga and Persona 3.
Bizarro Sun Yat-sen
Banned
no, a few people involved with CT made Blue Dragon. Most of the original CT team is still at Square Enix.
Death_Born
Banned
A perfect RPG should have
1) Good character development. You should identify with the characters, realistic or not.
2) Good script, which goes hand in hand with an interesting and not cliche plot.
3) Great music. This is relative, since some people may not like the music no matter what it is, but there is definitely a distinction between good music and bad, for example Final Fantasy or Baten Kaitos.
4) Be strategy-intensive, and easy to play in short intervals (see Fire Emblem)
5) Have great graphics (this is also relative, but it's really important)
I'm currently trudging my way through Etrian Odyssey, and it's insanely hard. Though it's interesting, it has some flaws.
1) Lack of character development or plot (yeah, I know, that's done on purpose and can be forgiven)
2) Monster recolors (suffering from FF syndrome)
3) Repetitive graphics (yeah, also forgivable since they look awesome)
4) No detailed description of skill points (annoying)
5) Sometimes, you can't even discover something unless you look at a guide (common in JRPGS)
1) Good character development. You should identify with the characters, realistic or not.
2) Good script, which goes hand in hand with an interesting and not cliche plot.
3) Great music. This is relative, since some people may not like the music no matter what it is, but there is definitely a distinction between good music and bad, for example Final Fantasy or Baten Kaitos.
4) Be strategy-intensive, and easy to play in short intervals (see Fire Emblem)
5) Have great graphics (this is also relative, but it's really important)
I'm currently trudging my way through Etrian Odyssey, and it's insanely hard. Though it's interesting, it has some flaws.
1) Lack of character development or plot (yeah, I know, that's done on purpose and can be forgiven)
2) Monster recolors (suffering from FF syndrome)
3) Repetitive graphics (yeah, also forgivable since they look awesome)
4) No detailed description of skill points (annoying)
5) Sometimes, you can't even discover something unless you look at a guide (common in JRPGS)
Flakster99
Member
Final Fantasy IV - perfection.
RurouniZel
Asks questions so Ezalc doesn't have to
Flakster99 said:
Fixed that for ya, obviously a typo.
Just kidding, IV is great too!
Bizarro Sun Yat-sen
Banned
Personally, although I can enjoy story/presentation-focused or system-focused RPGs, I prefer the "balanced" style as seen in the SNES FFs and Chrono Trigger.