Show is for kids and glosses over the cold harsh realities of life. OP wishes to ignore the cold harsh realities of life rather than deal with them. It seems to be a common thing among bronies I've met.
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What's wrong with wanting to live in a virtual world?
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Show is for kids and glosses over the cold harsh realities of life. OP wishes to ignore the cold harsh realities of life rather than deal with them. It seems to be a common thing among bronies I've met.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
There's an irony to your avatar...
Your underlying motivations, failings, and desires are no different in a virtual space than they are in a real one, once the novelty of what's around you dissipates. And it always will dissipate. You're still you, and you're still reacting to others, and the conceptual lie of "remaking yourself" or pretending that the things you can't handle don't exist is only superficial. Being in a simulated space to experience those things limits you, in practical terms and social ones.
That doesn't mean there isn't value in using things like that as a stepping stone, but you have to recognize when you've outgrown something. It's very, very easy for a virtual space to become a limiting factor without your realizing it.
That doesn't mean there isn't value in using things like that as a stepping stone, but you have to recognize when you've outgrown something. It's very, very easy for a virtual space to become a limiting factor without your realizing it.
The perverted penguin from Penguindrum? I can't actually remember much from that show other than one of the brothers corrupting the penguins, I just wanted a picture of a penguin.
LouisaFerre
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I like you. I enjoyed this thread. Thank you.
This thread.... just wow.
Truly makes you wonder how many people are out there in society, living this withdrawn, hermitic existence?
The comments that the OP have made are so ripe for analysis I don't even know where to begin. I mean the gender issues, the alienation, the homosexuality, the OP really is a psychologists wet dream. I just wish they even had the slightest notion of self-awareness so they could see how damaged they really were.
Truly makes you wonder how many people are out there in society, living this withdrawn, hermitic existence?
The comments that the OP have made are so ripe for analysis I don't even know where to begin. I mean the gender issues, the alienation, the homosexuality, the OP really is a psychologists wet dream. I just wish they even had the slightest notion of self-awareness so they could see how damaged they really were.
This is an awfully limited mindset rooted entirely in prejudices formed within the boundaries of the current system. Of course you've been raised within a capitalist regime that espouses all the positives of capitalism intrinsically as it works to mold you into a perfect consumer, so seeing these arguments regurgitated over and over again is quite unsurprising, but that also means I can address all of them.
Indeed, in a utopian vision of the future someone would have to be maintaining the robots and machines that keep things running. You can assume that there will be people volunteering to help, because helping with maintenance intrinsically benefits them, their families, their friends, and everyone else who depends on such machines to help them live.
This touches on the root of motivation, which you seem to believe CANNOT be intrinsic, but must instead be externally motivated. This isn't just false - this is straight up capitalist propaganda! The grand majority of the world's great scientists are all intrinsically motivated by a desire to better understand the world, and through that understanding, better the world itself. No scientist is in it for the money, which is no surprise when you consider that your funding as a scientist is extremely volatile and heavily dependent on how much you can game the system. It's the same thing with art - how many artists do you know who would say they are simply in it for the money?
The only thing money does is get people to perform work they would otherwise have absolutely no interest in simply so that they can survive. Who gets a degree in finance because they simply love finance? Who works a factory job because they love repeating the same drudgery 8+ hours a day? This is, of course, useful in a society pre-automation as you need SOMEONE to work those jobs, but once automation becomes en vogue and those jobs are taken away, what then?
Then you have to consider that your frame of reference for a non-capitalist society... are all still capitalist societies at their core, because they still use money. The only way for us to truly know what a non-capitalist society actually looks like is to transition to a world that completely eschews the use of money, and that means the entire planet must do so, not just a state or country or two at a time. Furthermore, the system itself must be built with an eye towards natural law (a.k.a. SCIENCE) rather than simple ideology. Communism and socialism are quite flawed in that they only work off of social ideologies rather than using the scientific method to help guide policies towards actually fixing many of our societal problems at their core.
You also make the assertion that true equality wouldn't work by couching it in a monetary argument that has no bearing on reality. The system itself can be altered to work in such a way that inflation is no longer an issue. For that matter, the money system itself should be getting phased out once we reach the point of a basic universal income. Furthermore, just look at all the problems that are correlated with inequality, and consider just how much crime and social unrest goes away when you take away the problem of money. Having large swathes of the population no longer having to live with the anxiety of not knowing whether or not they'll have a roof over their heads and food on the table the next day massively improves everyone's lives, period.
This is all tangential to the real issue at hand, mind you - the fact that our capitalist system is thrusting us headlong into actual global catastrophe. To wit:
1. The debt system creates such massive amounts of debt that no one can actually keep paying it off unless the global economy just keeps growing infinitely... and as we all know, nothing on planet Earth can grow infinitely. Economies all over WILL collapse inevitably as a part of the system itself.
2. Speaking of infinite growth, our capitalist paradigm requires us to consume ever-greater natural resources, resources that cause environmental havoc when consumed in great quantities. We must transition to a system that can survive with a steady-state economy as opposed to an infinite-growth one if we wish to survive as a species. No, that's not even hyperbole. We HAVE to do this.
3. Our technological reality is at odds with capitalism. As our technological capabilities grow, automation continues to take more and more jobs from the population. Technological unemployment is a part of our reality, and we have to recognize and work towards a future where that unemployment does not translate to negative effects on our society as a whole. It's paradoxical that our productivity increases, yet our lives as individuals suffer ever more simply because the system was not designed to account for it. Hell, you'd think planned obsolescene alone would have been enough to tell everyone 'this shit is fucked up', but apparently not.
Whether or not we SHOULD move away from a capitalist economy isn't even a question at this point. It's something we have to do as a species to continue coexisting on this tiny rock we call Earth. Failure to do so entails potentially catastrophic instability as our society strains at the seams to right itself as the system continues to suffer under the weight of its own malaise. One can only hope we collectively wake up soon enough to stop that constant spiral of madness from descending ever deeper.
Edit: I HIGHLY recommend watching the web series A Culture in Decline, as it helps greatly to illuminate these problems and just how many of them are intrinsic to the system itself.
dinosaur_hunter2
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That`s why I love this forum. OP and others being so open about their lives (it surely is not easy to talk about trans-sexuality, specially on the internet), some people actually caring about the way they respond to that... It`s truly amazing. I sincerely thank all of you who are being so open about yours lives so much that we can have this discussion.
I was bullied at school, many people used to told me that I wasn't good for anything and I started playing games because it was something I was really good at and no one could tell me otherwise. So I understand the desire to be in a virtual world, to escape mean and cruel people and pursue a happiness that couldn't be achieved in the real world.
But I do think we need to strike a balance between the real and the virtual world. If we want something to change, we have to do it ourselves. Mean and cruel people aren't just going to disappear and, as was said before, if people like us withdraw from the real world, things will just be worse.
I was bullied at school, many people used to told me that I wasn't good for anything and I started playing games because it was something I was really good at and no one could tell me otherwise. So I understand the desire to be in a virtual world, to escape mean and cruel people and pursue a happiness that couldn't be achieved in the real world.
But I do think we need to strike a balance between the real and the virtual world. If we want something to change, we have to do it ourselves. Mean and cruel people aren't just going to disappear and, as was said before, if people like us withdraw from the real world, things will just be worse.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Living in the database, database, wowowow
What's sad about doing something that makes you happier? heroin isn't sad. It will make so many people really happy.
And... what's unhealthy about it? Maybe if someone is just sitting down that's not so healthy. People need exercise. But people can get exercise while beeing on heroin, too. There's going to be all sorts of treadmills and ways like that to exercise while you are high.
but to be serious, no i don't think leaving into a virtual world is for the benefit of most individuals. (i am not talking out of a confort zone here, my life is bad/ruined)
You're completely and entirely wrong. Being uncomfortable is not only a perfectly fine thing to feel every once in a while, it's vital. If we never step outside of our comfort zone, we don't grow. Period. You can't have happiness without pain.
Precisely. Escapism or fantasy is part of a healthy range of outlooks, but if someone's endeavoring to turn escapism into their reality, it suggests a fundamental problem with identity or their acclimation to their surroundings. It is unhealthy.
Crash Station
Member
Well you could also love yourself and be a misanthrope.
I don't see what's so unhealthy about having zero social life. It's the point people keep bringing up in this discussion, but what about the people who do not desire (meaningful) relationships at all? I get that most people need these to function properly or whatever, but are people claiming that everyone does? Because of this notion that we're "social animals"?
Obviously, I'm in the vast minority in this mindset. Of course, being an anomaly in several ways among my peers is part of what made me a recluse to begin with. I don't see this inherent "value" in relationships, and it's not even value that I could attain because I am incapable of building these relationships in the first place, nor do I have any desire to. Substituting this world with VR sounds harmless to me, outside of real world needs such as eating or going to work.
Obviously, I'm in the vast minority in this mindset. Of course, being an anomaly in several ways among my peers is part of what made me a recluse to begin with. I don't see this inherent "value" in relationships, and it's not even value that I could attain because I am incapable of building these relationships in the first place, nor do I have any desire to. Substituting this world with VR sounds harmless to me, outside of real world needs such as eating or going to work.
The OP wants a hugbox in the truest sense of the term, which doesn't really exist now and I doubt will exist in the future. People will always have different feelings and opinions even if they have a personality similar to your own.
As long as you can recognize that not all people will think like you and don't judge others for being more social, you're fine.
hardcastlemccormick
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"Happy" as a concept is very difficult to pin down. It appears to be based on a value system where certain emotions are judged as "good" or "bad" and then separated into things to be embraced or avoided.
The problem with what the OP suggests is that the value system used to separate these emotions is rudimentary and simplistic. The evil specter of "emotional pain" is really the core of this value system, and it's a simplification. Complex and tumultuous emotions like loss, grief, anger, misery; these are all emotions that on a certain philosophical level don't have to be "bad." You can either see it through the lens of meditation (every thought simply *is* without judgment) or you can see it as purpose driven.
My emotions make me fight for a better life. If I'm angry or unhappy, that means I need to change something about my life. Escaping the issue through VR isn't satisfying - it's shadows on the wall in Plato's Cave. Ultimately I would be a slave to my own puppets - a slave to the emotions I never bothered to try to listen to or control. A better use of those emotions is to act on them, to see them for what they are: guiding beacons in this walk through life, and a tool for motivation.
I prefer technology that embraces reality and enhances it, makes us think about it more clearly. The world is an incredibly complex place, one that our minds cannot entirely cope with - technology can help us do so. Instead of making pretend worlds our minds can understand (simplified puppet shows), embrace the world as it is with no value system, and understand its complexity reaches far beyond our imagination. The world is more than anything we could possibly create.
The problem with what the OP suggests is that the value system used to separate these emotions is rudimentary and simplistic. The evil specter of "emotional pain" is really the core of this value system, and it's a simplification. Complex and tumultuous emotions like loss, grief, anger, misery; these are all emotions that on a certain philosophical level don't have to be "bad." You can either see it through the lens of meditation (every thought simply *is* without judgment) or you can see it as purpose driven.
My emotions make me fight for a better life. If I'm angry or unhappy, that means I need to change something about my life. Escaping the issue through VR isn't satisfying - it's shadows on the wall in Plato's Cave. Ultimately I would be a slave to my own puppets - a slave to the emotions I never bothered to try to listen to or control. A better use of those emotions is to act on them, to see them for what they are: guiding beacons in this walk through life, and a tool for motivation.
I prefer technology that embraces reality and enhances it, makes us think about it more clearly. The world is an incredibly complex place, one that our minds cannot entirely cope with - technology can help us do so. Instead of making pretend worlds our minds can understand (simplified puppet shows), embrace the world as it is with no value system, and understand its complexity reaches far beyond our imagination. The world is more than anything we could possibly create.
DoktorEvil
Banned
I like reading stories like this.
I don't entirely relate to understanding transexuality mainly because I don't fully understand it, but I know a lot about being bullied and being picked on for nondescript reasons and I am very much a person who fights for anti bullying. Hiding into VR and escaping into more games is letting your bullies win. One of the more uncomfortable aspects of life is confrontation, but we need to do it. We need it to grow as a person, to mature, to experience trial and error.
OP has me worried that she'll be the kind of person who'll hide in a headset whenever life throws her a wrench. That's not how humanity and life works and it's no different from using drugs or alcohol as a vice.
I would be, if it weren't for the judgments from the opposite end relating to those who do not desire to be social.
Read through this thread because I thought it was some master-level trolling but I'm not so sure. OP, unless you create a VR world by yourself and moderate the people within it you are not going to get what you want. I'm not even sure you'd be content with that, either. Nothing will be different if the internet is any indication. GAF itself is a heavily moderated place and you are already showing yourself to be uncomfortable with opinions here. Chances are you will experience "pain" in VR just as you do now.
Every current theoretical model of immortalizing your consciousness always involves making a copy of a consciousness. The original consciousness (e.g. me or you) would still die out and never experience anything after that point. There are currently no truly non-destructive processes of freezing your brain/thawing it out so if you're hoping for a breakthrough in the far future you won't be able to take advantage of it. In all likelihood, everyone reading this is going to die eventually and there's nothing that can be done about it in our life time.
Honestly speaking it doesn't matter what your opinions on real life are. You can continue to hold your hands over your ears and ignore all the "bad things" in the hopes of remaining in your comfort zone and be blindly optimistic about VR solving all your problems. Unless you are 100% satisfied with how your life is at the moment it is far more practical to do your best at thriving in our current environment. You don't have to necessarily agree with it but complaining about it isn't going to help you at all. No one that is self-made in life did it by being comfortable. Advancements in technology aren't being done by people who choose to be comfortable. Too much comfort leads to complacency and complacency leads to stagnation.
It's one thing to look forward to VR and all the fun it will provide. Do not delude yourself into thinking it will be more than what you can already do in your games/MMO's. You're setting yourself up for disappointment.
Every current theoretical model of immortalizing your consciousness always involves making a copy of a consciousness. The original consciousness (e.g. me or you) would still die out and never experience anything after that point. There are currently no truly non-destructive processes of freezing your brain/thawing it out so if you're hoping for a breakthrough in the far future you won't be able to take advantage of it. In all likelihood, everyone reading this is going to die eventually and there's nothing that can be done about it in our life time.
Honestly speaking it doesn't matter what your opinions on real life are. You can continue to hold your hands over your ears and ignore all the "bad things" in the hopes of remaining in your comfort zone and be blindly optimistic about VR solving all your problems. Unless you are 100% satisfied with how your life is at the moment it is far more practical to do your best at thriving in our current environment. You don't have to necessarily agree with it but complaining about it isn't going to help you at all. No one that is self-made in life did it by being comfortable. Advancements in technology aren't being done by people who choose to be comfortable. Too much comfort leads to complacency and complacency leads to stagnation.
It's one thing to look forward to VR and all the fun it will provide. Do not delude yourself into thinking it will be more than what you can already do in your games/MMO's. You're setting yourself up for disappointment.
Despite being interested in VR for years and hoping it really goes somewhere in the future, I don't think I could ever see myself wanting to permanently stay there. I suppose with the "mask" of a VR avatar, I would be able to express myself better than ever before, but at best VR would occupy the time that I spend playing video games or on Neogaf now.
Exactly. You can love yourself while still understanding that not everyone is going to share that assessment of you.
I love myself but recognize that the grand majority of people would call me a sick fuck if they knew what I was into. That doesn't mean that I'm somehow secretly unhappy and lacking in confidence, it just means that I have a healthy grasp of how others perceive me.
hardcastlemccormick
Banned
Not seeing the value in friendships or relationships is hard to relate to for most people. I consider myself an introvert, but a mental landscape filled with nothing but my own thoughts is a truly barren and horrible nightmare.
You'll find a lot of people in the world who struggled with other people in their lives. To some extent I did as well. But people work through the problems. I listened, I observed, I self reflected, even when it seemed impossible. I strive to improve to communicate because if there's any meaning to life, it exists between two or more people who are existing on the same wavelength. There's nothing like that feeling in the world. I live for it.
viewtiful_dru
Member
Hey, it worked for Raiden.
If you think NeoGAF is "too mean" then i question how often you have interacted with the outside world and seen how cruel the world can be. GAF is a very well moderated forum that some argue has become even too hard/strict, comparing it to current day SA and even Tumblr. By all comparisons, NeoGAF is a very safe place. So i cannot agree with you on the idea that the forum is mean or rude. If you think this forum is rude and judgmental then i cannot imagine you sitting in a 100+ class University room full of people you do not know or quite frankly any social setting. You come across as very sheltered and cut off from the world. Not just because of this topic but because of prior posts you have written.
As for your argument, all the things such as "being cute", dancing, meeting new people, you can already do that. Its called real life. What is wrong with it? Well reading your post and your prior posts do show a resentment and even fear towards people.
I hope i havent offended you, because you do seem extremely over sensitive, and i wonder whether you are a real account or a joke one. My amateur psychological analysis that you should just take curl up and throw in the trash can is that: you seem to want to live a normal life, but you need some kind of a shield that a virtual reality can provide, hence why you want it.
As for your argument, all the things such as "being cute", dancing, meeting new people, you can already do that. Its called real life. What is wrong with it? Well reading your post and your prior posts do show a resentment and even fear towards people.
I hope i havent offended you, because you do seem extremely over sensitive, and i wonder whether you are a real account or a joke one. My amateur psychological analysis that you should just take curl up and throw in the trash can is that: you seem to want to live a normal life, but you need some kind of a shield that a virtual reality can provide, hence why you want it.
Come on now, tell us more.
PINEAPPLES. I'll leave it at that.
Please go to a therapist. I'm not trying to be mean. This isn't a "holy shit you're insane, seek help" post. I genuinely think it would be beneficial for you to try going to a therapist.
I don't think anything is wrong with virtual worlds :l. Hell, I would argue that it would be really interesting if VRMMO's really took off some day; could be like.....visiting other planets for us who can't travel to space, if that makes any kind of sense XD!
I don't know, I see no problem with escapism, as if we can all be honest, the world isn't the most amazing place out there :l. There are problems everywhere and we all have to just deal with them to live our lives. While this is completely normal, as well, that is how the world order works, making us grow as human beings and become better people through concurring these problems
. Still, it would be nice to take a brake from that for only a few seconds by 'escaping' into other forms of media (movies, books, tv, games, ect).
That is why I love video games so much, not just because they are fun but also to visit different 'planets' in a way
! Visiting the Mushroom Kingdom and help Mario defeat Bowser, dashing through Green Hill Zone and collecting rings, exploring huge fantasy worlds in a variety of games, and visiting the underwater world of Rapture or the city in the sky that is Columbia; all these locations are so unique and different from our world around us, you just can't help but want to explore them !
Coming back to the concept of living in a virtual world, I think if pulled of well enough, it can be a wonder place. Being able to love entirely different lives then our real world ones, being able to fully interacting with these new 'planets' and finding new ways to interact with other people :'). Still though, as many anime has proven (SAO, Log Horrizon, ect) even though they aren't real and we really can't use them to describe this, their is a danger of these worlds. We could be trapped in them or even worse. Granted, this is based off of what I saw in the SAO anime, so I'm probley dead wrong XD!
Anyway, I think this would be interesting to explore and I love the idea.....but who knows where it would lead :l.
I don't know, I see no problem with escapism, as if we can all be honest, the world isn't the most amazing place out there :l. There are problems everywhere and we all have to just deal with them to live our lives. While this is completely normal, as well, that is how the world order works, making us grow as human beings and become better people through concurring these problems
. Still, it would be nice to take a brake from that for only a few seconds by 'escaping' into other forms of media (movies, books, tv, games, ect).That is why I love video games so much, not just because they are fun but also to visit different 'planets' in a way
! Visiting the Mushroom Kingdom and help Mario defeat Bowser, dashing through Green Hill Zone and collecting rings, exploring huge fantasy worlds in a variety of games, and visiting the underwater world of Rapture or the city in the sky that is Columbia; all these locations are so unique and different from our world around us, you just can't help but want to explore them !Coming back to the concept of living in a virtual world, I think if pulled of well enough, it can be a wonder place
. Being able to love entirely different lives then our real world ones, being able to fully interacting with these new 'planets' and finding new ways to interact with other people :'). Still though, as many anime has proven (SAO, Log Horrizon, ect) even though they aren't real and we really can't use them to describe this, their is a danger of these worlds. We could be trapped in them or even worse. Granted, this is based off of what I saw in the SAO anime, so I'm probley dead wrong XD! Anyway, I think this would be interesting to explore and I love the idea.....but who knows where it would lead :l.
Wow, this is just appallingly insensitive.
The "being cute" part alone was already explained in this thread - current technology is simply inadequate for the task, and out of the reach of anyone who isn't mind-bogglingly wealthy besides. This is also besides the point that your local circumstances differ greatly depending on where you live. There are some parts of the world where simply being outed as trans would be enough to get you lynched - yes, even today. There's a reason why we still have LGBT 'safe havens' and other such accomodations being made at conventions and the like.
I would agree that 'living in the database' is probably not the healthiest thing to do, but failing to recognize the failings of our reality and the fact that, quite frankly, a lot of these problems are things we cannot change on an individual level is equally bad. This is a big part of why escapism is so damn popular.
Your cold analysis is rude and plain useless to this thread. You are neither helping the OP nor giving any insights regarding virtual reality and the discussion around it.
Calling someone else damaged is elitistic. The fact you couldn't even try and symhasize or give a constructive criticism makes you more "damaged" than the OP, in my opinion.
dinosaur_hunter2
Member
Excellent post. I think the key here is having no value system.
Thank you. I also fight for anti-bullying because I was bullied as a kid. Even after reaching adulthood, I was still bullied by people because I liked games and other small things. And by my own family. Instead of making me hide in a corner (I'm not saying OP is doing that), it made me fight harder. I used to be afraid of confrontation. Not anymore.
Even your typing style is like trying to imitate an anime character
Well of course it is. Everything is appallingly, unimaginably, mind numbingly, extraordinary rude, insensitive and a blatant attack here. Merely suggesting that real life exists out there is the worst thing you can possibly do. You just threw that out there, despite not explaining at all why it is insensitive
Ill excuse my self.
I would like to live somewhere where it's perpetual Fall/Winter and just stay wrapped in a blanket all day playing games. I guess that's sort of like living in a virtual world...but i'm aware of needing to eat and go to the bathroom and occasionally exercising.
And yes, I would enjoy it for years upon years and not get bored/depressed...it's like literally how I'm wired. Hell is other people for me.
And yes, I would enjoy it for years upon years and not get bored/depressed...it's like literally how I'm wired. Hell is other people for me.
Crash Station
Member
Provided you have the ability to obtain basic life necessities, there's really nothing wrong with living a life of solitude if that's what makes you happy.
Speaking personally, I thought my reason for not seeking out meaningful relationships came from crippling self-esteem issues and social anxiety. After working retail for a few years and putting myself in plenty of social situations, turns out I'm just not a fan of people and it takes a VERY specific personality type for me to want to get to know someone. Fortunately, I have found friends with said personality types that I currently live with, but we all still respect each others alone time.
Some can't wrap their head around the concept of introverts, despite them being as common as extroverts. In pretty much any social situation, there's going to be people there that would much rather be home.
Which is fine, but there definitely are those out there that would never be able to exist on the same wavelength as other people. Again, it's good to be mindful of others circumstances, and there are quite a few mental disorders out there that make meaningful relationships impossible, at least as far as taking into account the happiness of the individual goes.
As Robin Williams once said, the worst thing in life is to end up with people that make you feel alone.
They were pointing out that if you're not content with one situation (reality), it doesn't make sense to assume that you'd be happier in a simplified abstraction of it, especially when you haven't experienced it as you're describing. From what I'm reading, what they said does make sense.
Iva Demilcol
Member
So, members of a virtual community that fully enjoy the "benefits" of its existence are against Virtual Reality so others cannot do what people in this thread already do?
I may not be able to see it but the benefits of VR will improve our lives rather than destroying it. Engineers will be able to construct airplanes inside a classroom, someone studying medicine will be able to practice for a surgery using just a headset, in history class we will go inside ancient buildings or we may witness important events that happened hundreds of years ago, people working in a nuclear plant may be able to do dangerous tasks without risking their lives... And when we are done with all that we will go home and enter a lobby where people will talk about movies, sports, videogames and whatnot.
It's sad that I may not be able to see any of that.
I may not be able to see it but the benefits of VR will improve our lives rather than destroying it. Engineers will be able to construct airplanes inside a classroom, someone studying medicine will be able to practice for a surgery using just a headset, in history class we will go inside ancient buildings or we may witness important events that happened hundreds of years ago, people working in a nuclear plant may be able to do dangerous tasks without risking their lives... And when we are done with all that we will go home and enter a lobby where people will talk about movies, sports, videogames and whatnot.
It's sad that I may not be able to see any of that.
This isn't what OP has been talking about. You're describing supplementing reality with complex, accurate simulations to enrich our imaginations. We DO have that, and I haven't seen anyone dismissing that.
don't forget the porn. the horror
For those thinking the OP might be trolling... if that's the case, she (or he, i'm not sure anymore) been doing this for a while : http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=113250181&postcount=133
Im not one to usually look at other members post history, but I was too curious with this particular one.
Im not one to usually look at other members post history, but I was too curious with this particular one.
VR is going to go through the same reactionary ratings/censorship growing pains that comics, movies and games went through.
And people who can't handle reality will love it. It will be their heroin. It will ruin some lives.
Everyone else will just wanna be superman before bed.
And people who can't handle reality will love it. It will be their heroin. It will ruin some lives.
Everyone else will just wanna be superman before bed.
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