The guys over at 24C3 just demoed a Wii hack that is set to provide native Wii
homebrew in the near future (not running in GC mode, and with full access to all the Wii hardware!)
They were able to find encryption and decryption keys by doing full memory
dumps at runtime over a custom serial interface. Using these keys, they were
able to create a Wii game that ran their own code (their demo happened to show live sensor/Wiimote information, amongst a few other things).
Question marks in thread titles generally piss me off. I'm quite a tolerant surfer as well.SnakeswithLasers said:Having a title with "Rumor" and "for real" in the title is confusing.
Useful for media streaming/playback.Borys said:Seems legit enough.
What for, though?
theultimo said:This is how the DC died. Soon the Wii will have the same problems :\
Yeah, between the Wii and 360 being pirate-able nearly since release and the PS3 still not being cracked in any way this generation once again shows how piracy is hugely detrimental to console success.AltogetherAndrews said:Ah yes, piracy. That's precisely what the Wii and its incredible software sales needs.
PantherLotus said:DOES THIS REQUIRE A MODCHIP
PantherLotus said:DOES THIS REQUIRE A MODCHIP
They didn't even brick modded Wiis that they clearly could detect (SMG protection), so I strongly doubt it.PantherLotus said:also, wiiconnect24 + hackage = insta-brick, right?
Threi said:sweet now i can download some piracy
SnakeswithLasers said:The ban-hammer cometh.
From what I've read though, this is not a firmware hack. Its a decryption code to allow self booting without a chip. All we need now is a "Utopia" boot disc, and there goes the neighborhood.PantherLotus said:If this doesn't require a modchip (the current hack does -- used a ton in EU/Spain), then wiiconnect24 firmware updates could theoretically brick systems or remove illegal mods.
Potential results:
1. Nintendo can stop anybody from getting online with it through firmware brickage.
2. Mod/hack community gets into a tit for tat firmware/hack cycle (see PSP).
3. Gamers have to buy second Wii so they can have one offline system. Nintendo wins.
grandjedi6 said:Homebrew is great but it always comes with rampant privacy. Hopefully Nintendo can counter this effectively
Threi said:Read the sentence properly.
SnakeswithLasers said:Sans punctuation and capitalization does it qualify as a proper sentence?
I couldn't have said it better than Richter.DKnight said:Die region lock! you don't belong to this world!
Zzoram said:Actually homebrew has pretty much been awful the majority of the time, and I'm beginning to be convinced that the stuff only gets made so people can point to it as the reason they are getting custom firmware/modchips.
I don't think people are interested enough in Wii online to buy a second system. I don't see how Nintendo would "win", even if they did. I'm pretty sure they would rather sell 1 system to someone who buys games than 2 systems to someone who buys no games.PantherLotus said:Potential results:
3. Gamers have to buy second Wii so they can have one offline system. Nintendo wins.
Because anyone who could work on it probably wants to do a commercial version. DS dev. costs are so low why not just do that? Or join a team working on a commercial DS game.Zzoram said:The fact that the DS still doesn't have a frequently updated tower defense game (the warcraft3 based one probably gets worked on like 1 hour a month) is pretty disappointing. Why doesn't Desktop TD DS homebrew exist yet?
theultimo said:From what I've read though, this is not a firmware hack. Its a decryption code to allow self booting without a chip. All we need now is a "Utopia" boot disc, and there goes the neighborhood.
Yup. They are needed to boot all games prior to a update, so basically, it will turn out like they way DVD decrypted the CSS. They cant possibly patch this hole unless EVERY game is re-released.Durante said:If they really got both keys (though I don't see how they would in any sane encryption scheme) then I don't see much Nintendo could do about it.
snack said:Pirating Wii games is now possible....Wii am fucked.
snack said:Pirating Wii games is now possible....Wii am fucked.
I have to quote myself because of all the piracy doom and gloom in this thread. Does no one think this is a salient point?Durante said:Yeah, between the Wii and 360 being pirate-able nearly since release and the PS3 still not being cracked in any way this generation once again shows how piracy is hugely detrimental to console success.
AltogetherAndrews said:Ah yes, piracy. That's precisely what the Wii and its incredible software sales needs.
snack said:Pirating Wii games is now possible....Wii am fucked.
Threi said:ah forget it.
see ya later guys.
DKnight said:Die region lock! you don't belong to this world!
Visualante said:Because anyone who could work on it probably wants to do a commercial version. DS dev. costs are so low why not just do that? Or join a team working on a commercial DS game.
Maybe not. There are at least two protection schemes: disks are protected and the code is encrypted. This would allow to run unsigned code, but you'd still need a chip to get the disk to even load I think.theultimo said:From what I've read though, this is not a firmware hack. Its a decryption code to allow self booting without a chip. All we need now is a "Utopia" boot disc, and there goes the neighborhood.