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Winter 2010 Anime Thread: Wandering Son & All the Other Crap
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KuwabaraTheMan
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Hellsing321 said:People who say anime has become shit and aren't watching Wandering Son make me sad.
Indeed. Wandering Son has been a triumph, and it deserves to be watched by more people.
I think there are a lot of people who would rather bitch about how 'new anime sucks' and avoid watching anything that could change that perception. Oh well. It's their loss.
cosmicblizzard
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jman2050 said:
That's because every single person on this forum is an elitist. It's just to varying degrees. You got the super monocle people who can't even comprehend people dissing certain sacred cows and will label you a philistine for it and then you got those that don't really give a shit and just like to have fun but will still end up looking at people funny if they say bad stuff about their favorite work.
Master Milk
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Is it wrong to think that adaptations don't count? If something was popular enough in another medium to be adapted, then it's gotta have some merits, right?Hellsing321 said:People who say anime has become shit and aren't watching Wandering Son make me sad.
Infinite Justice
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cosmicblizzard said:
Indeed.
jman2050 said:
not all the time.
hosannainexcelsis
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Master Milk said:
Not really.
KuwabaraTheMan
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Master Milk said:
There are plenty of absolutely terrible manga with anime adaptations that beg to differ with you.
Hellsing321
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Infinite Stratos proves you wrong.Master Milk said:
Kuragehime and Wandering son have something important in common: the noitaminA anime slot. (You're kind of new here so I don't know if you're familiar with it.)Uchip said:
the noitaminA slot was designed specifically to make anime that appeals to a different audience than what one would consider the 'normal anime viewer'--that being kids or otaku. Most of the stuff on noitaminA ends up being aimed at women, which immediately puts the tone of them in a completely different place. I can't say I've enjoyed everything they've put on there (Goddammit Fractale), but if you want a list of stuff that is generally 'above' the average maturity level in anime, the noitaminA list hits more often than it misses.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noitamina
Infinite Justice
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Hellsing321 said:People who say anime has become shit and aren't watching Wandering Son make me sad.
if the show did something for me i would check it :/
cosmicblizzard
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Master Milk said:
99% of anime are adaptations. Pretty much have to count them. Whether they're good adaptations or not is another discussion that would just end in an argument between anime only people and manga/light novel purists.
InfiniteNine
Rolling Girl
Well thread is going to go up in a minute. The OVA/Movie section is reduced to the part of the chart cowboybebopfan or whatever did since screw that man.
cosmicblizzard
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Objectivity doesn't exist in fiction.
KuwabaraTheMan
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cosmicblizzard said:
In terms of stories themselves, I agree.
Something can have objectively good/bad animation, or prose, or cinematography, but a story itself can't be objectively good or bad.
I think I have it best, I love the elitist sacred cows like 12 Kingdoms and Wandering Son, I love the visual novel and h-game adaptations like Kimikiss, I love the shounen action shows like Naruto, and I'm loving the hell out of trashy stuff like Freezing (bewbies!). The only anime I can't stand are japanese comedy and trippy shows like Trazeze. Learn to love both the awesome and the trash so you don't have to be one of those annoying dipshits who are always crying that there is nothing worth watching every season.cosmicblizzard said:
Hellsing321
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Well thats implied with SHAAAAAAAFT!Aigis said:
cosmicblizzard
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KuwabaraTheMan said:
Yeah, I meant mainly story. Though arguments can be made for that other stuff, at least cinematography.
Aigis said:
I d.....
Actually, I guess I don't or I'd be more motivated to get caught up
SciencePilot
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Woah, cool threads. Thanks for the links. I'll have enough anime to watch for a while by looking through these.hosannainexcelsis said:
Hellsing321
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Well I don't think you have to be interested in transgendered issues to appreciate the show. Everything else about the show is so consistently well done and the characters are so well written and realized that its hard to not care about them regardless of whether or not you care about transgendered issues.Infinite Justice said:
Jex
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Huh, interesting.Branduil said:
Do you consider real-life stories where nothing but bad things happen 'fake'?icarus-daedelus said:
Obviously, I agree that, in theory, works that pull such stunts (and there are a few) have inherent problems. Cheap emotional manipulations is bad when it's unearned.
Indeed.icarus-daedelus said:
I like Star Driver, but I watch a *lot* of things I don't talk about. Many of them are far worse--trust me, Star Driver isn't that bad.Aigis said:
(And I'm not going to talk about the other things I watch, because people have a habit in this thread to want to watch bad things as soon as someone says they're bad.)
I can't really buy the complaint about NTHT having poor character development. Almost all of the important characters have legitimate arcs of characterization. The only thing I'd consider poor is
You can probably count the number of anime series in history with better pacing than Madoka on two hands. Seriously, if there's one thing it's gotten almost perfectly right, it's pacing.
we're never shown why Abelia remains loyal to Hamdo despite his clear insanity. You can theorize love, but Hamdo is never lovable at any point in the show.
Aigis said:
You can probably count the number of anime series in history with better pacing than Madoka on two hands. Seriously, if there's one thing it's gotten almost perfectly right, it's pacing.
KuwabaraTheMan
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JKTrix said:
Star Driver isn't so much bad as it is average, in my opinion. I think it really only attracts so much negativity because it had the potential to be amazing and wound up being nothing particularly special.
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