I'm not expecting it to come to Wii U but can there is no way to know the install base the Wii U will have when P5 comes in 2014/2015.
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With the success of Persona 4 on Vita, is Persona 5 on Vita a sure thing?
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I'm not expecting it to come to Wii U but can there is no way to know the install base the Wii U will have when P5 comes in 2014/2015.
Psycho_Mantis
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No he was a silent badass.
Nothing says badass more than cracking the trigger of a revolver to your head while shards of glass erupt from your head.
F*** that glasses shit.
Who cares about the name change he will always be minato to me.
Also
minato pretty much single-handily saved the world, formed the Universe Arcana, sealed an immortal being with his soul, and fucking refused to die. What did the investigation team do.....solve a mystery pfffffft.
They're developing the game now. The install base in twelve months will have no influence on their development.
Exactly.
It's been in development since they finished Catherine, at that time, the Wii U dev kits weren't ready.
Yup. Best possible outcome for Wii U owners is if the system picks up by then, and Atlus decides to do a port.
But I think everyone should get used to the fact that the level of spec for Persona 5 is probably going to be set at PS3. That will probably allow a port to Vita and Wii U at a later date, and could mean that 360 gets a day and date version like Catherine did. The optimist in me likes to think it'll be cross-gen too, but I'm not getting my hopes up in that respect. Atlus may not have the budget for cross-gen, not with Persona 5 anyway. Maybe 6...
buddha0991
Member
Dunno why you keep bringing up the Mystery Machine crew when clearly the best MC's are Tatsuya and Maya.
How could having Multiplayer in a single player game like Mass Effect 3 harm the game any?
How many TIMES must we freaking see this this generation for people to understand it leads to hurting the CORE GAME. Seriously, do you want me to make a list? Cause I can, rather easily...
This isn't really that much of an argument, SMTxFE had to have been in the works since months prior to Wii U's launch to have been announced two months after the console's release. For that kind of partnership between Atlus/Nintendo they would have most likely had to have devkits way before launch. Considering Persona 5 is a plethora of ways off it doesn't mean they can't add onto that platform if they really wanted to.
I can understand the install base reasoning assuming a Wii U version of it weren't solicited by Nintendo and if it were a decision this late into development, but not necessarily this one.
BRocknRolla
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IHaveCandy
Banned
But something like slapped-on PvP wouldn't take much. Hell, I don't care if they don't bother to balance it or avoid exploits. It would give more incentive to make the greater Personas and give some more end-game content. You just need to make it possible to fight each other in the typical battle system.
BRocknRolla
Member
Not really. Considering how little they showed of it (like what, one stock concept art at the end?) it seems it's very early in development.
lunchwithyuzo
Banned
I think it's too late for P4A, unless it's an expanded new release that also came to PS360. If it was going to happen I think we'd know about it by now.
In Japan they're hardly making cross gen ports, and we even have stuff like Drakengard 3, the new Atelier, KH HD (all 3 RPGs and the eventual 2.5 Remi is guaranteed PS3 exclusive too), and Sengoku Basara 3 for PS3 only as well. Highly doubt it'll be cross gen.
MegaKungFuRadio
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Hopefully cross play. Options are never a bad thing.
Cross-gen PS4 - PS5, right?
It wouldn't be too shocking if Persona 6 was current gen. They released OG Persona 3 in 2006 in Japan then Persona 4 in 2008. I could see them making P6 current gen to recoup their costs on PS3/360 in the same timeframe.
Or they could just move to PS4 right after one game...who knows.
IHaveCandy
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Yeah, I think they'd get a lot of double dippers if they made it cross-playable. I'd love a cross-buy feature too, but it won't happen.
Right... because X360 is a big success in Japan... right...
Didn't stop them from putting Catherine and P4A on the 360. They don't make 360 versions for the JP market anyway.
Not that it's 100% guaranteed for 360 though.
Well its big else where. Including the 360 in the US launch of 5 is an easy way to grab more sales. I would buy it for my 360 since my PS3 is broken and I'm not replacing it since the PS4 will be out this year.
Right, because the 360 is a big success in the US, actually.
DR2K
Banned
Which means didly shit to most niche JP developers.
I'm calling P5 on Catherine engine for the HD twins before the year 3000.
Atlus is Atlus not "most niche JP devevolpers".
It's not on Catherine's engine (which is GameBryo, FYI) as they dropped that engine after Catherine and built their own specifically for P5.
Based solely on install base, no. With 77 million 360s, there's at least a potential for 1-2 million sales. I'm not saying it will but it has a better chance at it.
First, Catherine and P4A are not JRPG games, a genre very unsuccessful on 360 (I really enjoyed Last Odyssey and it's sad they didn't keep launching this kind of games).
Second, Atlus don't care about making money, I don't know why. If so, they would release all Shin Megami Games on PS3/Vita and all Persona games on WiiU/3DS. I don't know why they don't do it.
And third, he implied it would be a 360 only game and that would be ridiculous.
Same as I said to Soriku.
So? Atlus is japanese, so they don't care about that. In fact, as I said, Atlus is a very rare company... they haven't exclusive contracts, but they focus their JRPG games on some plattforms exclusively...
I really wish that Atlus were multi and everyone could play their games, but they are not. And, as I said, for that only reason I bought a 3DSXL, for playing Atlus games...
Psycho_Mantis
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Woah there. I think your greatly over estimating the sales potential of Persona series in the West and the 360 does not have much of a jrpg crowd.
If P6 came out in 2016 I reckon thats pushing last gen too much. I think 2015 is the last year PS3 will get proper support in Japan before devs move elsewhere.
I hope Sony helps Atlus port it over to next gen or helps them with next gen or we could be in for another long wait.
There really is no evidence of the above claim especially since all we got was a title and a concept art.
Genre doesn't matter...look at Catherine. It's a story-heavy puzzle/block game. How much was that expected to do on the 360?
Lots of Japanese developers like to keep games on just one or two platforms. I don't think "making money" is synonymous with "putting the game on many platforms" because you have to factor in opportunity cost, plus the fact that your main fanbase will buy the game even if it's one or two platforms, and any additional sales gained from more platforms will be minimal.
I don't see what being Japanese has anything to do with anything. Lots of devs at the beginning of the gen made 360-only games. Not really the case anymore, but you still see Japanese games nowadays coming out on the PS3 AND 360 in Japan even though 360 sales will be minimal. Regardless, they don't make 360 versions for the Japanese market.
Raidou 2 came out October 2008 in Japan/May 2009 in US on PS2 lol. I think it's possible, but not sure how likely it is. Atlus may want to move on faster (would definitely be better if we're not waiting till the end of next gen for new console games from them).
Catherine genre is bizarre for every console, not only 360, jeje... XD
Do you really think they'd have "minimal" profit releasing Shin Megami Tensei saga on PS3/Vita and Persona saga on WiiU/3DS???
When I say that they are japanese, I'm saying they look first japanese market. And we all know Microsoft quit a long time ago there. Maybe at the beginning of the gen X360 had support... or maybe a small developer can develop his game for X360, for the lack of competition... but a big studio like Atlus or Square Enix won't make a X360 exclusive JRPG game. That's impossible. Even a port, considering what you said before, could be a big and unnecesary risk.
Catherine and P4A are on 360 and sold well. They said they made Catherine to get acclimated to "HD consoles" not "PS3 only". So yeah, they do care.
Murder. She Wrote
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PS3/Vita would be fine. WiiU/3DS would be OK...though the power differences between Wii U and 3DS are too high, unless they just make "HD" versions of 3DS games. But their 3DS SMT game use sprites and a Wii U version would have to use sprites too lol. Having PS3/Vita/Wii U/3DS all at once would be spreading sales too thin.
360 exclusive is impossible, yes. But I read that other user's post as "360 alongside another system (PS3)" than just 360 exclusive.
Catherine and P4A worked out for them and I'm sure a PS3/360 P5 would work out fine. But of course, it depends on whether they felt that Catherine and P4A sales on 360 were too little. If they felt that way, they can axe a 360 version. If not then there's no issue.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
All they did was beat a possessed Adachi and kill Izanami a goddess. Minato defied death and sealed an immortal being. In my opinion thats more significant.
There will be meltdowns if the game goes to WiiU unless its exclusive to it which has 0% chance of happening. Theres no problem with that however it seems quite a few people expect it to come for WiiU even saying its likely. Its best to keep expectations in reality and go with the most likely scenario in case you do ge upset.
My answer was to this post:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=52157469&postcount=288
"If it's on consoles, it will be on 360". Period.
As I said, he implies it would be an exclusive and that's impossible.
A port? Really difficult but I hope so, why not? I'm totally against third party exclusives.
ZombiePlatypus
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P4 was one of PS2's swan-songs, so I don't see why some people think it'll be a PS4 game. As others have suggested, it'll hopefully be a PS3 game with Vita crossbuy.
Maybe there'll be an eventual WiiU up-port since the series dipping its feet with the Fire Emblem crossover. Using the tablet controller in conjunction with the TV might be pretty neat.
Maybe there'll be an eventual WiiU up-port since the series dipping its feet with the Fire Emblem crossover. Using the tablet controller in conjunction with the TV might be pretty neat.
I just assumed he was saying that it'd be on 360 if it was on consoles, but that doesn't exclude other systems like PS3, ie. "at least 360"
Catherine and P4A were made with multiplat in mind so they weren't ported.
Also I love exclusives
Also I love exclusives
I love "first party" exclusives... but third party ones are pretty bad for our wallets...
They should just make P5's multiplayer an online-enabled Catherine clone.
I'd be okay with this.
Phat Michael
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i bought P4 Golden on the vita and Ni No Kuni on the PS3 at the same time. I havent opened P4G yet, is it more fun than NNK?
I stopped playing Ni No Kuni, im not sure why but i dont think ill bother to pick it up again, i really didnt like the battles even though the world itself was beautiful.
I stopped playing Ni No Kuni, im not sure why but i dont think ill bother to pick it up again, i really didnt like the battles even though the world itself was beautiful.
It is so many leaps above Ni No Kuni that it's not even funny. They're in a completely different league.
The Mana Legend
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Yeah, that Atlus, not caring at all about the 360 despite releasing Catherine and P4A on 360.
I haven't even heard anyone mention the two in the same conversation.
And I mean people who claim to love NNK.
P4A for 360 was probably an Arcsys thing tbqh and even they seem to be done with the releasing Blazblue on the 360.