Please fill in the blank:
"Trans women are disproportionately more likely to be victimized by men because [blank]."
Trans women: the new racists
Trans women fear men because they are among the least privileged people in the US, and the most likely group to victimize them would be men.
Saying "most likely to be victimized by friends and family" would be the most accurate.
I don't know how homosexual males and females feel. Only that heterosexual males like looking at naked women.
I never said we are ruled by hormones. I said we are programmed to look at attractive women. Sometimes this is deliberate, but other times it's reflexive.
Well, I don't know the statistics on sexual assault at nude beaches, but I can tell you straight up that a lot men are staring at those naked women. I've been to topless beaches a couple of times, and every time I went my male companions were checking out the women. Even talking about it with other men who have been to them centers around what they saw.
So knowing this, and back to my original point, can't you see why women would be uncomfortable changing in a locker room full of men?
Guess what? Straight, lesbian, gay, bi and transgender men and women all appreciate a good looking member of whatever floats their boat.
There is a big difference between seeing someone who is naked and staring at them for minutes on end. People think sexual thoughts about others ALL THE TIME, even when clothed. But the vast majority of them are able to act like adults and don't stare and drool.
When you're in the locker room, you're there to change and get back out to start your workout (or change and go home). Someone who's at a nude beach is there to enjoy the day; not try to hook up like they're at a swingers convention.
Is there the occasional idiot perv who crosses the line? Probably. But that same person would likely be acting the same even if everyone on the beach had swimsuits on. It's simply not an issue when everyone is naked.
Really, the idea of nudity being shameful is a religious thing. That's why you see it as a common belief in the US as well as Middle Eastern countries. Europe is a whole isn't nearly as puritanical as America when it comes to the naked body.
Scientists should study your mind if you can seriously control what catches your attention. Thats some next level shit
No, it's pretty basic stuff. You can notice an attractive person without staring at them.
Just because the brain goes "Holy shit, they're HOT!" doesn't mean the body has to go into full on oogle mode. Most normal people (of any gender) are smart enough to realize that they don't go around acting on primal urges 24/7.
You have obviously never been in a gay gym locker room.
I've never been in a "gay gym" as far as I know (whatever that is), but I've been in gyms that had mixed gay and straight clientele. Never saw or heard of anyone getting assaulted in the locker room. Occasionally got looks from both men and women, but that's just human nature. No one ever said anything obscene or made any advances at the gym because they all knew that people were there to just work out.
If I asked you to post a photo of you naked, assuming you wouldn't be banned, would you do it?
Are you able to articulate why the answer to that question is no?
Cut me a check somewhere in the high five figures and I'd do it.
Wouldn't give it away for free, but certainly not ashamed of my body. If people want to pay for photos, I wouldn't have an issue obliging.
Most men who regularly go to a gym are focused on one thing: themselves. They also usually tend to be proud of their masculinity so the likelihood that they'll want to pretend to be a woman to perve on girls in female changing room is SLIM to NONE. And it's not like most of them have difficulty attracting the attention of the opposite sex to the point they have to resort doing pathetic shit like that.
Pretty much nails it here. This is true of most men and women who go to the gym. They're not looking to hook up. They're looking to better themselves (and usually help out anyone who needs it).
That's dangerous. There's a reason why separated bathrooms exist, the rape and harassment potential is too damn high to take the risk, not to mention health concerns.
Well, cis men are a danger. For both trans men and women, men are most often the ones who perpretrate violence against both. This is not to say that trans men should not be able to use male facilities, or that all cis men will become violent or harassing, but the risk is real enough that pre-op trans men should be able to go somewhere safe.
Except, it's not. Most sexual harassment, up to and including rape, comes from people who are known to the victim. Not strangers.
Unisex bathrooms have not lead to increased numbers of assault or rape in places where they have been introduced.
What about nudist colonies?
If you're looking for a group of people to be non-judgmental about body types, you're likely to find them there.
The crime could simply be "I wanna see women naked", which is far easier to get away with if you can pretend to be a transwoman.
If someone's going to be a creep, they're going to be a creep, regardless. If a man or woman is sitting in the bathroom today, just staring at naked people, they're going to get called out on it.
Your hypothetical doesn't really change that in any manner.
The world is full of assholes who do very evil things, but if you're going to assert that two ex-cons who murdered a transman, a straight woman and a straight guy are "typical men" then you're not really arguing with any sort of honesty.
Creating a third bath/locker-room for trans (fourth if you count family ones) isn't an answer, or certainly not one that will lead to greater societal acceptance. We don't make separate facilities for heterosexuals who are afraid gay people will rape them if they see them naked. When and how would society decide that trans would finally be allowed into the proper facilities?
The ultimate solution will likely be unisex bathrooms.
