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Wonder Boy: The Dragon's Trap OT | What is The Secret of Your Power?
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You can keep exploring after the credits roll. You'll also have access to Hu-Man form that... well, doesn't really do anything special 'cept look fabulous.
Having 100% the game on hard I have to say that this game - especially the bosses - is a bit too easy for my tastes, with the only real pain in the ass being the multiple ninjas coming at you while there are those heads throwing fire, too.
Great remake nevertheless, really enjoyed it, even though WB in Monster Land is the much better game - could very well be nostalgia goggles at work here, I don't know - so I really hope that at the very least that Arcade Archives port gets eventually done.
Look forward to Monster Boy in the meantime!
Not only that, once you get access to Hu-man form you can also go grab
.
Great remake nevertheless, really enjoyed it, even though WB in Monster Land is the much better game - could very well be nostalgia goggles at work here, I don't know - so I really hope that at the very least that Arcade Archives port gets eventually done.
Look forward to Monster Boy in the meantime!
Not only that, once you get access to Hu-man form you can also go grab
the last Charm Stone
chaobreaker
Member
Is there a list of all the special effects some gear grant?
Finished the game yesterday, was a bit lost at the end, but finally found out what I had to do to get to the last area. I missed some unknown area's though, so I'll still go after those!
Going into this game blind, I really didn't know what to expect. Now i'll be keeping a close eye on these developers, absolutely loved it! Am I the only one imagining the greatness that would be Zelda 2 remade like this?
Going into this game blind, I really didn't know what to expect. Now i'll be keeping a close eye on these developers, absolutely loved it! Am I the only one imagining the greatness that would be Zelda 2 remade like this?
Dr Funfrock
Member
Finally started after finishing Persona 5 and just wanted to pop in and say this game is incredible and I love it.
Struggling against Captain Dragon, didn't even hit him once, lol.
Struggling against Captain Dragon, didn't even hit him once, lol.
Here's an updated version of one I made earlier in the thread:
Haven't confirmed yet in the remake but Hades Armor is supposed to break once it brings you back to life in the original, suffice to say it should be the same here too.
chaobreaker
Member
I really appreciated this game. Its like Adventure of Link but without the bullshit aspects of it and better combat. No really, the platforming was really solid for an RPG hybrid of its time.
So anyway, how are the other Monster World games? I played Monster Land a couple of days ago and found it a bit unforgiving but still a fun game.
So anyway, how are the other Monster World games? I played Monster Land a couple of days ago and found it a bit unforgiving but still a fun game.
There is one Unknown level for each character
, you can buy the Gallus Sword from the vendor you reach when you break the blocks on the ground in the village.
I think you already found the way if you found the magical sword. Go down the well blocked by breakable blocks and go in the leftmost hole down there as Lion-Man.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Can someone help? Just got turned into
fishman and it seems like I'm supposed to be doing something on the beach but I can't access anywhere new...
I am stuck here too. Unless I am missing something obvious, the only way to progress is by breaking certain blocks, which I cannot do. I have explored every available option seemingly and am out of ideas. Something obvious I am blind to has to be at play here.
WonkyPanda
Member
Go to desert and go opposite direction of sign (I believe right). It'll take you to lava area.
Funny seeing people have difficulty with this - I had the opposite problem. I'm so tuned into going left to right with these old games I didn't even notice the directional sign and got stuck trying to complete this at the very beginning as Dragon. When I went back as Fishman I was already an expert!
Thanks Krelian. Probably won't seek out those levels, feels okay to leave it here.
btw I loved the art gallery they put together for this game. It's big, plenty of cool art and I loved the music recording sessions at the end. Only missing a few art panels, I guess you get these by
beating the unknown levels.
Falcs
Banned
Just finished this. So good playing this game again after all these years. I was about 7 when I first got this, and I still remember almost everything about it. I played it back then so many times. Though I remember it been a lot more difficult. I guess I'm just a lot better at games than when I was as a child.
I really wish more old games were remade like this.
I really wish more old games were remade like this.
Easily one of the best remakes I've ever seen if not the best overall. First time playing the game and wow, shit was so fucking ahead of it's time
I think I'm at the final boss now if there's nothing left after you get human form back. Wasn't able to hit him once when I fought last, gotta try again
Also I have the Tasmanian sword and was wondering what it did. How the hell are you supposed to figure out how to use it to swap? Lol. That's rad though I'm glad I read the the thread.
Also I only found one hidden zone. Surprised the hell out of me. Had no idea there was more. What are the charms used for? There's one vendor that requires a stone or something but I don't have one and it's named different from the thing I found.
I think I'm at the final boss now if there's nothing left after you get human form back. Wasn't able to hit him once when I fought last, gotta try again
Also I have the Tasmanian sword and was wondering what it did. How the hell are you supposed to figure out how to use it to swap? Lol. That's rad though I'm glad I read the the thread.
Also I only found one hidden zone. Surprised the hell out of me. Had no idea there was more. What are the charms used for? There's one vendor that requires a stone or something but I don't have one and it's named different from the thing I found.
Go to the desert and go all the way right. You will get an item that lets you progress in the well after that.
polyh3dron
Banned
I'm close to the end I think, but so stuck. Just got the lion and the Tasmanian Sword that lets me switch between all the characters, went to the samurai-themed place and I'm just getting my ass kicked so hard. Am I in the wrong place? Or do I just need to "git gud"?
I've gotten the
and
. I'm the Mouse man, and now am I supposed to go to the
and get through that? I think I've beaten three bosses altogether. I'm having some major trouble getting through that area. I barely make it to the area with the
and they just destroy me.
Thunder Ring
Muramasa Blade
Underground
ninjas
SkylineRKR
Member
No. If Mouse is your last transformation, then you missed 2 others before you should tackle that area.
There's Lion-specific equipment you can buy that will beef him up. The Muramasa Blade is one, there's also the Master Shield you can buy from the shop on the other side of the beach area. Also don't be afraid to abuse sub-weapons, the boomerang especially is useful in that area to keep the enemies from overwhelming you. As long as you catch it on its return, you can use the same one repeatedly.
Pro-Tip: Just before the boss room to the right of the door is a hidden door where you can restore health.
No, if he's got the Thunder Ring then he at least has Pirahna Man. He'll need Lion-man though, which means going through the sea area beneath the beach. He should be able to smash the blocks covering the entrance now. EDIT: Right, you're stuck as Mouse Man. Break the floating block inside the building w/ the shop on top to reveal a hidden transformation room.
Makes sense, right? That should have been the obvious thing to do from the start now that you can swim but the game would have you travel to lava central first to get the ring which is a bit counter-intuitive but whatevs.
Seems reasonable. Did you already get the Master Shield from the beach house shop?
I went and bought that and beat the next boss to get Hawk Man. Now, I'm kinda just BSing around. I found some
door in the sky
chaobreaker
Member
So I decided to replay the original SMS game instead of just playing the Switch version with retro graphics on just to see the difference in mechanics and presentation.
1. The 16:9 resolution was a god send on the Switch remake. I kept getting hurt by projectiles shot by offscreen enemies I could not react to fast enough on the SMS version.
2. The charm point system is incredibly arbitrary and adds nothing to the game. I'm glad it's gone in the remake.
3. The sub weapon being mapped to dedicated button on the Switch version pressing the jump button while crouching on the SMS is great. Lizard form could not effectively use some subweapons on the SMS.
4. I think the game runs in 30 FPS on the SMS and runs in 60 on the Switch? I might be wrong.
5. Boss battles on the SMS are harder just because you can't switch gear or subweapons when you're fighting them.
1. The 16:9 resolution was a god send on the Switch remake. I kept getting hurt by projectiles shot by offscreen enemies I could not react to fast enough on the SMS version.
2. The charm point system is incredibly arbitrary and adds nothing to the game. I'm glad it's gone in the remake.
3. The sub weapon being mapped to dedicated button on the Switch version pressing the jump button while crouching on the SMS is great. Lizard form could not effectively use some subweapons on the SMS.
4. I think the game runs in 30 FPS on the SMS and runs in 60 on the Switch? I might be wrong.
5. Boss battles on the SMS are harder just because you can't switch gear or subweapons when you're fighting them.
D.Lo
Member
Just 100%ed it finally.
I said early in the thread but I just can't believe how much the exact same controls work so much better with animation 'tells'. The only real control issue now is the broken multi-knockback issues, especially with bosses.
Really sets a new standard for remakes, puts stuff like Duck Tales to shame. Beautiful art and music, great QOL improvements and nice little bonuses like Wonder Girl. I hope they do the whole series.
I said early in the thread but I just can't believe how much the exact same controls work so much better with animation 'tells'. The only real control issue now is the broken multi-knockback issues, especially with bosses.
Really sets a new standard for remakes, puts stuff like Duck Tales to shame. Beautiful art and music, great QOL improvements and nice little bonuses like Wonder Girl. I hope they do the whole series.
Actually yeah maybe not 30fps but it's choppy somehow?
SkylineRKR
Member
The final area is ridiculously easy if you:
With that, on Normal at least, I didn't even come close to dying. Would've beat it on 4 hearts as well. Also had unused hades armor and 3 potions left.
Go back to the castle all the way to the right of the village. Grab the legendary sword from the boss room, re enter for a cash bonus. Grab the armor or shield while killing enemies on the way out. And buy the last item from the hidden shop above the well.
With that, on Normal at least, I didn't even come close to dying. Would've beat it on 4 hearts as well. Also had unused hades armor and 3 potions left.
Yeah the best set of gear is a big help, along with having your hearts maxed.
Nope, you are committed to your choice.
mattiewheels
And then the LORD David Bowie saith to his Son, Jonny Depp: 'Go, and spread my image amongst the cosmos. For every living thing is in anguish and only the LIGHT shall give them reprieve.'
I need keys! I purchased one from a shop and wasted it on that stupid locked room in the air.....so where can I get two more?
You can buy another. You can only carryb1 at a time I think so the shop says sold out until you use it.
? Just head back the way you came... oh, do you mean that crouch-high gap in the wall? I slid under it full tilt like I was playing a 2D Mario. Get far enough in and stand up to pop up on the other side.
Though quitting to title and reloading your save works too.
Conrad Link
Member
From memory, there's a hidden door near the one to go into the room with the stone, it takes you back out above where the doors are. If ever in doubt, press up everywhere looking for hidden doors haha!
The walking back out of the new areas thing just seemed weird to me anyway.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
What am I missing about the volcano? You guys said to head here after
but there are parts where I seemingly just have to run through lava taking damage and that doesn't seem right?
turning into the fish
there's an armor you can buy that withstands lava damage
At the point you're at you can get two free ones in the desert area. Head left towards the pyramid, drop down into the underground lake, head all the way to the left and enter the chest room for the first. Exit, head up and over the pyramid, enter the Sphinx, smash the blocks and fall in to a secret room. The last chest at the far end contains the second. To exit the room, just hold Up anywhere and a door will appear. The secret room only lets you open one chest at a time, so keep re-entering to open them all.
Quitting to title and reloading your save will refresh all of these chests and others like them in the game.
bock
Member
In a end-game save, when stepping on the transformation platform with Hawk-Man,
if you hold UP + both buttons (similar to the Tasmanian Sword combo) your character with change into the opposite human character you were before, so you can transition from Hu-Man to Hu-Girl and vice versa this way.
Neat.
For those have haven't see the GamePro and VG&CE reviews of WB3 The Dragon's Trap and Dragon's Curse, enjoy.
I remember seeing a glimpse Dragon's Curse for TurboGrafx-16 on a looping VHS display at Toys R Us. Was the first time I saw the extra backgrounds added to the boss fights, and was like whoa, I want this game!
I remember seeing a glimpse Dragon's Curse for TurboGrafx-16 on a looping VHS display at Toys R Us. Was the first time I saw the extra backgrounds added to the boss fights, and was like whoa, I want this game!