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Wow, being short instantly kills a man's chances in online dating

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Not surprised. My daughter is 5'9" and absolutely won't date anyone shorter than her.
Out of curiosity, has she said why?

I wonder if listing my height 5'9" would help or hurt me with matches on Tinder. Probably worth experimenting with.
Never used tinder but I imagine you'll see both attitudes with that height. Take into account the fact that many girls enjoy wearing high heals.
 
women have it way worse.

guys: "must be thin!" "big boobs!" "ass she can twerk!" "no belly!" "curvy!!!"

women: "tall!"

guys: "FUCK YOU FAT BITCHES!!!"

Not from my experience.

At the end of the day, most guys would date any type of woman.

I've met far too many women who wouldn't waste their time with a short guy.

A woman with no ass or slightly overweight would get far more dates than a short guy.

Don't kid yourself.
 
In the online dating world women have the pick of the liter.

I saw my friends okcupid profile and she gets 20 to 30 responses a day.

Response/Message #s does not imply pick of the litter. Otherwise I wouldn't see these types still 'looking for a long term relationship' when i log in month after month.
 
^Especially on something like Tinder, with guys outnumbering the girls, they get the pick of the litter. Dudes tend to the first one to initiate messages and contact, and if she gets 10-20 messages a day, she starts weeding them out with height(or worse, race). The dudes are applying for the job, and the women are filtering through the resumes for the best candidate.
 
One of the downsides for starting my MtF transition as late as I did (27) is that there isn't much I can do about my 6'2" height (which makes me a pretty tall woman). If there were a way to donate height to other people, I'd happily drop myself down a little.

All the people I've either crushed on or gone out with have been shorter than me, and I've always been fine with that. My fiancé is 5'7".

Give me some of your height please.
 
This isn't anything new, at all. I rarely see a woman with a man shorter than her. And if he is shorter, then it's not by much.

Online Dating just makes this aspect of dating more visible
 
women have it way worse.

guys: "must be thin!" "big boobs!" "ass she can twerk!" "no belly!" "curvy!!!"

women: "tall!"

guys: "FUCK YOU FAT BITCHES!!!"

I'm sure all women love overweight guys. lol

Can you elaborate? I am curious what you mean.

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http://blog.okcupid.com/index.php/race-attraction-2009-2014/
 
It's true that a lot of chicks do filter for height. When I was using OKC, I also looked at height. I looked for people that were 5'9", but that's my cutoff because I assumed guys lie and add 2 inches to their height (all my shorter exes did this, even though I clearly could tell they were NOT 5'8" but 5'6", etc).

Wait is this something a lot of women assume? Do I have to start lying about my height too now?
 
Sometimes it feels like I live on an entirely different planet than other people. I don't understand how people can care about this at all.

Wait is this something a lot of women assume? Do I have to start lying about my height too now?

I'm more surprised that people don't know that women look for taller men to date.

Either you're new to dating, or you just don't have any lady friends.
 
I'm more surprised that people don't know that women look for taller men to date.

Either you're new to dating, or you just don't have any lady friends.
I assume people are like me. I don't care about height, so why would other people do? To me, it's about as absurd as people caring about the size of your ears or whatever.
 
I'm more surprised that people don't know that women look for taller men to date.

Either you're new to dating, or you just don't have any lady friends.
Of course I know women look for taller men. Was asking if it's common for women to assume men lie about their height.
 
Not surprised. My daughter is 5'9" and absolutely won't date anyone shorter than her.

I mean I don't find that to be that bewildering. What I do find funny are girls that are 5'6" and think they are "tall" and say they'll only consider 6' and taller because of this :)
 
181cm (5'11ish) here and mostly satisfied. Wouldn't hurt to be a little taller but I'm already fairly tall and definitely not short.

All you 5'11 guys complaining are either not true 5'11 guys (5'9, 5'10s faking that extra inch or two) or live somewhere like the Netherlands.
 
I assume people are like me. I don't care about height, so why would other people do? To me, it's about as absurd as people caring about the size of your ears or whatever.

As has been mentioned, evolutionary biology and learned gender roles both play a part.

Women have given many reasons to me over the years - the need to feel protected, the need to be with someone strong/athletic, the need to not look "silly" when standing next to someone in heels, the need to look up at someone when kissing, the desire to have taller children, the assumed phenomena of "tall cock".
 
I'm 5' 7" and have only had problems when I let my height dictate my attitude in person. Confidence and security in yourself is going to play a LOT more into your chances of success when you're short.
 
Not really surprised.

Reminds me of that Heightism Twitter account. That'd retweet tweets of people shitting on short people.
Some girls will just tear a guy to shreds for being short.

Edit: Think I found it, in case anyone is curious.
https://twitter.com/heightismxposed

Not that they're tweeting anything wrong, but those seem to be just false flag attacks.
women have it way worse.

guys: "must be thin!" "big boobs!" "ass she can twerk!" "no belly!" "curvy!!!"

women: "tall!"

guys: "FUCK YOU FAT BITCHES!!!"

Pretty much
 
6 inches is a lot shorter than you think :p [the difference]

5'6" is pretty tall for some girls. I'm of Chinese descent and 5'6" is REALLY tall. I tower over over chicks... the only time they're my height is when they're in heels.

You're saying the difference is smaller or bigger in reality? Anyway, these were all white girls. They just couldn't find it in their heart to say they prefer tall guys.

On a side note, I had a Taiwanese friend who is 5'8" and she said it was a serious dating hazard for her, which I found kind of funny (I'm sure she did not). I met a mainlander at work who is about 6'3". She's married, though!
 
yeah being short is easily the hardest thing ive had to deal with in life

EASILY

Best part is you have Zero control and are fucked once you realize the inevitable
 
what you mean by inconveniently tall?

Probably means the built environment wasn't created with people of that height in mind. (Not agreeing or disagreeing, just taking a stab at what they meant.)

On the general topic:

If you have an obvious deficit in a superficial attribute, your best bet is to avoid superficial means of dating, like online profiles and hook-up apps. If OP's friend truly has all the great qualities he claims, then he needs to put himself into situations with women where those qualities clearly outshine his height. Women, on average, are not as concerned with appearance as men are, but that may not be true of the sub-sample of women using technology to filter through many potential partners in an efficient manner. He needs to get into real life situations where he can present himself holistically.
 
Just say you're 6'2" and carry around a rigged tape measure that has a smaller scale to prove it. Go the extra mile and practice some sleight of hand and carry an identical one with a normal scale in case she gets suspicious and wants to measure herself.
 
what you mean by inconveniently tall?

Did you know that most roller coasters have height maximums along with height minimums? I have to slouch to go on some at Six Flags.

Also buses, planes, smaller cars, and most stadium seating is terribly uncomfortable. I can't sit in the grandstands at Fenway at all.
 
Just say you're 6'2" and carry around a rigged tape measure that has a smaller scale to prove it. Go the extra mile and practice some sleight of hand and carry an identical one with a normal scale in case she gets suspicious and wants to measure herself.

Well if this fails I've always got my backup...
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At least short guys you don't get fucked while flying, so I guess that's a bonus.
I'm 5'8, haven't had any problems in dating. Although, I would love to date a really tall woman.
 
Difference is smaller in reality. I didn't think my bf was 6'0" [sorry love if you're reading this], but looking back at our pictures together, he's clearly 6 inches taller than me. But IRL, I would have guessed he was only 5'10"? From my memory.

& yeah... I'm 5'5"/5'6" as a Taiwanese girl. I always tell this story... my dad banned milk and dairy products as soon as I hit high school in the fear I would grow "too tall" for a nice Taiwanese man [I was my height in middle school]. He used to lament to my mom that all the guys in our church were so short, and he was worried about my chances of landing a dude if I were too tall.

Gotta love asian parents. My mom tells me I'd be perfect if I was taller. I think got screwed since I spent my first 4 years in Vietnam so nutrition wasn't as good so I'm a couple inches shorter than my brother.

Anyway OP - I would recommend Meetup as a way to meet people in real life. I've been able to get more dates that way but you still have to have confidence and all that. Eventually found my long term girlfriend from a random meetup (someone who doesn't care about height and likes to wear high heels for that matter)
 
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