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[PdotMichael]

The comment you're quoting was about the unification of the hardware divisions, not specifically about the NX itself. Iwata also said this regarding the model that their next system would follow.



Of course, an actual shared library hasn't been confirmed either, but I don't think that just "easy porting" would really improve things if they really still had to handle the porting process by themselves and submit them as different games. Many developers probably just wouldn't bother. And what you suggest there as far as flagships go would just keep the same situation they've got going to a large point, especially if their biggest efforts were limited to a single platform.

Context is important. Nintendo's handhelds and consoles were way more differently than Sony's system example. The PSP was so close to the PS2 that it got ports and spin-offs of PS2 titles all the time even till the point that people complained that the PSP is just a machine to play console games just in worse quality. The same with the PSVITA.

 

[luffeN]

Yes, analog triggers would be nice. The way the Steam controller handles it feels perfect to me. I tested it with a community preset for Rocket League and half-pull is accelerate while full-pull is boost. It is just perfect.

 

[ZOONAMI]

BC is obviously going to be a far bigger deal to the many many potential NX customers who didn't own a Wii U.

There is a large group of customers who would have probably liked to play a bunch of Wii U games, but found the hardware unappealing, or weren't quite convinced to the tune of $300. If you can provide these customers with a degree of BC, NX would be far more appealing.

I think switching to a more modern processor architecture is a bigger priority than providing BC, but if they can manage both, they definitely should.

I think there are very few people who care about wii u Bc. Just buy a fucking Wii U either used or refurbished from Nintendo if you want to play wii u games.

They shouldn't include a wii u chipset in the Nx because it will just make the system more expensive so it can play games from it's failed predecessor. Makes no sense.

 

[ZOONAMI]

In gaming history will the NX be considered this gen or next gen? I think it'll go down as nintendo made 2 consoles this gen.

It depends entirely on when MS and Sony release their next systems, and then how soon after that Nintendo releases it's next home console after the NX. If MS releases an Xbox successor in 2017, sony PS5 in 2018, and NX2 is 2020 or so, the NX coming in 2016/2017 is 9th gen. If MS/Sony hold off until 2019/2020, then yeah NX would be a 2nd 8th gen console from Nintendo.

 

[Blood Diamonds]

I don't think most people care about BC. If they did care, the PS4 wouldn't be as big as it is right now tbh

 

[sörine]

I think there are very few people who care about wii u Bc. Just buy a fucking Wii U either used or refurbished from Nintendo if you want to play wii u games.

They shouldn't include a wii u chipset in the Nx because it will just make the system more expensive so it can play games from it's failed predecessor. Makes no sense.

The easiest way to accomodate backwards compatibility is that disc drive add-on that patents alluded to. Just throw the custom Bluray drive and Wii U SoC on it and let people play all their Wii and Wii U games that way as an option. Offloads all cost and risk away from NX but still checks the bc box for anyone who demands it.

DS/3DS bc is the more important, and easier/cheaper, of the two to accomplish anyway. Only that should be a built in priority imo, definitely in the handheld and maybe even in the console.

 

[Hubble]

The major obstacle to the NX is timing. They need to release at the same time as PS5 to capture consumers attention. If they release it before, it can easily slip to the wayside and people will forget. Nintendo needs to wait until the PS5 to release the NX home console. They should release the handheld before the NX and PS5 that will be easily integrated with their console. This is what they will probably do.

 

[KingBroly]

The easiest way to accomodate backwards compatibility is that disc drive add-on that patents alluded to. Just throw the custom Bluray drive and Wii U SoC on it and let people play all their Wii and Wii U games that way as an option. Offloads all cost and risk away from NX but still checks the bc box for anyone who demands it.

DS/3DS bc is the more important, and easier/cheaper, of the two to accomplish anyway. Only that should be a built in priority imo, definitely in the handheld and maybe even in the console.

There'd be a lot of bitching about how cheap Nintendo would be if they did that.

 

[……forgetit]

That could there to show that their new platform can be future proof. For me this is really big, I'm tired of all the diferent consoles - NOT devices, consoles - meaning different platforms, meaning that I have to get a new device and also keep my old one to play game. Meaning that X game is for playstation only but Y game is for playstation 3 only. Enough with this shit.

That's how computing works, unless you just mean backwards compatibility? New software will run on new hardware.

 

[sinxtanx]

Throwing in some casual thoughts I've had during the weekend

Nintendo including "industry leading chips" makes me believe strongly that all NX form factors will have full Vulkan support. Vulkan is showing great promise, especially for mobile platforms, is fully cross-platform, modern, flexible, fast and Nintendo has contributor status on the Khronos group.

Of that I am 95% certain.

If the "computer with cutting-edge chips" could just barely run the demo at 60, I find it likely that the computer did not have the early Vulkan drivers and that the demo thus defaulted to an unoptimized OpenGL solution.

Of that I'm 70% certain.

 

[CaviarMeths]

Context is important. Nintendo's handhelds and consoles were way more differently than Sony's system example. The PSP was so close to the PS2 that it got ports and spin-offs of PS2 titles all the time even till the point that people complained that the PSP is just a machine to play console games just in worse quality. The same with the PSVITA.

Which do you think is a better audience for Nintendo to target:

1) People who are interested in buying two systems from Nintendo
2) People who are interested in buying one system from Nintendo

Unifying their software library would cut down on the number of people who buy both the console and handheld, yes. But this is dwarfed, made utterly insignificant, by the number of people who might consider buying just one product from Nintendo. And that's all Nintendo needs to get them in the door and start buying from their software library.

1 is a strategy that prioritizes Nintendo locking exclusive software behind different form factors, forcing their own hardware to compete with and cannibalize each other, in the hopes that the handful of Nintendo diehards out there buy both systems.

2 s a strategy that prioritizes Nintendo opening up their storefront to as many consumers as possible while still being a hardware manufacturer.

If you give the average consumer a choice:

1) Buy this fun game for $60, but you have to buy $300 hardware that you didn't necessarily want in order to play it first.
2) Don't buy this game.

Guess which option most consumers will choose. Hint: Wii U sales are trash.

 

[Markoman]

After my beauty sleep I have come to the following conclusion:
releasing a console on par with PS 4 specs @300$ is suicidal:

- MS will react and cut the price to 229$ or even 200$ in fall 2016 and Sony who was going for 300$ might as well cut the price further to 250$ because both of them can (they don't need hardware profit because the install base will be massive in late 2016)

- MS and Sony may not cut the price but bundle 10 older games for that price
Imagine 300$ PS 4 with Knack, The Order, UC coll. and so on or a One with MCC, Forza 6, Gears coll, Sunset Overdrive and so on

- by fall 2016 MS and Sony have the bigger library and better multiplat-support for upcoming games

- Sony will market the hell out of PSVR which will steal some of NX' thunder

- MS might have an ace in their sleeve as well


--> NX has to be more powerful than PS4, so that the news will spread "...best looking or best running version on NX"
IMO it's their only chance left. Create some buzz by having the hottest machine out there or stay irrelevant. But a Nintendo only console will be DOA.

 

[Gunmonkey36]

The success of the NX is heavily based on whether or not Nintendo puts together a full fledged online interface(global account, friends list, store, cloud saves, multiplayer, voice chat, etc) and whether or not they do a good job supporting developers ability to create games for the platform(particularly western devs). Additionally it needs comparable hardware to the rest of the field but that's a given.

Nintendo is far behind everyone else in the industry in these categories. Basically if the company identifies its weak points and works on them they will have an extremely successful go.

 

[PLASTICA-MAN]

Any leaked specs so far ?

 

[diablos991]

Wii u = last gen
NX = this gen

Glad Nintendo is finally deciding to join the party. Hopefully not everybody has hooked up and gone to bed yet.

 

[Davey Cakes]

I want a small screen.. like a apple watch screen ipod nano kinda thing

Well, considering the existence of the GBA Micro, maybe a "micro" form factor is in the cards. You never know.

 

[Agent Unknown]

BC is obviously going to be a far bigger deal to the many many potential NX customers who didn't own a Wii U.

There is a large group of customers who would have probably liked to play a bunch of Wii U games, but found the hardware unappealing, or weren't quite convinced to the tune of $300. If you can provide these customers with a degree of BC, NX would be far more appealing.

I think switching to a more modern processor architecture is a bigger priority than providing BC, but if they can manage both, they definitely should.

The people who say they wanted to play Wii U games but skipped it despite its great first party line up are not worth bending over backwards for to provide a costly BC solution especially when those folks couldn't even be bothered to buy the system at $250 with two games bundled. It would make more sense to do a limited lineup of NX ports for the most popular Wii U 1st party games.

 

[Markoman]

The people who wanted to play Wii U games but skipped it despite its great first party line up are not worth bending over backwards for to provide a costly BC solution especially when those folks couldn't even be bothered to buy the system at $250 with two games bundled. It would make more sense to do a limited lineup of NX ports for the most popular Wii U 1st party games.

Exactly, porting over their top 5-10 games:

Mario Kart
SSB
Splattoon
Mario Maker
Mario 3D
...
should be enough. As someone who bought a WiiU for Bayo 2, I do not see any benefit of porting this game or W101 to NX. Let's be honest: Nobody will care

 

[Litri]

Any leaked specs so far ?

Nothing so far, I guess a few things will definitely leak this year or at least I hope so.

 

[PdotMichael]

Which do you think is a better audience for Nintendo to target:

1) People who are interested in buying two systems from Nintendo
2) People who are interested in buying one system from Nintendo

Unifying their software library would cut down on the number of people who buy both the console and handheld, yes. But this is dwarfed, made utterly insignificant, by the number of people who might consider buying just one product from Nintendo. And that's all Nintendo needs to get them in the door and start buying from their software library.

1 is a strategy that prioritizes Nintendo locking exclusive software behind different form factors, forcing their own hardware to compete with and cannibalize each other, in the hopes that the handful of Nintendo diehards out there buy both systems.

2 s a strategy that prioritizes Nintendo opening up their storefront to as many consumers as possible while still being a hardware manufacturer.

If you give the average consumer a choice:

1) Buy this fun game for $60, but you have to buy $300 hardware that you didn't necessarily want in order to play it first.
2) Don't buy this game.

Guess which option most consumers will choose. Hint: Wii U sales are trash.

A company doesn't invest in a system with a mind set that it would bomb anyway. If Nintendo knows that the NX console bombs then they wouldn't bother with making one.

Also releasing two Mario Karts for handheld and console to slightly different dates is still the better business decision than just releasing one general Mario Kart title.
And then there are titles which are designed around the technical specifications of the devices like touch scree or hardware power.

A general shared library is from a business and game's point of view just a pipe dream.

 

[Rösti]

@Rösti: The Dev Portal is live again: any noteworthy change to anything for registered users?

I commented on this in a previous post. As far as I could tell at time of writing that post, they only updated a few help sections. Nothing about NX.

 

[Mpl90]

I commented on this in a previous post. As far as I could tell at time of writing that post, they only updated a few help sections. Nothing about NX.

Oh, thanks. Yeah, it's not needed to be something about NX, just any change / news on the dev portal itself is appreciated.

 

[blu]

Throwing in some casual thoughts I've had during the weekend

Nintendo including "industry leading chips" makes me believe strongly that all NX form factors will have full Vulkan support. Vulkan is showing great promise, especially for mobile platforms, is fully cross-platform, modern, flexible, fast and Nintendo has contributor status on the Khronos group.

Of that I am 95% certain.

If the "computer with cutting-edge chips" could just barely run the demo at 60, I find it likely that the computer did not have the early Vulkan drivers and that the demo thus defaulted to an unoptimized OpenGL solution.

Of that I'm 70% certain.

I was thinking the same the other day. Quite possibly the demo is throwing a number of drawcalls that the desktop SDK just won't handle due to suboptimal desktop APIs.

 

[Oregano]

Will be a matter of library balance and IP choosing. Main, "epic" Zelda episode should target the home console first, while Tri-Force Heroes types should use the largest userbase possible for multiplayer reason. IMO Pokemon and Animal Crossing mainline entries should stay on the handheld.
Then you get Mario Golf and such, you can go ahead and release that everywhere day one.
It's up to Nintendo to choose what couple of titles in the year will be a flagship for a form factor.

Zelda is the hardest to justify though. The games are very expensive and don't even sell that well. Not only that but I'm fairly sure Ocarina of Time 3D outsold both Skyward Sword and A Link Between Worlds.

Not putting 3D Zelda on the handheld is simply leaving money in the table and I'm not sure they have the bandwidth to make two different HD Zelda games.

It makes even less sense when you're making your actual big money makers like Mario Kart and Smash Bros multiplatform.

 

[Nheco]

Considering it will launch three years after Microsoft and Sony it would be really embarrassing for the NX to be less powerful.

oh boy. Some people said the same regarding WiiU vs PS360, but Nintendo always surprise us.

 

[Litri]

When is AMD Zen's microarchitecture supposed to tape out, this year? I'm just thinking that AMD could have put that in the table in their conversations with Nintendo for the new HW. It's supposed to be a chip with a lot of computational grunt and consuming the same power than Intel counterparts. Is Zen supposed to come with an integrated APU too?

 

[lwilliams3]

Holy shit forgot about these two. Many names I haven't seen for a while.

Wsippel is still around. Bgassassin has retired himself.

 

[Zoon]

When is AMD Zen's microarchitecture supposed to tape out, this year? I'm just thinking that AMD could have put that in the table in their conversations with Nintendo for the new HW. It's supposed to be a chip with a lot of computational grunt and consuming the same power than Intel counterparts. Is Zen supposed to come with an integrated APU too?

http://wccftech.com/amd-zen-k12-taped/

 

[Mpl90]

I was thinking the same the other day. Quite possibly the demo is throwing a number of drawcalls that the desktop SDK just won't handle due to suboptimal desktop APIs.

Yes, that could be a decent (and reasonable) interpretation of Mochizuki's answer, without going into the "so powerful it hurts!!!!11111" territory.

 

[sörine]

There'd be a lot of bitching about how cheap Nintendo would be if they did that.

Probably, but there was plenty of bitching against Sony and MS initially too. In the end it didn't seem to matter.

I think the real concern is probably more the price of such an add-on. It'd likely have be like $150+. Maybe they could throw in Bluray movie playback to push it as a media player too?

 

[Theanine3D]

Am I the only one that actively hopes the NX isn't overly powerful? I just want a cheap affordable device to play Nintendo games. I don't want to be required to invest too much into a box that could end up having yet another 1st-party-centric library with only a trickle of games. Power would be completely irrelevant if there ends up still being not enough games in the library that interest me.

The days where I paid $250+ for a secondary game console are over for me. I don't care how powerful the machine is. But $150-$200 is still very reasonable, and they wouldn't be able to hit that price point with a machine more powerful than the PS4.

Not like Nintendo's games need a whole lot of power to look good anyway thanks to their artistic direction. They mostly just need a resolution bump and/or AA, and I don't think they need a super powerful machine to achieve that if they aren't being dragged down by the cost of the GamePad anymore.

The success of the NX is heavily based on whether or not Nintendo puts together a full fledged online interface(global account, friends list, store, cloud saves, multiplayer, voice chat, etc) and whether or not they do a good job supporting developers ability to create games for the platform(particularly western devs). Additionally it needs comparable hardware to the rest of the field but that's a given.

Nintendo is far behind everyone else in the industry in these categories. Basically if the company identifies its weak points and works on them they will have an extremely successful go.

Completely agree, and sadly I don't see them improving much or at all in this area. Most of their dumb decisions with online communication features have been intentional design decisions, born from their family-friendly focus that is part of their DNA as a company at this point. I've long since given up on expecting online play in anything but Smash and Mario Kart now. System-level party chat? lol when pigs fly maybe.

 

[PLASTICA-MAN]

Nothing so far, I guess a few things will definitely leak this year or at least I hope so.

This article claims that the NX to be more powerful than the PS4 and possible by a decent margin : http://www.nintengen.com/2015/10/nintendo-nx-tech-demo-not-able-to-run.html?m=1

Looking forward this will end: how a portable console (or at least what is believed to be) will be more powerful than the strongest home console and how Sony will react to that.

 

[DaSorcerer7]

Yes, that could be a decent (and reasonable) interpretation of Mochizuki's answer, without going into the "so powerful it hurts!!!!11111" territory.

But you're also ignoring what was actually seen was described as being very impressive it could be one or the other.

 

[DaSorcerer7]

This article claims that the NX to be more powerful than the PS4 and possible by a decent margin : http://www.nintengen.com/2015/10/nintendo-nx-tech-demo-not-able-to-run.html?m=1

Looking forward this will end: how a portable console (or at least what is believed to be) will be more powerful than the strongest home console and how Sony will react to that.

I think the PS4 comparison was with the NX home console.

 

[Vitacat]

This article claims that the NX to be more powerful than the PS4 and possible by a decent margin : http://www.nintengen.com/2015/10/nintendo-nx-tech-demo-not-able-to-run.html?m=1

Looking forward this will end: how a portable console (or at least what is believed to be) will be more powerful than the strongest home console and how Sony will react to that.

I doubt the handheld will be. I think the games will be programmed to run at lower settings on the NX handheld device, and then at highest settings on the NX console.

 

[noshten]

Couldn't comment on this previously - so here is my speculation on the NX


The Mobile(handheld) NX Unit would be released in 2016 as well as the new account system DeNa is building with Nintendo.
Majority of handheld games released should be later available on the new console. The console I expect to be released in 2017, likely until than Nintendo might be releasing certain handheld games upscaled on the Wii U. Zelda U might actually be hybrid release - MobileNX/Wii U.
Games that are currently in development for the handheld will be backwards compatible with Wii U until the release of their next console. There would be additional development required and major patch when imported on the NX console(from handheld).
So in essence the big hitters on the NX Handheld/Mobile will also be upscaled for console. There would also be smaller games that are released just for the NX Handheld as wells as Mobile Devices. You would still need to buy Mobile versions separately or link your phone with your new Nintendo Account System App.

I don't know what the plan is since I believe that the best option to appease Wii U adopters is to have their games/account be transferable to the new mobile/console NX. The problem I see is that there are certain Wii U games which utilize the Gamepad and if the new console doesn't have Gyro or a Second Screen they might not work. Also it might require additional Dev to Remaster certain games for the NX Handheld/Console, but I think its a route Nintendo needs to take.

Wonder what the plans are in terms of storage, will Nintendo release build in storage or simply have their device easily coupled with external HD.

 

[konjak]

The NX will not be as powerful as PS4, it will focus on being affordable without much loss and it will have some kind of core feature or input method everyone will hate and claim is unsuited for the games they personally deem the most pivotal to success. Nintendo will again try to focus on a feature that they feel has not been represented yet, to increase its justification as a piece of hardware people need, unlike the Wii U gamepad.

Those are my two cents. I'm really surprised at the age-old theories people are throwing out in here, yet again. Especially the idea that they should secure the Bond license, haha.

 

[Litri]

http://wccftech.com/amd-zen-k12-taped/

Mmmm, so it's recent. Question is, does a tape out mean Nintendo could get enough dev boards to start ramping up development? A CPU tape out alone wouldn't be enough unless board pre-production has started. Obviously, all the above if Nintendo is using Zen/K12.

 

[Smiles and Cries]

This article claims that the NX to be more powerful than the PS4 and possible by a decent margin : http://www.nintengen.com/2015/10/nintendo-nx-tech-demo-not-able-to-run.html?m=1

Looking forward this will end: how a portable console (or at least what is believed to be) will be more powerful than the strongest home console and how Sony will react to that.

This is so much bullshit
Who will pay $899 for NX? That is what it would cost to get half the claims of that forum post

 

[PLASTICA-MAN]

I think the PS4 comparison was with the NX home console.

I doubt the handheld will be. I think the games will be programmed to run at lower settings on the NX handheld device, and then at highest settings on the NX console.

I am still confused how the NX is both a home and handhled console. I thought the the console was a handhled one and can be played on big screen like a home console. Now You told me that there are two hardwares, one for the handhled and another for the home version which is rumoured to be more powerful than the PS4.

Why keep the same name for both consoles if they are separate and have different hardwares?

This is so much bullshit
Who will pay $899 for NX? That is what it would cost to get half the claims of that forum post

I don't understand Nintendo's strategies. In the previous gens, they always released consoles with slightly better hardware than the previous gens of the current gen consoles of each time: Wii slightly better than PS2/XBox, WiiU slightly better than PS3/XBox 360 and they were always late to compete with the current gen consoles. So now with the NX, what is Nintendo trying to do? Are they going to compete with the current gen by releasing a more powerful console (but they are very late in this current market) or are they trying to be ahead of the next-gen (PS5/XBox next) ?

 

[AstroNut325]

This article claims that the NX to be more powerful than the PS4 and possible by a decent margin : http://www.nintengen.com/2015/10/nintendo-nx-tech-demo-not-able-to-run.html?m=1

Looking forward this will end: how a portable console (or at least what is believed to be) will be more powerful than the strongest home console and how Sony will react to that.

Um... This comparison could be based entirely off early development kits of NX to production development kits for PS4, making it a useless comparison. Remember, early PS4 and XB1 kits had GTX 680 cards with i7s. The actual consoles don't even hit the halfway mark in comparison to the early development kits.

 

[10k]

I wanna see Nintendo money hat as well. I want Bayonetta 2 reactions all over again

Capcom - Devil May Cry
Platinum - Vanquish 2
Namco - Zeldaborne
Sega - Valkyria Chronicles

Etc.

 

[LewieP]

I wanna see Nintendo money hat as well. I want Bayonetta 2 reactions all over again

Capcom - Devil May Cry
Platinum - Vanquish 2
Namco - Zeldaborne
Sega - Valkyria Chronicles

Etc.

I imagine Bayonetta 3 (and indeed a Bayonetta trilogy) is more likely than anything else from Platinum. Bayonetta 2 was probably the highest rated Wii U produced outside of Nintendo's walls. Either that or Wonderful 102, a new ip, or another game based on a Nintendo property (F-Zero?!?).

I could see them partnering with From on a Souls style game based on Zelda. Either that or arrange a Dark Souls trilogy with Namco Bandai.

Why keep the same name for both consoles if they are separate and have different hardwares?

They haven't announced names for either the handheld or home console. NX is the internal codename for both devices, and the concept of a single OS used by multiple devices.

 

[jroc74]

Throwing in some casual thoughts I've had during the weekend

Nintendo including "industry leading chips" makes me believe strongly that all NX form factors will have full Vulkan support. Vulkan is showing great promise, especially for mobile platforms, is fully cross-platform, modern, flexible, fast and Nintendo has contributor status on the Khronos group.

Of that I am 95% certain.

If the "computer with cutting-edge chips" could just barely run the demo at 60, I find it likely that the computer did not have the early Vulkan drivers and that the demo thus defaulted to an unoptimized OpenGL solution.

Of that I'm 70% certain.

This makes sense with what some were saying that it could be emulator issues. And based on some demos I've seen of Vulkan vs Open GL....this makes even more sense.

I don't understand Nintendo's strategies. In the previous gens, they always released consoles with slightly better hardware than the previous gens of the current gen consoles of each time: Wii slightly better than PS2/XBox, WiiU slightly better than PS3/XBox 360 and they were always late to compete with the current gen consoles. So now with the NX, what is Nintendo trying to do? Are they going to compete with the current gen by releasing a more powerful console (but they are very late in this current market) or are they trying to be ahead of the next-gen (PS5/XBox next) ?

This is my question too. I said it earlier...Nintendo is caught between a rock and a hard place when they release the NX next year. Especially depending on what they choose for the specs of the home console.

 

[Riki]

If the are making a Souks style game, Metroid would be a better franchise.

 

[kek_lel]

I don't understand Nintendo's strategies. In the previous gens, they always released consoles with slightly better hardware than the previous gens of the current gen consoles of each time: Wii slightly better than PS2/XBox, WiiU slightly better than PS3/XBox 360 and they were always late to compete with the current gen consoles. So now with the NX, what is Nintendo trying to do? Are they going to compete with the current gen by releasing a more powerful console (but they are very late in this current market) or are they trying to be ahead of the next-gen (PS5/XBox next) ?

Do you mean you dont agree with their strategic choices or that you really dont understand?
Because its really easy to get a grip on: they are (were) going for the blue ocean strategy (especially the wii era) which basically means escaping from the 'red ocean' filled with competitors to the blue ocean which is basically a new market where they are quasi monopolists as they created that market. They try to do that by innovating. They probably had the insight that the competition is trying to innovate on graphical fidelity, so nintendo chooses to head in another direction so they do not have to share their market. Obviously Wii U was a huge failure in this respect (and I think they were just too fucking incompetent in their marketing research and decision making TBH).

Edit: They dont compete on the existing market with ps4 and xbox one so they just ignore them altogether and go for their next weird niche thingy by not giving a fuck about ps and xbox life cycles.

 

[Smiles and Cries]

I am still confused how the NX is both a home and handhled console. I thought the the console was a handhled one and can be played on big screen like a home console. Now You told me that there are two hardwares, one for the handhled and another for the home version which is rumoured to be more powerful than the PS4.

Why keep the same name for both consoles if they are separate and have different hardwares?



I don't understand Nintendo's strategies. In the previous gens, they always released consoles with slightly better hardware than the previous gens of the current gen consoles of each time: Wii slightly better than PS2/XBox, WiiU slightly better than PS3/XBox 360 and they were always late to compete with the current gen consoles. So now with the NX, what is Nintendo trying to do? Are they going to compete with the current gen by releasing a more powerful console (but they are very late in this current market) or are they trying to be ahead of the next-gen (PS5/XBox next) ?

They can't be ahead of PS5 when new tech comes out yearly Sony would just make sure they have a better chip after seeing the NX

 

[Anth0ny]

you guys aren't going to like hearing it, but nintendo should really charge for online play with NX. the market has proven that they will happily pay a monthly/annual fee to play online.

If you're Nintendo, take Sony's PS+ and run with it. Free games every month. Free virtual console games every month.

 

[LewieP]

If the are making a Souks style game, Metroid would be a better franchise.

I think doing a spin off like this makes more sense when you have been releasing mainline games in the series too.

A Metroid souls game would be fine, but it wouldn't be a replacement for a proper Metroid game.

See the reaction to Federation Force, which would have probably have had a more positive reaction if it was tied to Metroid (and specifically Metroid Prime).

 

[Trevelyan9999]

This is so much bullshit
Who will pay $899 for NX? That is what it would cost to get half the claims of that forum post

Um... This comparison could be based entirely off early development kits of NX to production development kits for PS4, making it a useless comparison. Remember, early PS4 and XB1 kits had GTX 680 cards with i7s. The actual consoles don't even hit the halfway mark in comparison to the early development kits.

The NX will not be as powerful as PS4, it will focus on being affordable without much loss and it will have some kind of core feature or input method everyone will hate and claim is unsuited for the games they personally deem the most pivotal to success. Nintendo will again try to focus on a feature that they feel has not been represented yet, to increase its justification as a piece of hardware people need, unlike the Wii U gamepad.

Those are my two cents. I'm really surprised at the age-old theories people are throwing out in here, yet again. Especially the idea that they should secure the Bond license, haha.

I figured some will still cry about this a few days after the WSJ article and clarification. If the dev kits are based on "Cutting Edge chips" as the WSJ was informed, and the tech demo was running something that looked very impressive, how are you making the jump back down to the NX probably just being a PS4 or not even as powerful as a PS4 now?

"Impossible to run tech demo without cutting edge chips" on PC and that the NX console will have "Industry Leading Chips" still means that the NX is being based on technology that is new, most likely developed in 2014-2015 (AMD design win remember?) not based on 2012 hardware that the PS4 was designed on.

I hope this paints a better picture for you.