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WWE Network |OT| $9.99 PPVs, that's gonna put some butts in the seats

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Spider from Mars

tap that thorax
Are there no Mid-Southern shows? I want to watch some god damn Fabulous Ones

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foltzie1

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empyrean said:
Just got done watching WCW World War 3 (1995).

Spoilers ahead but erm i guess they aren't spoilers 20 years later :)

wow, how bad was the 'main event'? Who thought it would be a good idea to have 3 rings crowded with people and then split screen it so you have a tiny screen of each ring where you can't see whats going on?

Well i guess you don't need to know whats going on as so many of them are stood around doing very little. Couple that with everyone just seems to go in and out of the ring whenever they feel like it and it makes it very hard to discern who is in and who has been eliminated.

I think they must have been paying people by the minute as no one wanted to be eliminated, he number of times people went over the top rope to crawl back in was criminal.

Anyway, the finish was very lame indeed, i suspect Hogan will get the title back, their was no big confrontation really between hogan or the giant so they wasted that opportunity (other than the giant dragging him under the ropes for the finish).
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Vince McMahon said:
I loved World War 3s. In retrospect, it's shit. A shitty thing. But I loved seeing EVERYONE as a kid, absolutely everyone.
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World War 3 is interesting in that it seems the goal was to bridge the gap between shows designed to look impressive in a large venue to the crowd attending and shows that look good on TV. I suspect WW3 the match looked great live with a mass of humanity fighting, but I never once saw it produced well.

They were clearly trying to top the Royal Rumble without realizing that what makes the rumble work is that it doesnt follow normal battle royale rules and allows for more story lines to be interwoven.

FWIW, I think WarGames worked better as a mult-ring concept, which the WWE eventually used for the inspiration of the Elimination Chamber.

empyrean said:
Also while I'm typing, what was the point of the yeti? He was literally eliminated in under a minute, stood around for a bit and then decided he had had enough and went away.
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WCW was bad for introducing gimmick characters and dropping them the next night. This stems from having a rotating cast in charge of planning the shows. IN this case Yeti might have been intended to be Giant Gonzales (who kind of looked like a Yeti, well kinda, in his WWF costume), but for some reason they went with Ron Reis.

The larger stars and backstage agents would actively mess with new characters and ideas would be killed one way or another.
 
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empyrean

Member
Ah ok cool thanks for the info :). As I've posted previously this is my first time watching wcw really but what is surprising me (year 1995 only 14 or so nitro episodes in) is that on nitro / generally there are very few wrestlers used. Hogan, macho man, giant, sting, Luger are literally on every show doing the same matches. Disco inferno has for about 4 weeks now just randomly turned up at he start of other people's matches and then disappeared and not wrestled. Very bizarre.
 
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Deleted member 47027

Unconfirmed Member
empyrean said:
Ah ok cool gbale for the info :). As I've posted previously this is my first time watching wcw really but what is surprising me (year 1995 only 14 or so nitro episodes in) is that on nitro / generally there are very few wrestlers used. Hogan, macho man, giant, sting, Luger are literally on every show doing the same matches. Disco inferno has for about 4 weeks now just randomly turned up at he start of other people's matches and then disappeared and not wrestled. Very bizarre.
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Disco is wonderful and one of WCW's best dudes. He's so much fun. Disco's Chartbuster > Stone Cold's Stunner
 
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BobTheFork

Member
foltzie1 said:
WCW was bad for introducing gimmick characters and dropping them the next night. This stems from having a rotating cast in charge of planning the shows. IN this case Yeti might have been intended to be Giant Gonzales (who kind of looked like a Yeti, well kinda, in his WWF costume), but for some reason they went with Ron Reis.

The larger stars and backstage agents would actively mess with new characters and ideas would be killed one way or another.
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Apparently, it was visa issues. They couldn't get him there in time so they were going to 'unwrap' the mummy to reveal him. It never panned out so for WW3 they were going to get wrestler Loch Ness to be one of the 3 giants and but didn't work out either.

Reis was just the guy they were having stand in with the mummy wrap/
 
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foltzie1

Member
BobTheFork said:
Apparently, it was visa issues. They couldn't get him there in time so they were going to 'unwrap' the mummy to reveal him. It never panned out so for WW3 they were going to get wrestler Loch Ness to be one of the 3 giants and but didn't work out either.

Reis was just the guy they were having stand in with the mummy wrap/
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Seems reasonable.

WCW was also notorious for putting the cart before the horse when it came to introducing characters.
 
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Kaladin

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Bunch of new content coming soon......

STAMFORD, Conn., Mar 30, 2015 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- In addition to the premium monthly live pay-per-view events, WWE Network unveiled new programming for the remainder of 2015, which includes eight brand new original series and partnerships with director Jeff Tremaine, Seth Green’s Stoopid Buddy Stoodios and legendary talk show host Jerry Springer.

NEW ORIGINAL SERIES:

CAMP WWE – COMING LATE 2015
WWE, in partnership with Seth Green’s Stoopid Buddy Stoodios, will debut a new, animated short-form comedy series entitled Camp WWE. Imagine WWE Superstars and Divas when they were kids at their favorite summer camp…which happens to be run by none other than Mr. McMahon – add in shock-value, slapstick humor and social satire – and you have WWE’s first adult comedy, which will debut later this year.

"We're insanely excited about this collaboration,” said Green. “WWE is one of the most heartfelt and professional organizations I've worked with. We're beyond happy to help them realize this vision.”

SWERVED – COMING IN MAY
WWE teams up with the Director of Jackass and Bad Grandpa, Jeff Tremaine, to give you the hilarious original series, Swerved. Swerved is a half hour series and will premiere in May.

“I’m excited to combine my brand of entertainment with the world of WWE,” said Tremaine. “It will be the ultimate mash-up.”

DIVA SEARCH – COMING THIS FALL
WWE spans the globe in search of the most beautiful, athletic and charismatic women to find the next stunning WWE Diva. This competition will give viewers the opportunity to witness the challenges, trials, drama and rewards that accompany the journey of these women, as they vie for superstardom. Coming this Fall.

JERRY SPRINGER PRESENTS WWE TOO HOT FOR TV – COMING IN APRIL
Hosted by legendary talk show host Jerry Springer, this series will re-introduce the WWE Universe to the most outrageous stunts and cringe-inducing moments in TV history. The series will be chock full of insane situations and racy romps from WWE’s past that will have members of the WWE Universe asking, “Did they really do this?!” Springer will inject his own brand of humor into each episode with themes such as “Love Hurts,” “All in the Family” and “Weddings and Funerals.”

The half-hour series will be available beginning in April in WWE Network’s video-on-demand library with new episodes weekly.

"I suspect 25 years of The Jerry Springer Show qualifies me to comment on outrageous behavior,” said Springer. “And what is more outrageous than the entertainment, drama and craziness of the WWE. This is going to be fun."

LIVE! WITH CHRIS JERICHO – DEBUTS MONDAY, APRIL 6 WITH SPECIAL GUEST JOHN CENA
Podcast host Chris Jericho challenges his guests in provocative, candid conversations about their careers, their lives, past controversies and the overall state of WWE. The monthly series kicks off Monday, April 6 immediately following Raw, with its first one-hour episode featuring WWE Superstar John Cena.

“I’m stoked to bring my show to WWE Network and give Jerichoholics worldwide more of what they've come to expect - humor, questions that have never been asked before and the best conversations that any podcast host has ever delivered,” said Jericho. “No matter who the guest is, whether it be WWE Superstars, Divas, Legends, executives or icons from the entertainment world, I guarantee to deliver the best, most entertaining interview you have ever heard from each and every one of them."

UNFILTERED: WITH RENEE YOUNG – DEBUTS IN MAY
WWE announcer Renee Young interviews WWE Superstars and other pop-culture celebrities, covering just about everything, except what they are famous for. In this short-form series, Renee's guests include Grammy Award winner Wiz Khalifa, five-time Grammy nominee Skylar Grey and WWE Superstars Roman Reigns and Seth Rollins. Unfiltered will debut in May.

CULTURE SHOCK: WITH COREY GRAVES – PREMIERING IN JUNE
WWE commentator Corey Graves reveals a variety of unique venues, customs, music, food and people as WWE’s tour travels around the world. From Marvel comic headquarters to a tattoo shop on the lower east side of Manhattan, Graves examines the local culture with his unique perspective and style. This short-form series will premiere in June.

WWE THE LIST – COMING IN JUNE
WWE The List is the best, the worst, the most bizarre and interesting of everything and anything WWE. If it’s amazing, outrageous, sexy or just plain fun, it just made #TheList.

NEW EPISODES:

In addition to the eight new original series, WWE Network will also debut new episodes of the highly-acclaimed docu-series WWE 24 as well as WWE Countdown and Rivalries. WWE will also add more children’s programming by bringing back the popular 1980s animated series, Hulk Hogan’s Rock ‘N’ Wrestling. In addition, WWE Network will produce compelling specials and short form content, while continuing to add 1,000 hours to its robust video-on-demand library, which currently has more than 3,000 hours of content.

WWE 24
The acclaimed 30-minute docu-series takes you on a lightning-fast journey through a day in the life of WWE’s most intriguing Superstars and groundbreaking events.

WWE COUNTDOWN
WWE Countdown settles the great debates across WWE history. Who was the most dangerous Diva? Who had the best catchphrase? This one-hour series allows the WWE Universe to determine the top 10 in each category and have the final word on who tops each list.

RIVALRIES
This docu-style series takes a look at the greatest rivalries in WWE history, as never told before. Get the real stories behind WWE’s most exciting matches and entertaining feuds through the eyes of the Superstars who created them. Each one-hour episode leaves no story untold.

HULK HOGAN’S ROCK ’N’ WRESTLING
Harkening back to 1985, this Saturday morning cartoon, which originally aired on CBS, features Hulk Hogan, Andre the Giant, Junkyard Dog, Captain Lou Albano, and Roddy Piper in a series that is both nostalgic and entertaining, 30 years later.

SPECIALS:

FLOYD MAYWEATHER VS. THE BIG SHOW: THE BIGGEST VS. THE BEST – PREMIERES MONDAY, APRIL 27
WWE Network will look back at this epic David vs. Goliath encounter at WrestleMania 24 (2008) and its shocking conclusion coming just in time for Mayweather vs. Pacquiao, which is expected to be one of the biggest boxing matches in history.

NXT TAKEOVER – LIVE! – AIRS MONTHLY ON WEDNESDAYS
The future is here. WWE’s hottest up-and-coming Superstars compete to prove they’ve got what it takes. More than just evolution, it’s a revolution! Witness these WWE Superstars of tomorrow as they take over WWE Network with live two-hour specials.
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Also.....

WWE® (WWE) today announced that WWE Network surpassed 1.3 million subscribers following WrestleMania® 31, making it the most viewed WrestleMania in history. WrestleMania was broadcast around the world last night on WWE Network as well as on pay-per-view from a sold-out Levi’s® Stadium in Santa Clara, CA. The results represent a 97% increase from April 7, 2014 – the day after WrestleMania last year and a 31% increase since January 27, 2015, when the network surpassed the 1 million subscriber milestone. Recent growth was driven by the success of our February free promotion and the iconic attraction of the Company’s WrestleMania event.

“We believe that exceeding 1.3 million subscribers reflects the successful execution of our strategy and puts us on the path to transformative growth through WWE Network,” said WWE Chairman & CEO Vince McMahon. “We remain focused on driving subscriber value by delivering the most compelling user experience and new content, evidenced by our new original series and partnerships with Seth Green, Jeff Tremaine and Jerry Springer.”

“We are pleased with our short-term results and, for the first quarter, we currently project to exceed our most recent public guidance associated with an estimated average of approximately 918,000 paid subscribers,” said George Barrios, WWE Chief Strategy & Financial Officer. “We are also confident in the long-term potential and understand subscriber growth could take many different paths. For example, Network subscribers might show consistent sequential quarterly gains or the quarterly adoption curve could exhibit seasonality with year-over-year growth. Regardless, over the long-term, we believe WWE Network has the potential to drive significant economic returns.”

Based on data to date, WWE Network attracted an average of approximately 918,000 paid subscribers over the first quarter 2015, representing a 27% increase from the fourth quarter 2014 average.1 The network’s February free promotion contributed to that growth, attracting approximately 201,000 trial subscribers, of which 154,000, or 77%, converted to paying subscribers in March. WWE Network reached an average of 982,000 total subscribers during the first quarter 2015, including both free trial and paid subscribers. To date, WWE Network has attracted nearly 1.8 million unique subscribers.
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Ravager61

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Razorskin said:
Still not sure what the hell Swerved is about.
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Observer was saying it was a show about pranks on wrestlers. Sounds kind of dumb.

edit:

They were also saying something about adding all of the Attitude era stuff? Not sure if that means just Raw and Smackdowns or the rest of Nitro as well. REALLY hoping for Nitro. I've been waiting for the rest of that forever now.
 
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Plinko

Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
All that original crap and I still can't watch Nitro post-1996 or old WWF Superstars?
 
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Fox318

Member
They NEED 1997 raws up.

WCW Saturday Night would be a nice add.

Then WCW Thunder??

They have a ton of stuff they haven't added yet but I want better player functionality and the ability to share plaits of matches.
 
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Plinko

Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Fox318 said:
They NEED 1997 raws up.

WCW Saturday Night would be a nice add.

Then WCW Thunder??

They have a ton of stuff they haven't added yet but I want better player functionality and the ability to share plaits of matches.
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WCW Saturday Night and WWF Superstars basically carried every WWF and WCW storyline during the late 1980s and early 1990s.

Neither of them are up yet and some in the thread mentioned they may never put them up. It is completely asinine.
 
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Zach

Member
Plinko said:
WCW Saturday Night and WWF Superstars basically carried every WWF and WCW storyline during the late 1980s and early 1990s.

Neither of them are up yet and some in the thread mentioned they may never put them up. It is completely asinine.
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I will flip a table if these -- and more importantly, the god dang 1997 Nitros -- are not put up soon.
 
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Anth0ny

Member
Watching Raw from the beginning of 1997 all the way to Wrestlemania 17 is an awesome experience. I did it a few years back via shitty VHS quality footage.

If they upload all of those shows in high quality I'd probably subscribe to the Network and watch them all over again.
 
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JavyOO7

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I'm confident all the vintage stuff the hardcore are asking for will come out. For the time being though, to try to keep the number of subscribers up, the original shows we saw on that PR is what they'll aim for. I guess in a way that's a good thing since it shows more money is being poured into the network. But I don't think they'll forget vintage content...

Original

Tough Enough
2002
Casting Special - 02/28/2002
Reality Check - 03/07/2002
Its Hard to be Humble - 03/14/2002
Now Thats Humiliating - 03/21/2002
All About Personality - 03/28/2002
Raw Rewards - 04/04/2002
Gut Check Time - 04/11/2002
Hot Tub Trouble - 04/18/2002
Inspired Performance - 04/25/2002
Africa or Bust! - 05/02/2002
African Dream - 05/09/2002
Heart and Determination - 05/16/2002
The Final Evaluation - 05/23/2002
Who Will be Crowned Champion? - 05/30/2002

In Ring

Raw Replays
2015
The Daily Showdown - 03/02/2015
 
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Anth0ny

Member
I just wish there was some kind of consistent strategy surrounding the Attitude Era Raws and Nitros. Why not upload one Raw and the corresponding Nitro every week? Do a one hour breakdown of both shows with a host (Renee?), one of the current wrestlers who grew up watching this stuff (guaranteed they'd go with Miz) and someone who has never watched any of this stuff (an interesting perspective, and remember there's probably many kids with the network who were born AFTER the Attitude Era ended). They can go over the matches, angles, and choose which show was better for each week.

There's like a million wrestling podcasts out there that review old attitude era Raws and PPVs. There's no reason why WWE Network can't provide something similar. The uncut attitude era Raws and Nitros are probably the most valuable content in their vault right now. I don't think just throwing a year of 1998 Raws on the Network with little fanfare is a great idea. This should be the shit you drip feed to keep people re-subscribing every month.
 
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Rodpad

Neo Member
That's a shame. Bought a subscription anyway.

I can't seem to find any current episodes of WWE Raw anywhere. Surely you can watch Raw every week on there?
 
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Mr. Enigma

Member
Rodpad said:
That's a shame. Bought a subscription anyway.

I can't seem to find any current episodes of WWE Raw anywhere. Surely you can watch Raw every week on there?
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No. Due to their current deals, there is a 30-day delay on when new Raws and Smackdowns go up.
 
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Morfeo

The Chuck Norris of Peace
So is this considered the community thread for wrestling? Anyways, I have never been much into wrestling, but after one of the guys I really liked for his flamboyance when I was young, recently was inducted in the hall of fame - Macho Man Randy Savage - I have started to watch a few of his matches, and man, this guy was really an amazing performer. And that makes me wonder why the WWF was so adamant on him retiring. First that angle with the Ultimate Warrior, and then just a few years later, once again pushing him to a color commentator role for no reason, at a time when the WWF seemingly was screaming for some better top guys. Is there more to this, or was it just bad writing/planning on behalf of the WWF?
 
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Deleted member 47027

Unconfirmed Member
Morfeo said:
Si is this considered the community thread for wrestling? Anyways, I have never been much into wrestling, but after one of the guys I really liked for his flamboyance when I was young, recently was inducted in the hall of fame - Macho Man Randy Savage - I have started to watch a few of his matches, and man, this guy was really an amazing performer. And that makes me wonder why the WWF was so adamant on him retiring. First that angle with the Ultimate Warrior, and then just a few years later, once again pushing him to a color commentator role for no reason, at a time when the WWF seemingly was screaming for some better top guys. Is there more to this, or was it just bad writing/planning on behalf of the WWF?
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Matthew Gallant said:
No, we have a monthly thread, the current one is here:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1020457
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Come on by and let's talk. Prepare a Fave Five!
 
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krae_man

Member
I've slowly started working my way through watching some of the original programming. The Monday Night War episodes are great when they're not fellating HHH.

Any other shows worth checking out?
 
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phillipgessert

Member
krae_man said:
I've slowly started working my way through watching some of the original programming. The Monday Night War episodes are great when they're not fellating HHH.

Any other shows worth checking out?
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Rivalries and Wrestlemania Rewind are good. Countdown is fun and good to put on with folks that don't usually watch much wrestling. Many of the Beyond the Rings are good, especially the Heyman documentary.

I like Legends House and Total Divas, but they're not for everyone.
 
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Liu Kang Baking A Pie

Member
The problem with the original stuff is they all follow the same basic formula, and they're not even really that good at it. They're not particularly insightful, funny, engaging, or charming.
 
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JavyOO7

Member
Original
•Wwe Quick Hits
•2015 • Okerlund Sign of Times (1 - 04/13/2015
• Cena AAs Batista (3 Min) - 04/13/2015
• Bobby Banned in Boston (3 Min) - 04/13/2015
• Mark Henry Truckin (5 Min) - 04/13/2015
• Uso Mania (8 Min) - 04/13/2015

In Ring
•Raw Attitude Era
•1997 • Episode 238 - 12/15/1997
• Episode 239 - 12/22/1997
• Episode 240 - 12/29/1997

•1998
• Episode 241 - 01/05/1998
• Episode 242 - 01/12/1998
• Episode 244 - 01/26/1998
• Episode 245 - 02/02/1998
• Episode 246 - 02/09/1998
• Episode 247 - 02/16/1998
• Episode 248 - 02/23/1998
• Episode 249 - 03/02/1998
• Episode 250 - 03/09/1998
• Episode 251 - 03/17/1998
• Episode 252 - 03/23/1998
• Episode 254 - 04/06/1998
• Episode 256 - 04/20/1998
• Episode 259 - 05/11/1998
• Episode 260 - 05/18/1998
• Episode 261 - 05/25/1998
• Episode 262 - 06/01/1998
• Episode 263 - 06/08/1998
• Episode 264 - 06/15/1998
• Episode 265 - 06/22/1998
• Episode 266 - 06/29/1998
• Episode 267 - 07/06/1998
• Episode 268 - 07/13/1998
• Episode 269 - 07/20/1998
• Episode 270 - 07/27/1998
• Episode 271 - 08/03/1998
• Episode 272 - 08/10/1998
• Episode 273 - 08/17/1998
• Episode 274 - 08/24/1998
• Episode 275 - 09/05/1998
• Episode 276 - 09/12/1998
• Episode 277 - 09/14/1998
• Episode 278 - 09/21/1998
• Episode 282 - 10/19/1998
• Episode 283 - 10/26/1998
• Episode 284 - 11/02/1998
• Episode 285 - 11/09/1998
• Episode 286 - 11/16/1998
• Episode 287 - 11/23/1998
• Episode 288 - 11/30/1998
• Episode 290 - 12/14/1998
• Episode 291 - 12/21/1998
• Episode 292 - 12/28/1998

•Smackdown Replays
•2015 • Stairway to Mania - 03/12/2015
 
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Host Samurai

Member
Been watching old Nitros an whatever happens to the Dungeon of Doom vs Hogan feud once the NWO shows up? What's up with that dude called The Master? 1995 up until the NWO show up is a very strange WCW era.
 
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Mr. Enigma

Member
Host Samurai said:
Been watching old Nitros an whatever happens to the Dungeon of Doom vs Hogan feud once the NWO shows up? What's up with that dude called The Master? 1995 up until the NWO show up is a very strange WCW era.
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Hogan disappears off WCW TV after Uncensored in March 1996 after he and Savage beat the "Alliance to End Hulkamania" in that ridiculous triple cage gimmick. There's about a two month gap between Hogan disappearing and Hall debuting.
 
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Aiii

So not worth it
Mr. Enigma said:
Hogan disappears off WCW TV after Uncensored in March 1996 after he and Savage beat the "Alliance to End Hulkamania" in that ridiculous triple cage gimmick. There's about a two month gap between Hogan disappearing and Hall debuting.
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That's not quite right, I just watched the April 14th Nitro and he had a handicap match against Sullivan and AA to open the show.

You can really notice this is the points where the fans got fed up with him though, loud boos all the time he's on and doing his comeback, all the while Bischof and Heenan are trying to sell the idea of Hulkamaniacs and how he gets power from them as he Hulks up and stuff.
 
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Hasney

Member
Just noticed Javy is missing an episode: The first Raw of 1999.

Thank fuck, not giving us that Foley title win would have been a huge cocktease. I know it's the WWE narrative to say that was the moment they were put into a dominant position, but it's the one time I agree with it. First time in a while I'd turned to Raw while Nitro was still on during the bizarre UK Friday Night War.

EDIT: Feel like ranting like I was 15 again. In 1999, not only did we have the internet to find out such things as when a program aired, but both shows were called Monday something. Why put both shows head to head if you're going to delay them 5 nights? Goddamn.
 
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