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WWE Raw Ratings: Viewership Hits Record Low

PHOENIXZERO said:
All I hope is that Brach doesn't squash him.


Nice to have an new article about it, you'd think something like this would be concerning to WWE but nope. Maybe we'll get some Loony Toon quality angles again from Vince because Vince knows the kids love the Loony Toons! Maybe he can call the operator and get the Muppets on the phone.
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Seems like its a problem with all sports other than Basketball. UFC average age now is 49.

If you look at what kids under 18 are watching on tv its basically soccer. Everyone else is in 9% percent range.

If you look at from 2000-2006 most people under 18 were watching wrestling and action sports.
 
RBH said:
http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/...5/Research-and-Ratings/Viewership-trends.aspx

http://deadspin.com/study-the-median-age-of-tv-wrestling-viewers-has-nearl-1795864450

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Holy fuuuuuuuuuuuck



28 in 2000. The YOUNGEST median age of all the sports on there.

Now it's 54. The change for wrestling is unreal, especially considering how much they aim their product at kids.
 
People who grew up after the Attitude Era have never known wrestling to be good in their lives. Of course wrestling fans are all old.
 
Anth0ny said:
Holy fuuuuuuuuuuuck



28 in 2000. The YOUNGEST median age of all the sports on there.

Now it's 54. The change for wrestling is unreal, especially considering how much they aim their product at kids.
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It's the star thing I'm telling you... 28 year olds in 2000 were 12 when Hogan broke through, 24-25 when Austin and Rock came to super stardom....


There's no mainstream star left other than sort of Cena and he's much lesser than.
 
Anth0ny said:
Holy fuuuuuuuuuuuck



28 in 2000. The YOUNGEST median age of all the sports on there.

Now it's 54. The change for wrestling is unreal, especially considering how much they aim their product at kids.
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From 1998 to the beginning of 2000 wrestling was actually considered cool for the only time in wrestling history, now it is in embarrassment to actually admit to liking it. It is my deep dark secret that I don't tell anyone now
 
There was a large WCW base that left wrestling when WCW died and never came back. It's been acknowledged multiple times by WWE employees.
 
RBH said:
http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/...5/Research-and-Ratings/Viewership-trends.aspx

http://deadspin.com/study-the-median-age-of-tv-wrestling-viewers-has-nearl-1795864450

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Anth0ny said:
Holy fuuuuuuuuuuuck



28 in 2000. The YOUNGEST median age of all the sports on there.

Now it's 54. The change for wrestling is unreal, especially considering how much they aim their product at kids.
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Oh the irony of the Roman Reigns Super-Cena push. It's actually helping drive away the audience it's trying to attract and Vince is actively booking against empirical evidence that things aren't working.
 
FyreWulff said:
There was a large WCW base that left wrestling when WCW died and never came back. It's been acknowledged multiple times by WWE employees.
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I wonder what things would have been like if WWE had just kept WCW as a separate brand that ran on a different night instead of doing the eventual brand split like they did. It's an interesting "What If..." scenario.
 
Proteus said:
I wonder what things would have been like if WWE had just kept WCW as a separate brand that ran on a different night instead of doing the eventual brand split like they did. It's an interesting "What If..." scenario.
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It would have failed just like WWECW did, because they would've run it the WWE way.

WCW was different because it was not WWE, if WWE ran it, it would just be a WWE show.
 
Proteus said:
I wonder what things would have been like if WWE had just kept WCW as a separate brand that ran on a different night instead of doing the eventual brand split like they did. It's an interesting "What If..." scenario.
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It would have never happened because, even if Vince owned the brand, he wouldn't like seeing WCW potentially being WWE in ratings. Hell, he didn't even really like Smackdown beating Raw in ratings.
 
Bruce Springsteen said:
From 1998 to the beginning of 2000 wrestling was actually considered cool for the only time in wrestling history, now it is in embarrassment to actually admit to liking it. It is my deep dark secret that I don't tell anyone now
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I really hope you're joking, because if not that is some fucked up shit.

I mean if I can wear a Hawkman t-shirt in public...
 
Proteus said:
I wonder what things would have been like if WWE had just kept WCW as a separate brand that ran on a different night instead of doing the eventual brand split like they did. It's an interesting "What If..." scenario.
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Vince would have Vinced it, just like when he originally bought WCW's timeslot and tried to have his style of wrestling in an area that preferred rasslin'.
 
It's "Vince's way or no way" his being a control freak with a huge ego wouldn't allow it, if it's not of his own vision he wants nothing to do with unless he can make it his own it nine out of ten times. It took the WWF coming close to allegedly going out of business for him to change direction of the company.


I said it ages ago but if WWE really wanted a "reality era" as they're calling this stupid time in WWE instead of having invisible cameramen following talent around (god I hate how they pretend aren't there, even more when they specifically set up locations) they should just give talent Go Pros or something and just let them do their things with limited or no scripting and trust the talent to come up with their own things or angles... Yeah, I know that's a big no no in modern WWE and "creative" doesn't like when people get stuff over without them.
 
FyreWulff said:
Vince would have Vinced it, just like when he originally bought WCW's timeslot and tried to have his style of wrestling in an area that preferred rasslin'.
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Yep. He wouldn't be able to help himself and he'd destroy the brand.
 
Sephzilla said:
There's only a handful of WWE shirts I'd actually wear out in public. Most WWE shirts are hideous looking
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Yeah-- It's not so bad if you search using the kind of shirt, rather than the actual wrestler. I usually get better results searching 'vintage', 'schamberger', or 'golden truth'
 
We've had this discussion in WrassleGAF a lot but generally the only shirts that we universally agree are pretty good for wearing out in public (aka: they dont look gaudy and awful) are the original nWo shirt, Austin 3:16, and the vintage purple/green Macho Man shirt.
 
To me the problem is the UFC. It has cut into the wrestling market. Its entertaining and its real.

The wrestling stories are as predictable as they were in the 80s. It doesnt stand out anymore.
 
VincentMatts said:
To me the problem is the UFC. It has cut into the wrestling market. Its entertaining and its real.

The wrestling stories are as predictable as they were in the 80s. It doesnt stand out anymore.
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Which is why this notion of making pro wrasslin seem like a legit shoot sport is a joke, any viewer would just change the channel and watch the real thing.
 
Sephzilla said:
We've had this discussion in WrassleGAF a lot but generally the only shirts that we universally agree are pretty good for wearing out in public (aka: they dont look gaudy and awful) are the original nWo shirt, Austin 3:16, and the vintage purple/green Macho Man shirt.
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So WrassleGaf doesn't approve of me and my Dean Ambrose t-shirts?
 
VincentMatts said:
To me the problem is the UFC. It has cut into the wrestling market. Its entertaining and its real.

The wrestling stories are as predictable as they were in the 80s. It doesnt stand out anymore.
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Shoot fighting has been going on for a 100 of years and pro wrestling has been super popular even with it.
 
VincentMatts said:
it was never televised like it is now.
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UFC doesn't do better ratings than raw or Smackdown and even during the pre tv era both Wrestling and boxing draw compared to one another outside of huge fights.

To your previous point Wrestling storylines have been predictable long before 80s and never really affected anything.
 
Heroman said:
UFC doesn't do better ratings than raw or Smackdown and even during the pre tv era both Wrestling and boxing draw compared to one another outside of huge fights.
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It doesnt need to to steal viewers from wrestling. The point is UFC in the 80s was no competition at all, now it is. In the 80s it was WWF and boxing. Now theres a lot more competition.
 
VincentMatts said:
It doesnt need to to steal viewers from wrestling. The point is UFC in the 80s was no competition at all, now it is. In the 80s it was WWF and boxing. Now theres a lot more competition.
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There's way less competition now, like there are no other major USA Wrestling promotions and boxing , which was way bigger than UFC us now , is dead. UFC is not the reason why ratings are dying.
 
Tom Nook said:
WWE did not capture any new audiences to the product - only the loyal WWE fans from the attitude and golden era are watching.
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Sephzilla said:
Oh the irony of the Roman Reigns Super-Cena push. It's actually helping drive away the audience it's trying to attract and Vince is actively booking against empirical evidence that things aren't working.
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It's because all of these kids WWE goes after. All these super Cena kids and the like, when they start to grow up they grow tired of the superman and want something else.

BUT

I'm not a kid anymore, Cena is boring now
Cena sucks
but Cena shits on EVERYONE else each and every week
Therefore, everyone else sucks
Therefore, wrestling sucks
Therefore, I'll just stop watching wrestling

Replace Cena with Roman etc.

The problem isn't the kids they are catering to, it's that they give the kids no one to root for and move on to once they grow tired of the ONE person the company shoves down their throat. Which, is also the problem for every other demographic as well.


Another problem is WWE tries to be for everyone and in turn, ends up being for noone. Whenever WWE touts
heh
the "It's not for you, it's for the kids" line all I can do is laugh. Modern WWE is about super serious dudes fighting intense serious dudes. Kids love when charaters talk in slow monotoned voice and have half hearted debates on thier fighting show. What charaters on wwe would fit on a "kids show" these days. New Day, Mojo, Jericho could pull it off, Breezango, their are a few more that are borderline but the point is where is the fun.

In the end the "kids show" is just a deflection to defend the fact that WWE is cleary to stupid to know who their actual audiance is and far too stuboorn to change. So instead we get unwatchable shit.


edit post is full of errors and typos but much I like wwe i don't care so tough shit pal
 
Bruce Springsteen said:
From 1998 to the beginning of 2000 wrestling was actually considered cool for the only time in wrestling history, now it is in embarrassment to actually admit to liking it. It is my deep dark secret that I don't tell anyone now
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Second time. Rock n Wrestling in the mid 80s was all over MTV when MTV was a big deal
 
Bruce Springsteen said:
Vince Russo pretty much the only mind in the business to save the industry
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Vince Russo hasn't been a good wrestling mind in 20 years and, when you step back and think about it, he's the one who's ultimately responsible for the decline in professional wrestling since he was the guy who practically killed WCW. And the loss of WCW ultimately hurt the quality of WWE.
 
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