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This is where Vince needs to know his limits abd rely on Heyman. While Sandow wasn't the best wrestler, dude has the charisma. Book him right, enhance the strength, hide the weaknesses.

Same with Barrett.
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Heyman has repeatedly said he wants nothing to do with creative. Heyman isn't coming to save the WWE. He's happy making big cash being Lesnar's RL and in-ring best buddy.

Put anyone in the ring with AJ-Styles or Lesnar and they'll have good matches as well.

Has Roman ever had a good match against someone who didn't have to carry his gassed ass?

I remember the same arguments when John Cena was having great matches for years when the Internet gave all the credit to his opponents back then - it takes two to tango. But, the Lesnar/Big Show matches was much better than it had any right to be. Reigns isn't quite good enough to get good matches out of bad workers like Triple H, but what can you do?
 
Nobody thinks Sandow or Ryder should be main eventing, but it's ridiculous WWE can't find time for dudes so over on a 3 hour show.
 
I refuse to believe anyone liked Alex Riley. I don't even think Alex Riley's family liked Alex Riley.

Lol this , i never bothered about Riley after the miz angle , felt he was never doing anything that attracts attention.

I admit when i saw the thread name i thought some of those awful tag teams would be dropped off , seriously its terrible the tag team division they have apart from the new day and the dudleys need some teams that bring in some team work and story.

hardy's , apa heck even the right to censor were fun.

i just switch off whenever The Lucha Dragons or Primo & Epico or The Usos show up
 
Is Simon Cowell still trying to get his wrestling federation started in the UK? I could totally see Wade becoming their top draw.

Sandow is a mediocre talent, but that still doesn't excuse how they failed him. He should have broken out at the Andre Battle Royale last year, but they just had to give it to Big Shoe for some reason...

And as far as pay in non-WWE companies go, there has been cases where talent at TNA have had to go on food stamps. Make of that what you will.
 
I refuse to believe anyone liked Alex Riley. I don't even think Alex Riley's family liked Alex Riley.

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I refuse to believe anyone liked Alex Riley. I don't even think Alex Riley's family liked Alex Riley.
I was at an NXT house show a few weeks ago. He was in the main event against Tye Dillinger.

Billed him from Tampa (where we were), booked him as a face, even had him go over.

No love from the crowd.

Then he tweeted this shit:
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Good fucking riddance.
 
sucks for Sandow, that MITB run was such a waste.


lol, Cameron was such a joke, and bitched on social media about not being used right and promised a huge comeup

sucks for Wade though, his NXT and matches with Cena was really well done, sucks he didnt get a title run.

the rest can kick rocks
 
I enjoyed working with Alex Riley back in 2011 and would gladly work with him again since he was easier to work with than Kelly Kelly.
 
I refuse to believe anyone liked Alex Riley. I don't even think Alex Riley's family liked Alex Riley.

I know that LiquidSnake always brings up that story of Cena chewing him the fuck out that one time to justify how Cena's actually a terrible human being and that's why he hates him, but it's Alex Fuckin' Riley so chances are he probably deserved much worse than whatever Cena gave him.
 
I know that LiquidSnake always brings up that story of Cena chewing him the fuck out that one time to justify how Cena's actually a terrible human being and that's why he hates him, but it's Alex Fuckin' Riley so chances are he probably deserved much worse than whatever Cena gave him.

Cena burying Riley is his greatest gift to the company
 
I know that LiquidSnake always brings up that story of Cena chewing him the fuck out that one time to justify how Cena's actually a terrible human being and that's why he hates him, but it's Alex Fuckin' Riley so chances are he probably deserved much worse than whatever Cena gave him.

Except the rumor is Cena was out of line and Riley got punished for not complaining about it in private. Crazy unwritten rules about respect and whatnot.
 
Kind of bummed about Sandow even though he hasn't done anything of note lately. His program with the Miz was pretty entertaining. The times he would act like he got hit after Miz took a shot were usually pretty funny.
 
sucks for Sandow, that MITB run was such a waste.


lol, Cameron was such a joke, and bitched on social media about not being used right and promised a huge comeup

sucks for Wade though, his NXT and matches with Cena was really well done, sucks he didnt get a title run.

the rest can kick rocks

Tbf as Wade says, he's been wanting out since August. He would have definitely been used if he stayed, unlike the others, but I think he was probably miffed that when he got the Bad News gimmick over, they took it away from him, giving him the King of the Ring as if it's some kind of compensation.

He'll be happier anywhere else. And if he does a good job wherever he goes, he'll be able to come back to a much better spot.
 
Tbf as Wade says, he's been wanting out since August. He would have definitely been used if he stayed, unlike the others, but I think he was probably miffed that when he got the Bad News gimmick over, they took it away from him, giving him the King of the Ring as if it's some kind of compensation.

He'll be happier anywhere else. And if he does a good job wherever he goes, he'll be able to come back to a much better spot.

Not sure why you quoted me on a Wade topic. Was chatting about Riley.
 
I was at an NXT house show a few weeks ago. He was in the main event against Tye Dillinger.

Billed him from Tampa (where we were), booked him as a face, even had him go over.

No love from the crowd.

Then he tweeted this shit:
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Good fucking riddance.

Not to mention him getting in a Twitter feud with some radio host.

Riley is pretty much a real life "Loose Cannon" gimmick.
 
Nobody thinks Sandow or Ryder should be main eventing, but it's ridiculous WWE can't find time for dudes so over on a 3 hour show.

Look, it's really important to push recaps, 10+ minute McMahon/HHH promos, and WWE Network programming, okay?

Sandow and Ryder aren't putting the butts in seats or selling merch!

Or something.

I'm a bit upset about Barrett, to be honest. Barrett should have been the champ.
 
I don't see any stars.
(Barrett was good and Barrett should have been great, but he took charge of his own way and he will be fine)

All were sub tier, lower than jobbers and Cameron tried to hide the fact that she has been in trouble with convincing people that she is a victim.

Sandow was not good, it was a funny joke to say that he is good and a clever smark and in thing but reality is he is not.
He does not have a look, and I have seen nothing showing that he can carry a match.
He is a comedian, a personality which is great but those are a dime a dozen.
Better they let him go if he is talented so he can find somewhere to get a chance because in WWE he would not.
 
I don't see any stars.
(Barrett was good, but he took charge of his own way)

All were sub tier, lower than jobbers and Cameron tried to hide the fact that she has been in trouble with convincing people that she is a victim.

Sandow was not good, it was a funny joke to say that he is good and a clever smark and in thing but reality is he is not.
He does not have a look, and I have seen nothing showing that he can carry a match.
He is a comedian, a personality which is great but those are a dime a dozen.
Better they let him go if he is talented so he can find somewhere to get a chance because in WWE he would not.

Sandow was a good speaker who got a number of bad gimmicks over. That is some kind of value and claiming people were just "kidding" if they noticed this is absurd.
 
And he's dumb for thinking that.

That's exactly what I mean. And if I were the WWE I would not want to piss The Rock off by firing releasing them etc........ Its called smart business.

Its not about race, who the hell took it there, I m talking about connections.

And we all know connections means everything in this world.
 
What kind of work did you do with them, if you don't mind me asking?

I worked on the THQ WWE games awhile back and I had to be his handler for several hours on a few days to make sure he was taken care of, got to his appointments, etc. He was one of the easier to get along with WWE talent I met, quiet and kept to himself while others like Harry Smith, Tyson Kidd, Shad, Hornswaggle, Nattie all socialized together. Kelly Kelly was standoffish, didn't like the media or fan appearances, wanted to leave early, etc.
 
Sandow was a good speaker who got a number of bad gimmicks over. That is some kind of value and claiming people were just "kidding" if they noticed this is absurd.

I'm sorry, coming to the ring as Macho Man and Magneto and getting the crowd going is not the catapult to the upper tier.
He could get every character over except his own.
Yes alot of that had to do with writing, but alot of it also had to do with the fact that once he got his foot in the door with those gimmicks he could not make them into anything.
Maybe some time in other feds will fill him out and he can come back
 
I'm sorry, coming to the ring as Macho Man and Magneto and getting the crowd going is not the catapult to the upper tier.
He could get every character over except his own.
Yes alot of that had to do with writing, but alot of it also had to do with the fact that once he got his foot in the door with those gimmicks he could not make them into anything.
Maybe some time in other feds will fill him out and he can come back

He turned "being a stunt double" into an incredibly over act.

He was then taken off TV for a year, then released.

Where in that was his "failing to make them into anything"?
 
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