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Xbox may have outsold Playstation in last quarter (Oct~Dec 2021)
- Thread starter EdGalTBR
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tmlDan
Member
you cant sell what's not available.
GigaBowser
The bear of bad news
This is a problem when supply issues are going to last for years.
Series S is easier to produce.
Sony's early head start from ordering more supply wafers at launch is starting to diminish and the PS5 supply well is starting to dry up.
TBiddy
Member
The XSX was supply constrained as well.
kingfey
Banned
You only get 1 console from each brand.
This is just fanboys fighting for numbers.
I would like to get my hands on both consoles. But they are out of stock here.
Work hard. Make millions of USD. Become a prominent Microsoft shareholder and then ask Nadella that question.
I bet you also want to know what Spencer ate for breakfast.
Yep. We just went through a generation where the PS4 was available on store shelves for years.
Never saw that cited as proof that the PS4 was a struggling console.
Kagey K
Banned
Why wouldn’t it be?
Apple counts all iPhone 13 sold, doesn’t matter if it’s the 13 or 13 pro.
Samsung counts all S21 sold, doesn’t matter if it’s the S21, Ultra or FE.
The series is MS current gen console line, which consists of 2 consoles, it’s not new or uncommon in the tech manufacturing industry.
Shadowstar39
Member
No... but i have a pc with 3060ti There is nothing i can't play from xbox. there is software i can't play on pc from ps5.
Also have a switch.
No reason to waste money on xbox. Will wait it out for ps5.
Brofist
Member
Probably just a raging hard on. After he just admitted competition is good no less
PharaoTutAnchAmun
Member
What system seller did MS released last year, Halo...FH5??
Kagey K
Banned
I think that was his point, people aren’t going and buying Xboxs because they can’t get a PS5.
Andodalf
Banned
Yeah I’d say releasing two tent pole titles which are both GOTY contenders is pretty good. Put out a few other GOTY contenders on other platforms as well due to new purchases having prior agreements.
Von Hugh
Member
That's a fact, but wishing Xbox + MS to vanish is still my prime wish.
That's a pretty stupid wish since competition benefits all gamers.
Bo_Hazem
Banned
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
These no downplaying how much of a genius move, and also a shit ton of luck the series S was. Absolute beast for microsoft.
a lot of luck too, serious luck. Looks like it could cement microsoft with seriously strong sales this generation.
a lot of luck too, serious luck. Looks like it could cement microsoft with seriously strong sales this generation.
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CeeJay
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There may be an element of luck with the chip shortage but Microsoft's general direction of travel towards making their games available on a wide range of hardware. Spread your potential market as wide as possible, remove as many single points of failure as possible and you are protecting yourself from any unforeseen events that could otherwise cause supply problems. Really MS were not lucky, they factored something like this in to their plan.
EdGalTBR
Banned
They have the U$399,90 PS5 Digital.
SenjutsuSage
Banned
So customer wants a PS5 because of all those Sony exclusives, has been planning for weeks months.
Walks into store and only sees Xbox.
Decides to buy Series X/S instead?
That does happen. To think it doesn't is unrealistic, wishful thinking. Some people will not buy anything else, and hold out for a PS5. Some will see a Series X|S, and really not want to leave empty handed, grab one, have their justification in mind for doing so, and go ahead and make the purchase.
You think none of the holiday buyers for Series X|S had any interest in a Playstation 5?
Yes, this is why I bought a series X. I've been very happy with it too, especially game pass.
Had the PS5 been available I might never have bought an Xbox. Still, due to PSVR2 I reckon I'll have to pick up a PS5 eventually.
Magic Carpet
Member
This still amazes me that all that power for only 400 bucks. I then go and get the more expensive one with a disc reader that I will most likely never use.
As a side musing on dead to me optical media.
Want to feel old? Play a DVD or bluray that you used to love watching on a modern console. Fast Forward to your favorite scenes. Look how clunky and awkward it is to simply fast forward. Now watch that same thing on Netflix and see how smooth the fast forward with little preview windows. Both PS5 and Series X need to update and modernize their optical media players.
MOTM
Banned
I have an interest in Samsung Galaxy Phones. However I plan on buying an Iphone because that's what i prefer.
If I go to the store and the Iphone is out of stock I'm definitely not dropping $1000 to buy a Samsung just because. I will get an Iphone next time I can. Hell I've been planning this for days, weeks, months.
fart town usa
Gold Member
I can't wait for the inevitable threads like, "Why the Series S renders the Series X obsolete..." "The Series S is the true nex-gen MS console"
Kagey K
Banned
It will still sell like hotcakes to the price conscious during the holidays. Especially if they offer some Black Friday bundles.HA, Xbox may have outsold Playstation! May have..... Maybe.... Pretty Please?
I wonder if the chip shortage ever gets sorted, if suddenly no one will care about the XBSS.
TheGodfather07
Member
We can never actually know because there is no official data. Though its probably correct thanks to series s being in stock and very affordable over the holiday period. PS5 and XSX still nowhere in sight.
Roxkis_ii
Member
Not if their smart. Why spend money on a stop gap console when you can add an extra 100 and get a full 4k console?
I could understand if your strictly an Xbox gamer, but otherwise your cheating yourself.
Kenshin775
Member
Can MS keep up that pace of 4-4.5 million units a quarter though? That is a lot of production during a pandemic.
8BiTw0LF
Banned
I'd like to see a Sony like in 2011-12. PS4 had it way too easy and lived on 3rd person narrative games - but that's also what the competiton didn't have. I want Sony to fight the competition like in 2011-12. New ideas (not PS Vita2!) and a lot more diverse games. Arcade racers, First-Person shooters, F2P, VR.
Competition is great and I'm pretty sure this will be much like the X360 & PS3 era - without all the fuckups.
Competition is great and I'm pretty sure this will be much like the X360 & PS3 era - without all the fuckups.
Kagey K
Banned
They only need 3 this quarter as Sony is only shipping 2 according to thier guidance.
The_Mike
I cry about SonyGaf from my chair in Redmond, WA
Interesting.
What's the reason you bought one since you couldn't get your preferred console?
And why have you always preferred PlayStation over xbox? I mean, you know that på exclusives don't come to Xbox, which is why I assume youd rather want a PS5.
Series X is pretty expensive, at least in my country.
If I wanted a ps5, I wouldn't buy the competing console unless I don't care about the exclusives.
Helghan
Member
Producing them sure, but selling them is a different story. What games do they have coming out in the next 6 months that are worth it? Compared to Sony who has 2 heavy hitters come out in the first 6 months. Second half of the year is a different story though.
LordBlodgett
Member
This is all on Series S, at least here in the US. My kids are 8 and 10, and I know of three of their classmates who got Series S for Christmas, as well as two of my family members who play casually (NBA2K and Fortnite), and then one of my friends got one for his kids with Gamepass. NeoGAF ignores kids and casuals, but the price and availability definitely gets it some sales. The other thing is how much smaller the APU is in it when compared to the PS5 or Series X, which makes it much easier to produce in quantity with the current chip shortage
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
I can’t wait for when the generation is over and microsoft sells considerably more than they did lastgen and the series s is seen as a different family Of consoles to the series x and they start splitting up the numbers, as we are already seeing it.
”well yeah, you COULD say the series consoles sold 80 million units but in reality it’s probably more like 50 million series s and 30 million series x. seeings though the series S is not a real console it means that MS only actually sold 30 million Xbox consoles this generation so they are actually down vs the Xbox one and an absolute failure chortle chortle”
I kid……..…..but someone will do it.
”well yeah, you COULD say the series consoles sold 80 million units but in reality it’s probably more like 50 million series s and 30 million series x. seeings though the series S is not a real console it means that MS only actually sold 30 million Xbox consoles this generation so they are actually down vs the Xbox one and an absolute failure chortle chortle”
I kid……..…..but someone will do it.
oldergamer
Member
I was predicting they were going to have sold 12 - 13 million a few week back. They had a really good quarter.
Kagey K
Banned
They are already trying to do it.
I saw someone argue it was 6 million Xbox sold vs 18 PS5 in one of the MS sales threads a while back.
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DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
well that’s just pathetic, we treat switch sales as switch sales. you don’t break them up by what is a switch lite, original switch or switch oled when discussing overall numbers.
you don’t say the PS4 didn’t hit 117 million units because 20 million are PS4 pro, same for Xbox one and one x/one s.
they are the same generation of console from that manufacturer.
some fans are weird.
Kagey K
Banned
I edited a link to it.
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ReBurn
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the "you have to divide series sales by two" was my favorite partI edited a link to it.
Dr Bass
Member
I don't think it happens that often, certainly not enough to change directions in console sales.
People generally want software. They don't desire "the box." They want the experience that particular box can give them. Only a tiny select percentage of customers are idiots who crave ownership of a plastic box first and foremost.
Series S was a great idea though. Not everyone cares about hi res 4k (which goes back to my point that people mostly just want the experience of the software), and they are readily available everywhere here in SoCal. Cheaper and easier to produce. Cheaper to buy. Available on shelves. Of course the Series S will appeal to a slice of customers.
kraspkibble
Permabanned.
cAn'T SeLl WhAt U caNt mAAke
doubt it but they really should've. the ps5 digital isn't cheap enough. it's basically just a PS5 without a disc drive. there's only so much they could cut off the cost. sony should've put out a PS5 lite with a less powerful GPU and small capacity SSD. MS really nailed it with Series S.
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Okay, my reasons (if I can remember them, it's been about 9 months lol)
I was very tired of last-gen load times and textures. I wanted to move on. Unlike a lot of console owners, I do care about visuals and performance. That made me want to buy into next-gen.
Secondly, I play plenty of 3rd party games. I was interested in playing Res Evil Village and Hitman 3 and Hades, and thought it would be nice to do so on a next-gen box.
Thirdly, I really wanted to try Forza Horizon and Microsoft Flight Sim.
Fourthly, I knew that the big PS games would come to PS4 Pro for another year or so if I just HAD to play them.
Fifthly, I enjoy Bethesda games and knew that eventually I'd need an Xbox to play them. (And it ended up introducing me to Prey - holy SHIT what a game.)
Sixthly, I am seriously unimpressed with the PS5 as a physical device and am happy to wait for a "PS5 slim", whereas the XSX is a really good looking, silent piece of kit.
Lastly, I was interested in whether game pass really would be a huge savings for me. (And it has been.)
I've always preferred PS over Xbox due to the exclusives, but PS tastes have changed over time. I loved MGS, Final Fantasy, WipeOut. Sony these days is Last of Us, God of War and Spiderman. It's not quite the same. There are still traces of that classic Sony - Astro Bot on PSVR being the best example, it's a masterpiece - but they've lost me a little bit over time.
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Lognor
Banned
Which is just as difficult to manufacture with current supply constraints. So it ain't really helping
ZywyPL
Banned
They had a supply drop somewhere in November didn't they? Plus Forza and Halo did they part, so did GP. As oppose to previous gen's launch, MS is doing all the right moves this time around.
With close to 100$ games, no thanks. Without regional pricing DE it's easily the absolute worst offer of this gen.
With close to 100$ games, no thanks. Without regional pricing DE it's easily the absolute worst offer of this gen.