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[KoopaTheCasual]

No batteries available day one?

Batteries actually cease to exist on November 22nd. Megaton.

 

[Mr.Speedy]

Controller is fine(related though).

Play and charge kit delayed?

 

[digoutyoursoul]

Probably, I believe someone else in this thread mentioned that they heard some "things" about Kinect and they were waiting to see if it was true. That would be total ass for MS.

Well let's see what tommorow brings. Personally it's the one thing stopping me from buying the system.

 

[Bgamer90]

Controller is fine(related though).

I'm guessing that kinect will be required if you want to play local multiplayer (kinect sign in and controller swap features).

 

[Gestault]

For the record, there are plenty of people split on the new Xbox controller - including many long time Xbox fans. It's actually dividing those who utilize it fairly well. I can post you many articles, some from some major places, discussing the issues some people have with it.

But this is what I mean: we have expectations we bring into this discussion, instead of saying why the actual details are objectionable.

Let's say you played the PS4 controller and passionately disagreed with the praise it has been receiving. You went on to list several reasons why. Now, most people can say "Well, that's contrary the almost every report I've seen on the controller" - and that statement would actually be true. But does that mean we say 'oh i just don't get it this guy is so crazy' or do you say 'well I really disagree with your criticisms of the DS4 because contrary to what I've read and heard, when I used it my hands sat awkwardly on the grips. Similarly, your assertion that the triggers are a substantial improvement seemed bizarre. While they definitely are superior to the PS3 controller's buttons, it is still a far cry from what they had on the Xbox 360.'


One such line of thought actually pushes the ball forward in a conversation; the other is just petulant witch hunting.

Maybe you were reacting more broadly, but you did see that the first half my my statement was that my issue came from his lack of first-hand details, not that it was negative, right? Also, if you have links to some of those negative reactions to the controller, I'd be interested (I know it would take some footwork, so don't worry if you don't). I haven't come across any that said, in effect, "this is worse than the current form of the controller." That was the impression I got from OP's comments.

If you were saying that my comment came off as "petulant witch hunting," I'll happily take you to the mat on it.

 

[SeanR1221]

Batteries actually cease to exist on November 22nd. Megaton.

Quickly! To costco everyone!!!!

 

[netBuff]

I like the bolded part. Honestly, even though I gave you flak in my first post in this thread, if your OP had been filled with more observations like this, rather than vague "looks like last gen" comments, then I wouldn't have ribbed you. This is something that I've also seen in several screens and videos for Xbox One games (Forza, I'm looking at you, you jaggy SOB). I agree that Dead Rising doesn't look too stunning, but making a claim like that usually should be backed up with specifics to avoid people lambasting your post.

In other words, if you had made your argument more precise, instead of using vague generalizations, it would have been harder for people to argue with what you had said, regardless of your post history.

Sorry for immediately jumping down your throat, by the way. The OP just seems a bit bait-y.

Feel free to viciously attack my postings at any time, I can handle it

The reasons I didn't go into exact specifics in regards to things like aliasing, or what seemed to be frame drops or just the game hanging for a split-second in Ryse, are the fact that, for one, I'm not enough of a techy to exactly quantify what is wrong with a specific game just from looking at/playing it on a show floor and, on the other hand, I realize that these are pre-release builds and, therefore, such details are bound to get better.

But my impression after this event is that, even if graphics improve by a bit, it's a huge step away from the improvement I was expecting to see. And with the low resolution many games on Xbox One will be running at, at least aliasing is not going away.

My intention was to convey a general sense of my experience with the console and games: A rather negative impression.

And there will be entertainment, the big dukeroo, with Xbox fanboys in one corner and in the other corner the man who has just brought real terror to the Xbox One launch. netBuff.

lol

 

[viveks86]

I've seen his posts. He openly hates Microsoft and the Xbox One, and has told people that do like the Xbox One that they're paid shills.

Why are only a very few people questioning his credibility then? Everyone's already busy speculating what could be wrong?

 

[something fishy]

Problem with going in expecting not to like something and to love somethng else is that confirmation bias will kick in.

I'm waiting for impressions from those who haven't a stated obvious preference.

I want shinobis genuine impressions if he plays it.

 

[UNCMark]

And yet.... XD

Doesn't bother me what you hate and love. It just means your opinion means nothing to me. Doesn't mean that whatever news you purport to have is any less real or newsworthy.

 

[SEGAvangelist]

Why are only a very few people questioning his credibility then? Everyone's already busy speculating what could be wrong?

Because news is news! lol

 

[Amir0x]

I wont take opinions seriously from people who cant manage anything remotely positive.

Being positive just to be positive has zero value to any thinking individual. If someone has something actually positive to share, they should share it. Otherwise, pretending something deserves a shred of positivity if you legitimately don't think it does is worthless to everyone involved (Note: I'm not saying XBO doesn't deserve praise. Quite the contrary... my two most anticipated next-gen games are on the system, for example, with Forza 5 and Crimson Dragon. I'm saying if we went to that extreme, a person should not feign positivity and it does not devalue their merit for it.) Criticism is the most powerful tool any consumer has.

On NeoGaf people like to hate plain and simple. You might not want to admit it, but they do. Ive been pretty logical because i understand the fact that it might be a hobby to most here but its also a business to them. I dont hate for no reason and especially don't hate just cause its from company A.

This is your problem in a nutshell - you assume people are HATING FOR NO REASON. You say "its been months", refusing to acknowledge all the massive issues Microsoft has had since then.

This is why this ends up frustrating. It's not that Xbox One can't be your platform of choice, isn't awesome, isn't worth money. It's that some of those who are sticking to that boat refuse to accept the reality of what Microsoft deserved and still in many ways deserves.

Same as Sony deserves and will continue to deserve shit for a while if DriveClub is delayed and they have no free game to replace it.

 

[LNBL]

Everyone has his preferences and dislikes. I actually think that the Forze gameplay that i saw 2 weeks ago was pretty amazing and the controller felt great.

 

[UNCMark]

Why are only a very few people questioning his credibility then? Everyone's already busy speculating what could be wrong?

He's not offering a negative opinion. Just news. Big difference. If he was offering an opinion, he'd be summarily dismissed. For good reason.

 

[zackmorris]

Which next-gen launch title on either platform has anyone been blown away by? Maybe I'm missing something, but so far no games have really made me think "they needed new consoles for this!". I don't think its the fault of the consoles and I'm sure in a year the difference will be massive, but right now? Not so much IMO. Also I am getting a PS4 at launch and still have a X Box one preordered, so I'm not bashing next gen, just saying neither console has blown me away at this point.

 

[jbug617]

Controller is fine(related though).

My guess they were suppose to have an adapter for the headsets but they really haven't talked about it since then. Either it's delay or cost too much.

 

[jaypah]

I've seen his posts. He openly hates Microsoft and the Xbox One, and has told people that do like the Xbox One that they're paid shills.

This is true. Doesn't mean he doesn't have legit info though. CBOAT doesn't seem to like MS much but he drops bombs like whoa.

 

[xxracerxx]

I sometimes wonder if people keep physical lists of posters they find to hold the opposite view of their own, so that they can call them out.

 

[Doffen]

I've seen his posts. He openly hates Microsoft and the Xbox One, and has told people that do like the Xbox One that they're paid shills.

I wish I was a paid shill. You hear me, Microsoft?

 

[digoutyoursoul]

Which next-gen launch title on either platform has anyone been blown away by? Maybe I'm missing something, but so far no games have really made me think "they needed new consoles for this!". I don't think its the fault of the consoles and I'm sure in a year the difference will be massive, but right now? Not so much IMO. Also I am getting a PS4 at launch and still have a X Box one preordered, so I'm not bashing next gen, just saying neither console has blown me away at this point.

Killzone, Ryse and Forza. I also like Resogun simply because of the colours, so pretty.

 

[quickwhips]

Ahhhhh it sounds like something that should be free but isnt and they are making it proprietary !?

dat headset shortage.

 

[UNCMark]

Which next-gen launch title on either platform has anyone been blown away by? Maybe I'm missing something, but so far no games have really made me think "they needed new consoles for this!". I don't think its the fault of the consoles and I'm sure in a year the difference will be massive, but right now? Not so much IMO. Also I am getting a PS4 at launch and still have a X Box one preordered, so I'm not bashing next gen, just saying neither console has blown me away at this point.

Launch titles? I'd say none. The one playable game that consistently blew the press and gamers away isn't a launch title (Titanfall).

 

[Rolf NB]

Hardware, but not the console.

Shipping with no controller. Just use your Wiimote. You have a Wiimote, right?

 

[SRTtoZ]

Since the OP got bashed a bunch, I'll leave this for him. There is going to be some pretty negative XBOX ONE related news tomorrow.

Just refreshed! WHAT IS THIS MAGIC?

 

[viveks86]

Because news is news! lol

LOL. I'm staying the heck away from this conversation unless someone knows he is legit

 

[Milennia]

Why are only a very few people questioning his credibility then? Everyone's already busy speculating what could be wrong?

Apologies, took this out of context.
Nvm

 

[digoutyoursoul]

Shipping with no controller. Just use your Wiimote. You have a Wiimote, right?

Fuck Wiimote, has to be Penis with Kinect.

 

[jbug617]

Just refreshed! WHAT IS THIS MAGIC?

something you might have to pay extra for concerning your controller.

 

[UNCMark]

Just refreshed! WHAT IS THIS MAGIC?

Pokemon used up the worlds supplies of X and Y, which has led to Xbox One controller yield issues.

I can care less about his post history, the op gives a detailed report on someones impressions on a console i ( and many others) havent even seen , much less played at all.

Ill take all the impressions i can get and avoid needless arguing and jumping to conclusions.

These products are built on many peoples opinions anyway.

He's referring to Juancho.

 

[SEGAvangelist]

LOL. I'm staying the heck away from this conversation unless someone knows he is legit

I'm sure the mods are watching.

 

[Atlas157]

I went to an Xbox One Tour here in Miami, Forza 5 does looks pretty good but I'd say it's nothing to write home about. Ryse also looks good, but I don't like the gameplay much.

The controller however, felt too cramped for my hands and the sticks did feel weird, and so did the triggers.

I'm still not convinced about the Xbox One yet, all of the negative rumors about the underpowered hardware and having the worst versions of multiplatform titles have really turned me off. The Kinect being forcefully bundled with it also bothers me because I won't be using it at all.

Unless MS comes out with something truly ground breaking for it, I'm not spending $500 on a system with half assed hardware.

 

[Bgamer90]

Anyway, I'm quite familiar with how the OP felt about the Xbox One previously (was way more than just "this console used to have DRM").

Overall as someone else said, more detailed information that further supported the opinion(s) would have been nice. The title of the thread hurts things too... Could have just been "my Xbox one impressions" -- "highly disappointed..." obviously gets more attention.

 

[Rolf NB]

I sometimes wonder if people keep physical lists of posters they find to hold the opposite view of their own, so that they can call them out.

Too much work. You can just dismiss everyone who posts something you don't want to hear as a terrible person. Same result, and without the list.

 

[Naminator]

Hi everyone!

Recently, I had the chance to play the Xbox One and its launch games on an event floor at an Xbox Tour event in my region. I returned being highly disappointed in the system: Even knowing the Xbox One isn’t going to be the most powerful of consoles, I expected much bigger a graphical improvement than I got to see with my own eyes.

Even Ryse's and Forza 5's gameplay visuals didn't strike me as a breakthrough, they seemed more of a refinement of current generation graphics than the great leap that I expected to experience after eight years. Battlefield 4 looked downright terrible (and Kinect leaning constantly interfered with unimpeded gamepad gameplay - I finally put a carton in front of the sensor to get a good go at the game), FIFA 14 didn't seem noticeably different from current gen and even Dead Rising only looked so-so.

Another thing to dislike about the Xbox One was the controller: The shape of the lower grips made it uncomfortable to hold, the sticks seemed too tiny and the bumpers were just strange (the amount of force needed to press them just didn't seem right/comfortable).

The Kinect only games on display were on an equal footing with current gen Kinect in terms of gameplay. The increased recognition fidelity wasn't immediately noticeable or beneficial in these games. The console itself seemed pretty clunky and big, and Kinect is a huge monster of a camera bar.

People that recognize my username on this forum may realize that I've preferred the PS4 to the Xbox One for a long time now for rational reasons (better performance, more interesting line up, cheaper): Even then, I didn't expect to get this negative an impression out of this event – it’s kind of shocking, really.

What were other Gaffer's impressions of their play experience? Do you expect people will be disappointed at launch time with the general lack of a visual fidelity leap?

Ahahahahahahahah, the fact that YOU went away with a negative impression is not shocking in the least bit.

I didn't get to play on any of the next-gen consoles yet, but as a PC gamer who games of 1440p 60FPS in my singleplayer games I don't think I'll be impressed with anything coming from these "Next-gen" systems for a few years.

 

[viveks86]

He's not offering a negative opinion. Just news. Big difference. If he was offering an opinion, he'd be summarily dismissed. For good reason.

Doesn't "news" require credibility more than negative opinion? Opinions are subjective and hence should be acceptable. "News" needs to be legitimate right?

 

[Sword Of Doom]

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I found this on an xbox forum. It looks smaller.

Less width but much bulkier overall

 

[UNCMark]

Doesn't "news" require credibility more than negative opinion? Opinions are subjective and hence should be acceptable. "News" needs to be legitimate right?

You're 100 percent correct, and I'd imagine Bish or one of the other mods is handling that.

 

[Troll]

What is this thread about

 

[Milennia]

Pokemon used up the worlds supplies of X and Y, which has led to Xbox One controller yield issues.



He's referring to Juancho.

Ah, well in which case sure, i too will be skeptical , but will still listen to what he has to say as im interested

Thanks for pointing that out.

 

[Satchel]

I sometimes wonder if people keep physical lists of posters they find to hold the opposite view of their own, so that they can call them out.

There's a difference between an "opposing view" and posters with an agenda.

Big difference.

 

[fluffydelusions]

Where is major nelson

 

[viveks86]

I can care less about his post history, the op gives a detailed report on someones impressions on a console i ( and many others) havent even seen , much less played at all.

Ill take all the impressions i can get and avoid needless arguing and jumping to conclusions.

These products are built on many peoples opinions anyway.

Huh? I'm confused. I'm talking about Juancho. Not the OP. I'm not arguing about the point of this thread at all.

EDIT: Beaten. Thanks UNCMark.

 

[Ryaaan14]

This is pretty damning evidence for the Xbone

 

[MMaRsu]

Ahahahahahahahah, the fact that YOU went away with a negative impression is not shocking in the least bit.

I didn't get to play on any of the next-gen consoles yet, but as a PC gamer who games of 1440p 60FPS in my singleplayer games I don't think I'll be impressed with anything coming from these "Next-gen" systems for a few years.

Sure..sounds like some straight A bullshit.

 

[Tomcat]

What is this thread about

its a gamefaq thread so you know...

 

[Chief Icaroc]

This was bugging me from yesterday so I am going to post this massive response against my better judgement.

Albert Penello completely misunderstood what I wrote: I responded to someone expecting the Kinect to hypothetically automatically log someone in on someone else's consoles without prior authentication of any sort, which is pretty much impossible to do without having a huge amount of false positives with the current state of face recognition.

Even if he says he misunderstood you here, I still think your post is literally wrong. You wrote:

This is literally impossible, it's not a question of whether MS wants to or not. The failure rate with biometric recognition is much too high for such a feature to work in any way.

Without even thinking for too long, you can come up with ways of doing this, especially in the way that the poster you were referring to was suggesting: (Emphasis Mine)

Will Kinect be connected to the cloud services and recognize you on other people's Xboxes without you doing anything beforehand/the first time? That'd be both freaky and cool at the same time.

Say you walk into a buddy's living room and the Xbox notices it's you and asks you if you want to sign in your profile.

Thinking of it, that'll be a 2015 feature for sure once the 2014 backlog is out of the way.

It is entirely plausible that the Kinect could recognize you without ever logging in, ESPECIALLY in "your buddy's living room".

• It could leverage that person's friends list of 1000 people easily to do so.
• It could use your smart glass application on your phone should that smartglass app be able to have access to your location.
• It could use the zipcode from you xbox live billing address to compile a list of likely people (would be a huge list)

You're welcome for the ideas Albert, Lemme know if you need my address to send me that royalty check.....

The new kinect looks slick. The possibilities that it has are really cool. I want to have one around so that I can see what gets enabled for it in the next 7 years. Most of the kinect features are novel now I agree especially for core gamers. Personally, I like the one I have in my (kinect friendly) living room now. The kids love playing kinect party. Mass Effect 3 voice commands were cool. Do I use it for everything? Of course not. Is it easy to bash on for some of it's jank? Of course it is. EDIT: Are you entitled to your opinion? Of course you are. Edit 2: Check my post history, I am positive about most things, which means recently lots of positive posts about Xbox....

 

[Milennia]

Huh? I'm confused. I'm talking about Juancho. Not the OP. I'm not arguing about the point of this thread at all.

EDIT: Beaten. Thanks UNCMark.

In the middle of editing, sorry took your statement out of context.

 

[CaptNink]

I mean, it's not something that will be a huge deal for every single XBOX ONE owner unless you were looking forward to adding some extra items to your cart on launch, and not like the system won't have one in the box. Ok, not saying anymore. Sorry.

What's the deal with all the 'Cloak-and-Dagger' crap? Why can't you just say what you have to say and quit teasing us?

 

[FullMetaltech]

What is this thread about

Clowns. Thats what im getting from all this. lol

 

[Anticitizen One]

Since the OP got bashed a bunch, I'll leave this for him. There is going to be some pretty negative XBOX ONE related news tomorrow.