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Xbox One Tour - Highly disappointed in system and graphics
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not a single chance in hell.
Crysis on ultra settings? I doubt you have seen that in action if you compare the two.
The_Holy_Puck
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Wow.. Horrid idea in the making.
The best looking games are always the first games at the start of a console's life....
Nocturno999
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Agreed completely.
Dictator93
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They are made of pieces which are folding and out of themselves.
You know what I'm talking about. It doesn't matter if it's this guy or another, you label GAF entirely with this same brush and you've done it in thread after thread. This is simply a highlight of your expectations.
Silly.Mikey said:
Instead of responding to specific critiques, people in this topic continually try to slam the individual making them instead of saying whether they have any merit or why not. That is what contributes to a conversation.
This guy, I'm not familiar with him, he could be the world's biggest Sonybot. But the point I'm making is you only have skepticism because it's about something you want, not because you are legitimately questioning motives. I can count the number of times you've done this same general thing since the May 21 reveal, it's gotta be dozens of times. And what I'm saying is you'd get more mileage if you stopped to address the criticisms instead of trying to find some ulterior motive. Whether that ulterior motive exists or not is irrelevant if the points themselves have merit. It doesn't matter who delivers the message if the message itself has merit. Do you disagree? Then say why. Stop trying to always act like everyone just has it out for Xbox.
And yes, there's plenty of people in the world who might not find much positive to say at a simple console tour. I've had similar negative experiences at such things in the past where I would have had very little nice to say about the system I was playing there.
This type of complaint seems very bizarre to me.
I did go in expecting to see "next gen", something that might excite me to buy an Xbox One anyway - even though I didn't see much that interested me in the system beforehand.
Being "unbiased" doesn't mean "having no preference": The PS4 seems clearly superior in many ways to me, that's just the way it is. There isn't some magical parallel-universe middle ground where both systems are at an equilibrium. MS has the weaker offering, plain and simple.
So we're supposed to give people respect just because they put effort in making a thread even if they're 100 % biased, and are only out to spread an agenda? I'm asking again, why didn't the OP post his impressions in the two threads related to the tour? Why start a new thread? I already know the answer, but I'm dying to get to know yours.
Shoulder plates are just such a weird, nitpicky thing to bring up
I think everyone is just on edge because we're so close to next gen.
Perfect haha
Again: "Being biased" isn't the same as "having a preference for the, in my opinion, better system".
Yes, aliasing was extremely prevalent.
Brizzo24
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Diprosalic
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i had the same impressions while playing the PS4 launch games. AssCreed, Knack, DriveClub all looked very "meh".
Well it's a good thing i can wait till the good (looking) games come out.
Well it's a good thing i can wait till the good (looking) games come out.
Napalm_Frank
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Haha Albert won't give this poor guy a break. And for that, I thank you!
bleachrude
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Eh...tend to disagree about that.
I distinctly remember people complaining that Kameo for example, didn't look as impressive as the late PS2 era FF XII.
I love how you ignored the question in my post.
Your meme creator needs a spellchecker.
la flama blanca
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Since the OP got bashed a bunch, I'll leave this for him. There is going to be some pretty negative XBOX ONE related news tomorrow.
Speedy Blue Dude
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Yeah Utah got completely snubbed for no reason. Its lame. :/ Now we have to wait a Kiosk to show up at BestBuy or something.
digoutyoursoul
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Hardware or software related ?
SEGAvangelist
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Kameo looked awesome at launch in HD. FFXII was a grainy mess in comparison. That's a surprising comparison to me.
OP redeemed!
Commanche Raisin Toast
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You're right, it is. I guess I just saw it as a simple retort to the helmet snap thing. Like "I also spotted something odd".
I too am getting anxious. I get really cranky and over-analytical when I'm anxious so I apologize for complaining in threads so much lately.
This doesn't work at all he's going into the building.
The 12% reduced shipment forecast?
Kacho
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What is this voodoo?!
I actually liked the controller, coming from this current generation wasn't a big fan of the 360 controller due to the battery pack and also huge shape of it. My hands are similar size to womens hands which meant the fit for the dualshock 3 and past controllers were perfect. When i played the Xbox One at Eurogamer i thought it was very comfortable a much better improvement over the 360 controller really love the small analogue sticks.
Miles Quaritch
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You can't just post something like that and not give us a hint. Hardware or Software related?
SEGAvangelist
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Got some insider stuff?
I think it's fair to criticize a few things here:
For one, his writeup took time to react to games, but not mention which games they were (the Kinect games, for example). Thankfully through questions in the thread, he's mostly addressed that (an update to the original post might be useful in that area). This sort of jumping around in terms of details persisted even in things like saying "my region" for where the event was being held. I think this was where a lot of the scrutiny came from: he didn't mention details that would be novel compared to what we've seen demoed elsewhere, and frankly ran contrary to every previous reaction I've seen for things like the controller. His reactions were effectively indistinguishable from his previous criticisms, except that here he said things were even worse.
And yes, his post history (and the embedded language in the writing itself) does have bearing on how people should react to his perspective. When someone who has categorically dismissed the platform in the past makes a writeup where a single positive comment can't be mustered amidst some vague details, I raise an eyebrow. This doesn't mean "I demand a more positive outlook." It basically means if someone has a history of borderline irrational distaste for something arrives at the conslusion that it was actually much worse than he expected, without any contrasting suggestions of what he would like more of, I don't gain much from that. There are plenty of people who I disagree with whose point of view is still useful, because there's consistency in it.
So I guess my view is that when we've seen and heard things from trustworthy sources that have very different takeaways from what we're seeing here, I take that into account. I would have liked more details, and not to surreptitiously look for ways to discredit the OP.
For one, his writeup took time to react to games, but not mention which games they were (the Kinect games, for example). Thankfully through questions in the thread, he's mostly addressed that (an update to the original post might be useful in that area). This sort of jumping around in terms of details persisted even in things like saying "my region" for where the event was being held. I think this was where a lot of the scrutiny came from: he didn't mention details that would be novel compared to what we've seen demoed elsewhere, and frankly ran contrary to every previous reaction I've seen for things like the controller. His reactions were effectively indistinguishable from his previous criticisms, except that here he said things were even worse.
And yes, his post history (and the embedded language in the writing itself) does have bearing on how people should react to his perspective. When someone who has categorically dismissed the platform in the past makes a writeup where a single positive comment can't be mustered amidst some vague details, I raise an eyebrow. This doesn't mean "I demand a more positive outlook." It basically means if someone has a history of borderline irrational distaste for something arrives at the conslusion that it was actually much worse than he expected, without any contrasting suggestions of what he would like more of, I don't gain much from that. There are plenty of people who I disagree with whose point of view is still useful, because there's consistency in it.
So I guess my view is that when we've seen and heard things from trustworthy sources that have very different takeaways from what we're seeing here, I take that into account. I would have liked more details, and not to surreptitiously look for ways to discredit the OP.
Napalm_Frank
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Who is this person?
NoMoreTrolls
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I like the bolded part. Honestly, even though I gave you flak in my first post in this thread, if your OP had been filled with more observations like this, rather than vague "looks like last gen" comments, then I wouldn't have ribbed you. This is something that I've also seen in several screens and videos for Xbox One games (Forza, I'm looking at you, you jaggy SOB). I agree that Dead Rising doesn't look too stunning, but making a claim like that usually should be backed up with specifics to avoid people lambasting your post.
In other words, if you had made your argument more precise, instead of using vague generalizations, it would have been harder for people to argue with what you had said, regardless of your post history.
Sorry for immediately jumping down your throat, by the way. The OP just seems a bit bait-y.
SEGAvangelist
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I would believe all of this. lol
Kameo was a mixed bag, but it had plenty moments that were very clearly beyond the capabilities of previous gen hardware.
FFXII had fantastic art direction and it looked impressive, but in all the 50+ hours I put on it I never remember thinking it was something PS2/Xbox/GC couldn't handle.
Hardware, feature or game related?
No that should not be "/thread" by itself. Almost everyone on this board has preferences and their impressions shouldn't automatically be discounted if they seem like legit impressions.
Man-is-Obsolete
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Launch game demos that are most likely months old are bound to disappoint many. For both systems. not trying to be an apologist, but I doubt any of the studios with games being released at launch have time to cut a current demo.
First impressions are meaningful, but not everything. So then they are left with tough choices as to what they demo, because they need to have something. What really hurts Sony and MS is that their best games to show off are M rated, so they can't in stores.
The truth is those first impressions won't mean squat a year from now when more polished titles are released. Just like previous gens we will look back at the launch titles and be amazed how far everything has come. I still find it funny people thought the QD Audition tech demo would never be achieved in the current gen and today that looks laughable by current gen standards. But I can totally understand people holding out for the second wave of titles, I am just surprised so many were expecting the moon at launch.
First impressions are meaningful, but not everything. So then they are left with tough choices as to what they demo, because they need to have something. What really hurts Sony and MS is that their best games to show off are M rated, so they can't in stores.
The truth is those first impressions won't mean squat a year from now when more polished titles are released. Just like previous gens we will look back at the launch titles and be amazed how far everything has come. I still find it funny people thought the QD Audition tech demo would never be achieved in the current gen and today that looks laughable by current gen standards. But I can totally understand people holding out for the second wave of titles, I am just surprised so many were expecting the moon at launch.
la flama blanca
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Hardware, but not the console.
mysteriousmage09
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Speak.
So just a regular day then?
NullPointer
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Yep. If anything its better to be upfront about your biases and expectations than to pretend to be purely objective.
I'm sure there are a lot of gamers out there who feel the Xbox (and/or PS4) has to prove itself.
The_Holy_Puck
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Care to elaborate..
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