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Metal Gear Solid V The Phantom Pain E3 Full Gameplay Demo [Up: NEW official version!]
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Too funny! LMAO!
Loved everything besides the Fulton system, wish they would cancel it and think about other ways to recruit soldiers, it's too much OP.
Graphics are wonderful, gameplay is the best ever seen in MGS, really liked the Mother Base uses such as Intel, R&D, fire support etc, adds a nice strategic layer.
The only thing that worries me is that Kojima said that missions will remain basic like gather Intel and such, I really enjoyed some of the more interesting mission design in previous MGS games.
Graphics are wonderful, gameplay is the best ever seen in MGS, really liked the Mother Base uses such as Intel, R&D, fire support etc, adds a nice strategic layer.
The only thing that worries me is that Kojima said that missions will remain basic like gather Intel and such, I really enjoyed some of the more interesting mission design in previous MGS games.
The only required title for The Phantom Pain I would recommend is Ground Zeroes, as together the two games make up the MGSV "experience". The effects of GZ tie directly into TPP and it has a pretty comprehensive synopsis of the events of Peace Walker in GZ.
Otherwise if you are interested in playing one of the most influential game series of all time, there's always the HD Collection.
ffejeromdiks
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As for the colors, they might have just changed the time of day that the cutscene starts.
Love Deterrence
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You can always throw them in a chopper or drive them out of the mission area (assuming The Phantom Pain removes the Out of Bounds restriction during certain missions).
The lighting was the most impressive thing about the video, take a look at the shadows that get cast through the smoke when Snake fultons the crate and tries to fulton the solider inside near the end.
That's the CQC icon, either it means you can salute comrades or you can CQC their asses.
I think what you see there is the Fulton in concept.
Having each Fulton attempt cost a certain amount of GP will reduce its effectiveness as will that % you see every time he uses it. 80% means 1 out of every 5 attempts the target will not be captured and be lost/killed in the process. That % will change based on certain conditions as well, like sandstorms.
So does all the noise and obvious visual presence of the Fulton system go unnoticed unless the enemy is literally right on top of you?
At one point it looked like you were prompted to salute back by pressing r2.
Was it a prompt for a salute, or was it just CQC?
Haven't played any at all, I assume it is obvious to everyone why cardboard boxes drop from the sky and why stuff flies away with balloons? Not knowing much about MGS the footage kinda feels like it was some strange parody movie.
Graphically, still the horses butts look like plastic, besides that it looks OK.
I think here's a good place to mention that anything in the gameplay demo is not final and is subject to possible change before the released version.
(INDUSTRY STANDARD MESSAGING)â Narayan
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Very impressed with everything shown. Can't wait to play it!
How About No
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I'm Fultoning ALL the sheep in Afghanistan. My motherbase will be like Noah's Ark with with more AK-47s
Not sure if this was mentioned before, but the fact that you can drop items on the heads of enemies is not only hilarious but another cool possibility to take someone out without causing too much alarm and noise.
I wonder how enemies will react to flying items on higher difficulties though. Will they notice them and shoot the items? I'd like seeing them being able to ruin your plans in certain, natural ways.
I wonder how enemies will react to flying items on higher difficulties though. Will they notice them and shoot the items? I'd like seeing them being able to ruin your plans in certain, natural ways.
Byakuya769
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Hahahahaha.
FloweryMarston
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maybe at the beginning of the game you salute them, but when big boss becomes a demon, he CQC even the sheep. ;_;7
Also, next year is going to be a bloodbath. the goty awards are going to be seriously packed. We have MGS V, witcher 3, bloodporn, zelda, batman, uncharted 4, mortal kombat X, splatoon, star fox, yoshi woolly world, no man's sky, cuphead. Just add a rockstar release( AGENT! ;_
, and i will have a serious hard time choosing my game of the year.I think here's a good place to mention that anything in the gameplay demo is not final and is subject to possible change before the released version.
This. Hayter was terrible in PW. I am so happy with the change and I love Kiefer Sutherland.
Those who didn't play Peace Walker wouldn't understand that things won't be as simple as they seem to be. Of course there will be restrictions. Do you remember when the silencer on the tranquilizer gun worned out after some shots? That's because it was lvl 1 and you had to upgrade it. It takes GMP to do so. Did you notice that Snake's tranquilizer gun has a suppressor on it in TPP unlike Ground Zeroes?
Thank you for the clarification, game looks amazing and i can't wait to have my hands on it!
I think, considering how he saw the same footage as the rest of us, he misinterpreted that scene at the end of the mission, where the alert went off.
Trust me when I say (and I believe many would agree) that the Fulton system is a little more eloquent than the recruitment system in Portable Ops. Balloons and helicopters is preferred to dragging people to an anchored drop off spot.
This.
I know fulton is very showy but I really don't mind it as the alternative was much worse. I'm not sure there's a better way for them to do it without over burdening and annoying the player
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Amon-Lau
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Is it possible that there may be a usage limit in the finished game as well? That would really rectify most if not all of the problems I have with it. In Peace Walker it's not so bad because you don't have enough fulton balloons to just clear the area, but it was still quite overpowered even then.
Having a cost + failure rate + maximum usage limit per mission would be perfect in my opinion. Still dynamic in the way that it may fail and weather will affect it, but stops you from abusing it and still realistically uses accumulated resources. If you had a set limit, you wouldn't be able to just clean the area of bodies like they do in the demo, making it extremely easy to sneak about.
The demo was constructed to try and show off functionality as it appears in the game right now without regard for gameplay balance.
I hope this clears things up.
EDIT: Made simpler.
Plasma Snake
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Please let us be able to do hard mode from the start. normal looks too easy =/
Yea, sounds reasonable. Now just give us a time frame for release and you are good to go
That's the CQC prompt. I think they would have shown off that little detail if it were there.
I have a feeling we have to wait longer for this game than "Early 2015"
I edited to boil down to the simplest concept. The demo wasn't built for balance, it was built for showing off functionality (which is true for ALL gameplay demos shown at E3, really).
That's fair enough, well hopefully some balancing can be done before launch.
The opinion that fulton is overpowered is quite unanimous in the thread I think, so it would be great if suggestions could be put forward. But I have no idea how one would go about that.
CosmicGroinPull
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"You have arrived at your destination" LOL
Send your suggestions to @HIDEO_KOJIMA_EN and @ken1555 . F'reals, they read it. Possibly more closely than my reports. ;_;
EDIT: I also meant to imply that any balancing currently in the game was removed for the sake of the demo.
Rogue Agent
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The ability to craft weapons and items from motherbase in realtime as well as everything you can do being based on currency reminds me of Drebin's Shop. I could be misremembering because I haven't played MGS4 in years, but wasn't that pretty exploitable in terms of how you could get as much ammo as you want so long as you grinded points/currency? In Peace Walker you had to choose what you were sent in with during the mission and that plus whatever was on the map was all you had. As cool as all this is, I kind of wish Fulton was a limited resource like PW and there's limits on the supply drops as well when using them during a mission otherwise I think they will be abused once people have a lot of money.
It is balanced. It costs money. You won't necessarily have tons of money at that point in the game and you could tie it up on research and production. This demo allowed them to use Fulton freely without regards to money.
I understand that everything is subject to change and that the demo was mostly used for demonstration purposes; I just hope that there's enough discussion about the fulton that makes the team really consider how to balance it.
Obviously there has to be a degree of fun allowed, because nobody wants to drag everything manually back to some pre-determined point. But it looks like there's currently no gameplay downsides to it, because you can clear away an entire area away, with no worrying about body placement or even triggering an alert. It both breaks the stealth aspect and the immersion.
I realize that it costs some abstract amount of money, but I think there needs to be more immediate in-the-moment consequences to it, like making more noise or attracting enemies' attention.
Also, the insta-alerts really need to be addressed, though I imagine that might require some huge rewriting of the way enemies interact.
Obviously there has to be a degree of fun allowed, because nobody wants to drag everything manually back to some pre-determined point. But it looks like there's currently no gameplay downsides to it, because you can clear away an entire area away, with no worrying about body placement or even triggering an alert. It both breaks the stealth aspect and the immersion.
I realize that it costs some abstract amount of money, but I think there needs to be more immediate in-the-moment consequences to it, like making more noise or attracting enemies' attention.
Also, the insta-alerts really need to be addressed, though I imagine that might require some huge rewriting of the way enemies interact.
I like the idea of it, personally, but I'm fine with it not being the case. Overall, though, I've never played these games for the story, so ti doesn't matter that much. I'm much more about the stealth.
Can you tell us if MGSV will be at Gamescom or TGS? Maybe a new trailer?
Anyway thanks a lot.
I wouldn't want to abuse your kindness, but, would you be able to tell us anything about the alert system? Is it going to be like in GZ, are there going to be different alert levels, or is the whole map just psychic when it comes to player detection?
For example, would being discovered by a guard stationed at an outpost alert the guards stationed at a base 1km away, or would we be able to deal with said guard even after he yelled "CONTACT" with no one around to hear him?
As long as you can tell me that it's subject to change, I guess it would make me feel a bit better
Kojipro bothered to create one hell of a coherent open world game and I can't imagine they'd oversee something that important.
Wishmaster92
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You can hide in a box or container and fulton your way to mother base and the ride is all in real time. Can't wait to do that.
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