ButchCat
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Ocelot comparison
Newer version has Unreal Engine-PS3 syndrome.
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Metal Gear Solid V The Phantom Pain E3 Full Gameplay Demo [Up: NEW official version!]
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Newer version has Unreal Engine-PS3 syndrome.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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MGSV Ocelot looks like will go through a lot of shit to become MGG1 Ocelot.
Stone Ocean
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You abort the mission if you fulton out.
And the failure chance should still apply, so you still won't be able to fulton out depending of the weather and you can probably just fall.
Wishmaster92
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I hate the muddiness in the first screenshot.
It looks like they reallocated resources because the 2013 ver might have a little more grass here and there, but the recent version has added geometry in the distance.
keltickennedy
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I may need to hook up my PS3 and play some Peacewalker HD this weekend. Would anyone else be down for co-op?
Ahh ok. Is it an abort even if you have completed the mission and you are trying to escape?
That was incredible. I need it now 
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Ground Zeroes has Normal and Hard difficulty for missions. They could easily implement a Fulton restriction for the Hard variant in The Phantom Pain. One or two per mission.
Peace Walker also had a limit on the number of soldiers you could Fulton. Mother Base would get full and Kaz would shout at you lol.
.Ground Zeroes has Normal and Hard difficulty for missions. They could easily implement a Fulton restriction for the Hard variant in The Phantom Pain. One or two per mission.
Peace Walker also had a limit on the number of soldiers you could Fulton. Mother Base would get full and Kaz would shout at you lol.
Rogue Agent
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2013 lighting is much more impressive.
TheMissingLink
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I really hate this trend of comparing games YoY and nitpicking differences.
They changed it, okay? It has been changed. Carry on!
They changed it, okay? It has been changed. Carry on!
Awesome demo, I need this game now, having just finished Ground Zeroes for $20 (perfect price for something "a little over a demo"). It has a great deal of value with all the Side Ops and trials.
I am going to be in the team that says we play Solid Snake near the end, and Sutherland is great, I don't have a problem with him. Boss' descent will be cool to play. I am not reading this thread through though haha, there will be the usual debates. The real action is The Phantom Pain story speculation, it's way more fun to discuss who Skull Face is then compare graphics.
I am going to be in the team that says we play Solid Snake near the end, and Sutherland is great, I don't have a problem with him. Boss' descent will be cool to play. I am not reading this thread through though haha, there will be the usual debates. The real action is The Phantom Pain story speculation, it's way more fun to discuss who Skull Face is then compare graphics.
Psycho_Mantis
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This looks stunning. Release date pleeeeeeease!
Cyborg
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I hate the muddiness in the first screenshot.
Love the color pattern in 2013 much much more. I really hope they adjust it
I think so too.
Wishmaster92
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Thankfully you will get the much more impressive lighting if you wait a couple of hours in realtime.
Beermeister
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Yeah really. This is why we can't have nice things.
Well Konami said nothing we see in this video is final.
Yup and is exactly why they keep things behind closed doors, stop the damn comparisons to a stream footage, enjoy the gameplay we got to see.
CambriaRising
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Maybe release a direct feed demonstration instead of on a pretty bad stream so we have better material to compare? I know that this is in the process of being done, but it seems weird to me that you wouldn't just do that in the first place.
I don't know, it seemed pretty clear to me from the video on gamespot. I'm still really excited about this game, I just really wish it wasn't shackled to the PS3/360.
E3 2013 trailer looks so much better.
Different TOD...
friskykillface
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I'd say March of 2015 at the latest B^)
One year anniversary of ground zeroes
Do it Konami, I want it sooner though
mgs2master2
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Seems pretty clear to me that the 2014 demo was just during a different time of the day.
True, that's a little too easy to abuse.
uomoartificiale
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About the lookof the game, I think it looks awesome as it is except for the foliage. In general it has a very consistent armonious look to it, plus it 60fps. The foliage seems to "hover" on top of the terrain though, like it's not really connecting. If they fix that it will truely be a wonderful looking game.
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Stealth_Cobra
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I really hate the Fulton. It was stupid in Peace Walker, but it's totally out of place here, in a realistic game showing the fall of Big Boss.
I'm going to reiterate the suggestion I did on their twitter...
Why not replace Fulton with electronic markers ? Basically, you put one of these on a soldier, vehicle or crate and eventually, Diamond Dogs soldiers come and pick it up. The percentage of success, in this case, would depend on how good of a job Big Boss did at clearing the area near the enemy of hostiles... If he takes out two anti-personal tanks, groups the downed soldiers together in a barely populated section of the map and triggers the extraction when nobody is in the immediate vicinity, the extraction is performed without a hitch.
Depending of how ambitious Kojima is about implementing the idea, the extraction could happen during or after the mission. If it's after, it would add a supplementary challenge, as enemies that awoke would no longer be extractable... If it's during the mission, it would require programming to show Diamond Dogs entering the level and picking up downed soldiers, perhaps bringing them to morpho or a chopper on foot... Or having a chopper land and grab a tank and extract it with a net... All in all, it would be alot less distracting than having enemies being extracted with a balloon.
And best of all, it would actually make the Diamond Dogs recruits feel alive and useful, as you could see them on the battlefield, even if they only give extraction support for downed foes. Big Boss still does all the heavy lifting, but with backup "gatherers" from the recon team bringing the spoils back after the mission.
Reminds me of how you could use your comrades in Portable Ops to bring many soldiers back to the truck. You would pile all unconscious guards near a comrade hiding in a cardboard box, then the guy could be radioed to extract all the soldiers.
I'm going to reiterate the suggestion I did on their twitter...
Why not replace Fulton with electronic markers ? Basically, you put one of these on a soldier, vehicle or crate and eventually, Diamond Dogs soldiers come and pick it up. The percentage of success, in this case, would depend on how good of a job Big Boss did at clearing the area near the enemy of hostiles... If he takes out two anti-personal tanks, groups the downed soldiers together in a barely populated section of the map and triggers the extraction when nobody is in the immediate vicinity, the extraction is performed without a hitch.
Depending of how ambitious Kojima is about implementing the idea, the extraction could happen during or after the mission. If it's after, it would add a supplementary challenge, as enemies that awoke would no longer be extractable... If it's during the mission, it would require programming to show Diamond Dogs entering the level and picking up downed soldiers, perhaps bringing them to morpho or a chopper on foot... Or having a chopper land and grab a tank and extract it with a net... All in all, it would be alot less distracting than having enemies being extracted with a balloon.
And best of all, it would actually make the Diamond Dogs recruits feel alive and useful, as you could see them on the battlefield, even if they only give extraction support for downed foes. Big Boss still does all the heavy lifting, but with backup "gatherers" from the recon team bringing the spoils back after the mission.
Reminds me of how you could use your comrades in Portable Ops to bring many soldiers back to the truck. You would pile all unconscious guards near a comrade hiding in a cardboard box, then the guy could be radioed to extract all the soldiers.
AHA-Lambda
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Snake's lack of talking is really awkward like, if this is the price they paid to get keifer sutherland then I think they made the wrong choice.
Beermeister
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Perfection! Haha
NullPointer
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My problem with it is that it seems like super easy mode.
Part of the difficulty in Ground Zeroes was that your non-lethal takedown targets would eventually wake up, so you had to had to move quickly. You could instead opt to kill and hide the bodies if you wanted something more permanent, and thus you got a use for some of the non-tranq weaponry. It made for a nice balance of risk and reward and morality choices.
But this Fulton thing is a quick and easy way to non-lethally remove enemies, vehicles and weapon emplacements from the map entirely. It seems like just another way to reduce the difficulty of the game dramatically (with enemy marking and reflex mode, etc), so I'd love to actually disable or severely limit its use when I play, as long as the game doesn't screw me over for it.
Sola Scriptura
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Does anyone else find the difference between MGS3 Ocelot and TPP Ocelot disconcerting? He's barely recognizable, IMO.
Stealth_Cobra
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I don't really get the lack of Big Boss's speech. Is Sutherland paid for every line of dialogue or what ?
I know they supposedly wanted the player to feel like Snake and having him a silent protagonist is apparently easier in an open-world game... But that kinda kills the character for me, as you could be playing any generic soldier... Wait, maybe that's the whole point, maybe they will push that stuff about using your random recruits again in TPP, which in turn would justify Big Boss having almost no spoken dialogue during gameplay... Cause it's stupid to have a Diamond Dogs soldier taking like Big Boss after all.
But the point is, I hate playing as random soldiers, and I want to play as Big Boss.
I know they supposedly wanted the player to feel like Snake and having him a silent protagonist is apparently easier in an open-world game... But that kinda kills the character for me, as you could be playing any generic soldier... Wait, maybe that's the whole point, maybe they will push that stuff about using your random recruits again in TPP, which in turn would justify Big Boss having almost no spoken dialogue during gameplay... Cause it's stupid to have a Diamond Dogs soldier taking like Big Boss after all.
But the point is, I hate playing as random soldiers, and I want to play as Big Boss.
I think it's still in. Definitely has dynamic weather anyways.
maybe there should be a disclaimer about the lighting in the OP because i see the next 5-10 pages going in circles
"WARNING: THE E3 2013 TRAILER AND THE CURRENT DEMO ARE SET AT DIFFERENT TIMES OF DAY WITH DIFFERENT WEATHER, IT IS UNCONFIRMED THAT THERE HAS BEEN A LIGHTING DOWNGRADE"
"WARNING: THE E3 2013 TRAILER AND THE CURRENT DEMO ARE SET AT DIFFERENT TIMES OF DAY WITH DIFFERENT WEATHER, IT IS UNCONFIRMED THAT THERE HAS BEEN A LIGHTING DOWNGRADE"
They are relying a lot on 3d scanning for MGS5 whereas they tried to stick closer to Shinkawas concepts in MGS3, which are very manga-esque in comparison.
Yes, but sky is clearly different in the two version we have seen (E3 2013 and this demonstration). The recent version looks exactly like it did in the Xbox One version of Ground Zeroes it seems, whereas before the clouds were supposed to be "dynamic" (not sure what this actually entailed).
I really liked the deeper blue and the clean gradient. Would be a shame if they removed that, since it added some extra punch to the environment.
No, not really. About 1 hour. Look at the shadow.
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Yeah it is. Ocelot is standing IN the shade in one of those pictures. Common dude
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