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TheKaeptain
Banned
Lang is a badass in the movie. One of the best villians ever.
Watched the documentary. Was surprisingly great. Lot of content and detail on all of the making-of stuff. I also liked the "real talk" with Cameron about all the criticisms places like gaf had with the first trailers and some of the simple story shit.
Also a pleasure to see everything shot in HD for bonus features. There also seems to be a substantial amount of other production features and various art on the discs.
Other than the poor cardboard packaging id say this is one of the best Blu-Ray releases so far.
Also a pleasure to see everything shot in HD for bonus features. There also seems to be a substantial amount of other production features and various art on the discs.
Other than the poor cardboard packaging id say this is one of the best Blu-Ray releases so far.
PhoncipleBone
Banned
The packaging is very pretty, but a pain in the ass to get to the discs easily. Funny how it uses more packaging material than a plastic case with a small flap.Dead said:
TacticalFox88
Banned
Would anyone mind if I uploaded the entire making of, to Youtube? May take a good while (a week or so), but it can be done.
Yep, my final opinion = Cameron should have never cut the Earth opening.
It works too damn well. The cut from the opening Pandora flyover sequence to Jake on the street is absolutely perfect. The music is excellent, love the intensity in Worthingtons eyes in the opening shot and I don't feel that the pacing suffers at all.
We also get an awesome extension to the spaceship takeoff, so thats a great bonus.
It works too damn well. The cut from the opening Pandora flyover sequence to Jake on the street is absolutely perfect. The music is excellent, love the intensity in Worthingtons eyes in the opening shot and I don't feel that the pacing suffers at all.
We also get an awesome extension to the spaceship takeoff, so thats a great bonus.
PhoncipleBone
Banned
I think Fox would care.TacticalFox88 said:
TheKaeptain
Banned
Dead said:
I feel the same way. Like I said above it also makes you understand why he helps them in the end.
TekkenMaster
Banned
I can't wait to see the Quaritch/Selfridge deleted scene and the acid trip / festival scene.
I should have known Amazon would fuck up my order and ship late.
I should have known Amazon would fuck up my order and ship late.
Haven't watched the new cut of the film, but I just finished the making of and every deleted scene.
That making of was amazing. The stuff the crew did for this film, the things the actors did to make this film and the things weta and ilm and everyone else did to make this happen is just beyond amazing. Based of all reports (I know we touched on this earlier in this thread somewhere :lol ) and watching this it really felt like everyone came together as one to complete this film. It actually seemed like they became a large family which makes me even more excited for the sequels if we get this passion again from everyone.
I agree with Dead in that they should NEVER have cut "You're a long way from Earth" scene or a few others. I really wish they would have finished the Festival and the hand holding scene before Jake gets his Ikran (which they briefly showed in the making of) along with the scene of Grace talking to Jake before his dream sequence and Jake admitting to them about working for Quaritch. There's more (some should have been cut, like the "Norm's a god" scene), but the above to me felt like they added so much more to the characters.
Either way so far this is by far the best blu-ray release yet. Will watch the extended cut tomorrow. I'm pretty damn excited to see Earth.
P.S. the "New Life" scene did not show Neytiri pregnant. It implies it sure by him putting his hand on her stomach, but it felt to me just about the Na'vi starting over.
That making of was amazing. The stuff the crew did for this film, the things the actors did to make this film and the things weta and ilm and everyone else did to make this happen is just beyond amazing. Based of all reports (I know we touched on this earlier in this thread somewhere :lol ) and watching this it really felt like everyone came together as one to complete this film. It actually seemed like they became a large family which makes me even more excited for the sequels if we get this passion again from everyone.
I agree with Dead in that they should NEVER have cut "You're a long way from Earth" scene or a few others. I really wish they would have finished the Festival and the hand holding scene before Jake gets his Ikran (which they briefly showed in the making of) along with the scene of Grace talking to Jake before his dream sequence and Jake admitting to them about working for Quaritch. There's more (some should have been cut, like the "Norm's a god" scene), but the above to me felt like they added so much more to the characters.
Either way so far this is by far the best blu-ray release yet. Will watch the extended cut tomorrow. I'm pretty damn excited to see Earth.
P.S. the "New Life" scene did not show Neytiri pregnant. It implies it sure by him putting his hand on her stomach, but it felt to me just about the Na'vi starting over.
I actually just watched the Dreamhunt.
Holy crap! Its actually the single biggest chunk of footage that was cut from the movie. 10 straight minutes!
The whole Acid trip is trippy as fuck. I mean, they could probably not even bother to render it, and it would still work within the completed movie (provided the "reality" scenes were finished). Honestly I have no clue what it would even look like 100% rendered (a cross between the Fountain and The Matrix?), but it looks pretty awesome, even in template format :lol
Holy crap! Its actually the single biggest chunk of footage that was cut from the movie. 10 straight minutes!
The whole Acid trip is trippy as fuck. I mean, they could probably not even bother to render it, and it would still work within the completed movie (provided the "reality" scenes were finished). Honestly I have no clue what it would even look like 100% rendered (a cross between the Fountain and The Matrix?), but it looks pretty awesome, even in template format :lol
I need some help. I want to get my mom an Avatar book with lots of pics/sketches of the designs and the movie, technical stuff isn´t as important.
Now, there´s
Avatar: the making of at almost 300 pages
Avatar artbook at 100p
The super-duper Collector´s Edition from Amazon.de has a 44 page book included (and one pic from the film reel!!!1!), but it´s TWICE the price of the regular CE.
Which one hast the most prettiest pics?
Now, there´s
Avatar: the making of at almost 300 pages
Avatar artbook at 100p
The super-duper Collector´s Edition from Amazon.de has a 44 page book included (and one pic from the film reel!!!1!), but it´s TWICE the price of the regular CE.
Which one hast the most prettiest pics?
TheKaeptain
Banned
Realized something. In the extended cut
they explained the floating mountains.
Nappuccino
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CaptYamato said:
Did they explain how the
waterfalls kept working?
So what else is different between the two longer cuts? I'm really looking forward to seeing the rerelease version, it's the one I haven't seen, and I imagine, the best. Assuming Neytiri's sister's subplot is in that version, that was the best addition from the original cut I believe.
Watching some of that stuff was pretty incredible. There is some I wouldn't want to see restored, but there is actually some beautiful writing in there, better than anything that made it in the movie that got cut. Stuff I wish they had retro fitted into other scenes somehow. The line about the Na'vi for lie for example, that was really great.Dead said:
Just visually speaking, the plasma storm and the dream hunt both would have been supreme eye porn.
The major scenes I'd like to see completed are:
- Dream Hunt
- Hunt Festival
- The Eye of Ewya
thats already 15 minutes worth
Im kind of ambivalent about the scene where the Avatars attack, but it has an awesome action segment where the mercs are getting torn to shreds by the animals. Wouldve been cool to see.
- Dream Hunt
- Hunt Festival
- The Eye of Ewya
thats already 15 minutes worth
Im kind of ambivalent about the scene where the Avatars attack, but it has an awesome action segment where the mercs are getting torn to shreds by the animals. Wouldve been cool to see.
I think the duel should have come back for sure, and the dream hunt. I can see why they wouldn't, but I think they'd both strengthen the movie.
The Eye was really cool.
The Avatar's over throwing the compound was bad I think. It along with the Norm/Trudy stuff should have gone.
The Eye was really cool.
The Avatar's over throwing the compound was bad I think. It along with the Norm/Trudy stuff should have gone.
Oh yeah the Duel.
That scene had some great stuff that shouldn't have been cut AT ALL, like the extended part where Neytiri makes clear she wants to stay with Jake, but the Duel itself seems like it kinda goes on for a bit too long.
Maybe id have a different opinion of it if I saw it fully rendered, dunno.
But yeah, the Dreamhunt scene is really a big loss imo. Great character building for Jake, incredible visuals, and I think it makes the predictability of the whole Toruk Makto thing go down a little better as with the scene it becomes more of a running subplot rather than something that should be "surprising"
That scene had some great stuff that shouldn't have been cut AT ALL, like the extended part where Neytiri makes clear she wants to stay with Jake, but the Duel itself seems like it kinda goes on for a bit too long.
Maybe id have a different opinion of it if I saw it fully rendered, dunno.
But yeah, the Dreamhunt scene is really a big loss imo. Great character building for Jake, incredible visuals, and I think it makes the predictability of the whole Toruk Makto thing go down a little better as with the scene it becomes more of a running subplot rather than something that should be "surprising"
The dreamhunt is the biggest loss I believe. It's hippie shit that would have got the film more crap for being tree hugging, but the context is great, seeing him walk out into the bit of the film that made it "The Na'vi say every person is born twice" or words to that effect, I got chills, it had far greater impact knowing he actually had a real final challenge to face not a essentially ceremonial party.Dead said:
Nappuccino
Member
JGS said:
i mean the ones pouring out of the floating rocks with no source of water
There's a lot more material I'd rather see gone than that. The film is so front loaded. I'd have removed everything between his first and second time using the Avatar. He meets Avatar' Grace, next shot they're flying into the jungle where he'll get separated from the group. Speed that first act right up.Dead said:
Sub_Level
wants to fuck an Asian grill.
TacticalFox88 said:
Dude, you gotta see the Making Of for Aliens. They faced a ton of adversity and utizilized a lot of creativity. it's available here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c300wmQ5d-g
It's long but well worth seeing. Cameron at his best when it comes to shooting miniatures, rear screen projection, and illusion camera techniques.
TheKaeptain
Banned
That word was used before this movie came out though. It's just a generic name for a do all element.StuBurns said:
I'll start watching all the deleted scene when I get out of class and take my son to his mothers house.
I just checked it out, as the bluray's have a handy 'just look at the new bits' section. I'm a bit frustrated. The new cut adds three scenes, the intro which I don't like, it 'fixes' the second act montage which really really needed work, and the third scene I'm completely indifferent to, it adds nothing, it hurts nothing.
Reminds me of T2, there isn't a cut of T2 I'm really happy with, the theatrical cut is the tightest, but it's actually missing my favorite scene, and I'd say it's a vital one. The one where Sarah almost destroys the chip.
Another Cameron movie where I'm destine to never be completely happy.
Reminds me of T2, there isn't a cut of T2 I'm really happy with, the theatrical cut is the tightest, but it's actually missing my favorite scene, and I'd say it's a vital one. The one where Sarah almost destroys the chip.
Another Cameron movie where I'm destine to never be completely happy.
Just finished the Extended Cut.
Yeah, Ill probably never watch the theatrical cut again :lol
Everything added just feels like it was always meant to be there, its all organically woven in. The one bit that I was iffy on when I saw the Special Edition in theaters was the way the Hunt was re-inserted, but watching it again the edit worked just fine, and by re-using that bit of music from the final battle, it kinda establishes it as a Na'vi hunting/warrior theme. Same with the Tsu'tey scene, after seeing it once, it just felt "right" this time. The opening fit in perfectly imo, it just kinda naturally feels like the proper start to Jake's adventure.
Although...everytime I watch the movie in the future, Im pretty sure I will forever notice the gaping omission of the Dreamhunt. When the "ceremony" scene came on, all I could think of "whyyyyyyyyyyyy!" :lol
Yeah, Ill probably never watch the theatrical cut again :lol
Everything added just feels like it was always meant to be there, its all organically woven in. The one bit that I was iffy on when I saw the Special Edition in theaters was the way the Hunt was re-inserted, but watching it again the edit worked just fine, and by re-using that bit of music from the final battle, it kinda establishes it as a Na'vi hunting/warrior theme. Same with the Tsu'tey scene, after seeing it once, it just felt "right" this time. The opening fit in perfectly imo, it just kinda naturally feels like the proper start to Jake's adventure.
Although...everytime I watch the movie in the future, Im pretty sure I will forever notice the gaping omission of the Dreamhunt. When the "ceremony" scene came on, all I could think of "whyyyyyyyyyyyy!" :lol
Holy shit, I just unpacked the thing to put it in the cabinet with my other BDs, and goddamn is it ever a classy looking set. Love the glossy outer hardcover sleeve, and the interior hardcover book format is beautiful. Totally doesn't fit at all with the rest of the spines in my collection though :lol Its taller than everything else by about half an inch. But I guess when you're the highest grossing movie of all time, you're allowed to fuck up the aesthetics of Solo's collection 
Probably gonna be another week or two until I have a free afternoon to dive into this I don't wanna do this shit piecemeal - I won't touch it until I have the time to watch the extended cut and all the extras in one go.
Probably gonna be another week or two until I have a free afternoon to dive into this
I don't wanna do this shit piecemeal - I won't touch it until I have the time to watch the extended cut and all the extras in one go.TacticalFox88
Banned
Solo, the making of will make you shit bricks. Pretty damn awesome.Solo said:Holy shit, I just unpacked the thing to put it in the cabinet with my other BDs, and goddamn is it ever a classy looking set. Love the glossy outer hardcover sleeve, and the interior hardcover book format is beautiful. Totally doesn't fit at all with the rest of the spines in my collection though :lol Its taller than everything else by about half an inch. But I guess when you're the highest grossing movie of all time, you're allowed to fuck up the aesthetics of Solo's collection
Probably gonna be another week or two until I have a free afternoon to dive into this
Disc one and two together are literally like six hours.Solo said:Holy shit, I just unpacked the thing to put it in the cabinet with my other BDs, and goddamn is it ever a classy looking set. Love the glossy outer hardcover sleeve, and the interior hardcover book format is beautiful. Totally doesn't fit at all with the rest of the spines in my collection though :lol Its taller than everything else by about half an inch. But I guess when you're the highest grossing movie of all time, you're allowed to fuck up the aesthetics of Solo's collection
Probably gonna be another week or two until I have a free afternoon to dive into this
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