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Bruno MB · Mar 14, 2012

01./01. [PS3] One Piece: Pirate Warriors # <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2012.03.01} (¥8.190) - 90.133 / 745.907 (-86%)

The million-selling dream was nice while it lasted, anyway it will end up its run with 850k - 900k units, thats an outstanding achievement.

[3DS] Hatsune Miku and Future Stars: Project Mirai # <ACT> (Sega) {2012.03.08} (¥6.090) - 86.676 / NEW

Not bad but I think it had potential to debut with higher numbers, at least over 100k units.

03./00. [PS3] Street Fighter X Tekken # <FTG> (Capcom) {2012.03.08} (¥6.990) - 58.471 / NEW

14./00. [360] Street Fighter X Tekken # <FTG> (Capcom) {2012.03.08} (¥6.990) - 8.527 / NEW

[PS3] Street Fighter IV (Capcom) 86,000 / NEW
[360] Street Fighter IV (Capcom) 38,000 / NEW

[PS3] Super Street Fighter 4 (Capcom) - 80.882 / NEW
[360] Super Street Fighter 4 (Capcom) - 28.454 / NEW

[PS3] Super Street Fighter IV: Arcade Edition (Capcom) {2011.06.30} - 54.924 / NEW
[360] Super Street Fighter IV: Arcade Edition (Capcom) {2011.06.30} - 12.326 / NEW

[PS3] Marvel Vs. Capcom 3: Fate of Two Worlds (Capcom) {2011.02.17} - 67.187 / NEW
[360] Marvel Vs. Capcom 3: Fate of Two Worlds (Capcom) {2011.02.17} - 13.779 / NEW

[PS3] Ultimate Marvel Vs. Capcom 3 <FTG> (Capcom) {2011.11.17} (¥4.990) - 22.436 / NEW
[360] Ultimate Marvel Vs. Capcom 3 <FTG> (Capcom) {2011.11.17} (¥4.990) - ? / NEW

04./00. [PS3] Mobile Suit Gundam UC # <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2012.03.08} (¥5.040) - 51.669 / NEW
05./00. [3DS] Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater 3D # <ADV> (Konami) {2012.03.08} (¥5.980) - 38.374 / NEW
12./00. [3DS] Girls RPG: Cinderella Life <RPG> (Level 5) {2012.03.08} (¥4.980) - 9.519 / NEW

Mobile Suit Gundam UC bombed, it won't even manage to outsell the infamous Mobile Suit Gundam: Target in Sight (146,199 ltd sales).

I guess the portable Metal Gear Solid 3 did it decently (though I'm not too sure), or at least above our (very low) expectations.

The Level 5 streak of success ended up a long time ago.

7threst · Mar 14, 2012

12./00. [3DS] Girls RPG: Cinderella Life <RPG> (Level 5) {2012.03.08} (¥4.980) - 9.519 / NEW

I watched the trailer and I now need this feel-good game.

jman2050 · Mar 14, 2012

frankie_baby said:
you really think PSO 2 will be that big?

That's the joke?

Opus Angelorum · Mar 14, 2012

The_Darkest_Red said:
+18 units is a clear indication of the "heavenly effect" I would say.

That it sold over 8000 units and hardware sales only increased by 18...

turnbuckle said:
Nice sales spike for the Vita. Where are all the doom and gloomers now? Crow being had

Not sure if serious?

lunchwithyuzo · Mar 14, 2012

frankie_baby said:
you really think PSO 2 will be that big?

Potentially bigger than anything else on the system, yes. They need to figure out local multiplayer though first.

electroplankton · Mar 14, 2012

The reason why Vita is still above 10k, and pretty constant is its appeal as new product.

Chris1964 · Mar 14, 2012

How much was Capcom expecting from SF Vs. Tekken? Even with channel stuffing it won't hit 1 million.

chickdigger802 · Mar 14, 2012

Anyone got numbers for PSO up to PSP2?

Father_Brain · Mar 14, 2012

Chris1964 said:
I remember an article from GamePro in 1997 where the editor was wondering where are al the third party games for N64. After a lot of thought he came to the conclusion that the reason we hear nothing for them is because they prepare a huge blowout at E3.

I'm still waiting for that E3.

My Vita E3 predictions right now:

-CoD, possibly Assassin's Creed reveals
-First-party reveals (Killzone, new Media Molecule IP)
-Nothing new announced of relevance to the JP market
-No significant new third-party Vita exclusives announced

I'll eat crow if I'm wrong, but after E3, Gamescom, TGS, and the months since, the easiest conclusion to draw is that the software just isn't there.

botty · Mar 14, 2012

i can't believe a game as captivating as Girls RPG did less than the Vita. Isn't this a reoccurring trend for Level 5?

frankie_baby · Mar 14, 2012

lunchwithyuzo said:
Potentially bigger than anything else on the system, yes. They need to figure out local multiplayer though first.

A sequel to portable games would've had that potential i doubt a port of a pc subscription online game will

Bruno MB · Mar 14, 2012

Chris1964 said:
How much was Capcom expecting from SF Vs. Tekken? Even with channel stuffing it won't hit 1 million.

2 million units.

Edit: They will have a rough first-half year (Dragon's Dogma and Resident Evil: Operation Raccoon City).

Mpl90 · Mar 14, 2012

lunchwithyuzo said:
Potentially bigger than anything else on the system, yes. They need to figure out local multiplayer though first.

There is NO local multiplayer. Just online one, saves are on servers. Confirmed from the developers themselves.

nickcv · Mar 14, 2012

jman2050 said:
That's the joke?

for what i understand Phantasy Star Portable is an excellent system seller, while not the same can be said about online, also because it won't allowed local multiplayer and you need a subscription.

am i wrong? o.o

Maedhros · Mar 14, 2012

Father_Brain said:
My Vita E3 predictions right now:

-CoD, possibly Assassin's Creed reveals
-First-party reveals (Killzone, new Media Molecule IP)
-Nothing new announced of relevance to the JP market
-No significant new third-party Vita exclusives announced

I'll eat crow if I'm wrong, but after E3, Gamescom, TGS, and the months since, the easiest conclusion to draw is that the software just isn't there.

Of course there won't be anything with relevance for jp market on E3. TGS is what we'll be expecting to see japanese games.

hardcastlemccormick · Mar 14, 2012

Lots of people missing jokes in this thread this week.

BadWolf · Mar 14, 2012

Father_Brain said:
I'll eat crow if I'm wrong, but after E3, Gamescom, TGS, and the months since, the easiest conclusion to draw is that the software just isn't there.

I think its there, just not ready.

Opus Angelorum · Mar 14, 2012

BadWolf said:
I think its there, just not ready.

Peter, is that you?

nickcv · Mar 14, 2012

BadWolf said:
I think its there, just not ready.

Milo confirmed for PSVita!

Mpl90 · Mar 14, 2012

About Harvest Moon.
Comparison between third weeks

[3DS] Harvest Moon: The Land of Origin <SLG> (Marvelous AQL) {2012.02.23} (¥5.040) - 16.378 / 124.886

[NDS] Harvest Moon: Island of Happiness* (Marvelous Entertainment) - 24.925 / 126.265
[NDS] Harvest Moon: Twin Villages* (Marvelous Entertainment) - 13.616 / 80.719

*Famitsu, since at those times MC wasn't used to provide numbers for top 20, just for top 10

lunchwithyuzo · Mar 14, 2012

Mpl90 said:
There is NO local multiplayer. Just online one, saves are on servers. Confirmed from the developers themselves.

I don't believe they confirmed no local, just "always online". I know it's Sega & Sony here but come on, I mean they can't really be releasing a handheld co-op dungeon crawl with no local play... can they?

nickcv · Mar 14, 2012

lunchwithyuzo said:
I don't believe they confirmed no local, just "always online". I know it's Sega & Sony here but come on, I mean they can't really be releasing a handheld co-op dungeon crawl with no local play... can they?

i don't think you can have "local with online" as in "just me and you in an instanced world"

you will be able to play co-op with a friend next to you thanks to the fact that both of you will be online... just like playing WoW with your brother in the room next to yours

Colonel Mustard · Mar 14, 2012

Peace Walker port now imminent?

jonno394 · Mar 14, 2012

lunchwithyuzo said:
I don't believe they confirmed no local, just "always online". I know it's Sega & Sony here but come on, I mean they can't really be releasing a handheld co-op dungeon crawl with no local play... can they?

Well online subscriptions will be the source of their income over a lengthy period, so why negate that by letting them just play locally??

SmokedMeat · Mar 14, 2012

If this were the Royal Rumble, 3DS just attempted to toss Vita over the top rope, but BY GOD! BY GOD, Vita hangs on! Vita refuses to be eliminated!!

magash · Mar 14, 2012

lunchwithyuzo said:
I don't believe they confirmed no local, just "always online". I know it's Sega & Sony here but come on, I mean they can't really be releasing a handheld co-op dungeon crawl with no local play... can they?

Alternatively SEGA might want to develop the local multiplayer version of Phantasy Star for the 3DS

lunchwithyuzo · Mar 14, 2012

BadWolf said:
I think its there, just not ready.

If it's not ready soon then it won't matter, because it won't remain there.

And like someone said upthread, if Sony's showing a 10% done PSO2 due in a year, it's not like "ready" is really much of a concern for announcing things from their viewpoint.

Kazerei · Mar 14, 2012

Brazil said:
You say one thing, and the numbers say otherwise.

Was SFxT expected to sell as well as mainline titles? I sort of classified it as a spinoff.

Meier · Mar 14, 2012

I really like Level-5 so I was hoping that Girls RPG would do better for their sake. Maybe it will have some legs.

FoneBone · Mar 14, 2012

BadWolf said:
I think its there, just not ready.

This sort of reasoning is looking increasingly desperate to me.

Cosmo Clock 21 · Mar 14, 2012

Cheesemeister said:
If the 3DS did a full 360, it'd be getting RRODs...

Well it does have that top screen scratch thing.

Mpl90 · Mar 14, 2012

lunchwithyuzo said:
I don't believe they confirmed no local, just "always online". I know it's Sega & Sony here but come on, I mean they can't really be releasing a handheld co-op dungeon crawl with no local play... can they?

As detailed in the video, the Vita and PC versions will share the same servers. Also, your character can be played on both systems. For this reason, the Vita version will be an online exclusive game, and its play data will be saved on the servers. Sakai noted that this is a great difference from past Phantasy Star Portable games, but remarked that you could say it's something they're able to try out because of the Vita.

http://andriasang.com/con08z/pso2_detailed/

Majine · Mar 14, 2012

Fake Kaz Hirai makes Twitter worth it:

Good news! Japanese Vita sales increased by 18 units last week! If this trend continues we'll catch up to the 3DS by the end of the century!

lunchwithyuzo · Mar 14, 2012

nickcv said:
i don't think you can have "local with online" as in "just me and you in an instanced world"

you will be able to play co-op with a friend next to you thanks to the fact that both of you will be online... just like playing WoW with your brother in the room next to yours

PSO's not a real MMO though. Outside lobbies it is instanced in fact.

jonno394 said:
Well online subscriptions will be the source of their income over a lengthy period, so why negate that by letting them just play locally??

You'd still need the subscription since stats/data is all server side.

magash said:
Alternatively SEGA might want to develop the local multiplayer version of Phantasy Star for the 3DS

Well yeah. At this point I think it's obvious the Alfasystem subseries will follow Monhun to 3DS. God Eater is probably headed there too imo.

lunchwithyuzo · Mar 14, 2012

Mpl90 said:
http://andriasang.com/con08z/pso2_detailed/

lol, not sounding good. 50k ltd here we come :/

lunchwithyuzo · Mar 14, 2012

Colonel Mustard said:
Peace Walker port now imminent?

That's the plan suppossedly. Unless they do Portable Ops first.

nickcv · Mar 14, 2012

lunchwithyuzo said:
PSO's not a real MMO though. Outside lobbies it is instanced in fact.

You'd still need the subscription since stats/data is all server side.

Well yeah. At this point I think it's obvious the Alfasystem subseries will follow Monhun to 3DS. God Eater is probably headed there too imo.

sure, but still you need the subscription... you can say that you are "playing locally with you friend" but you cannot do that without being online...

imho local multplayer definition is "a game you can play with a friend next to you without the need of an internet connection"
while online multiplayer definition is "a game you can play with a friend where he is thanks to your internet connection"

PSO for vita force you to have online, so you don't have local multiplayer

Terareflection · Mar 14, 2012

Kazerei said:
Was SFxT expected to sell as well as mainline titles? I sort of classified it as a spinoff.

IIRC, they expected 2 million for MVC3 too. That said, most of SF's audience is in the US.

Hero of Legend · Mar 14, 2012

lunchwithyuzo said:
That's the plan suppossedly. Unless they do Portable Ops first.

Did Konami even hint at such plans? Just asking. If they do bring PW over, hopefully it'll be more polished than MGS3 3D. The framerate wasn't so good in the demo, and I think it is reflective of the final product IIRC.

muu · Mar 14, 2012

JustAnotherOtaku said:
The fuck is this? Is Miku hated now she went Chibi or something?

There were over double the number of PSPs when Diva first hit. I was hoping for better but 80K is a strong start, and the quality of the finished product should result in long legs. The demo featured one of the more awkward songs to play through (low bpm, non-straightforward notes to hit) without a 1.5x/2x speed modifier that the full game contains, and the internet community's response to it was very negative. No doubt that had an effect on initial sales, as people went from day 1 to waiting for user reviews to pop up.

It takes a little more warming up to than Theatrhythm, but the game itself is solid. Pity they didn't include a DLC option.

Bruno MB · Mar 14, 2012

Will Konami be pleased with at best 250k - 300k units (MGS3D) sold worldwide? I don't think so.

gogogow · Mar 14, 2012

Bruno MB said:
Will Konami be pleased with at best 250k - 300k units (MGS3D) sold worldwide? I don't think so.

Surely there's a lot of profit to be made with such a lazy port with no marketing or whatsoever at full price.

jonno394 · Mar 14, 2012

Bruno MB said:
Will Konami be pleased with at best 250k - 300k units (MGS3D) sold worldwide? I don't think so.

Considering they killed the port by announcing and then releasing the HD release before this, I don't think they can blame anyone but themselves.

IIRC, initial reaction to MGS being released on the 3DS was pretty good, then they snuffed it all out by announcing the HD versions......

Anth0ny · Mar 14, 2012

Is that a good second week for One Piece? lol

Kacho · Mar 14, 2012

How long will it take for Sony to publicly address the poor performance of the Vita?

BadWolf · Mar 14, 2012

lunchwithyuzo said:
If it's not ready soon then it won't matter, because it won't remain there.

And like someone said upthread, if Sony's showing a 10% done PSO2 due in a year, it's not like "ready" is really much of a concern for announcing things from their viewpoint

And look how well that turned out for them.

Also, there is a PC build of PSO2 that is much further along which ppl can look at and set their expecations with for the Vita.

Going around showing a bunch of 10% or whatever complete games would be the more desperate move imo, especially if they are unique to the Vita and not ports.

SmokedMeat · Mar 14, 2012

PhoReal said:
How long will it take for Sony to publicly address the poor performance of the Vita?

Why would they publicly address this?

slaughterking · Mar 14, 2012

ShinUltramanJ said:
Why would they publicly address this?

Because they are a public company.

Aostia · Mar 14, 2012

gogogow said:
Surely there's a lot of profit to be made with such a lazy port with no marketing or whatsoever at full price.

and no distribution costs for western markets (Nintendo distributing it at least in Europe)

SolarPowered · Mar 14, 2012

Chris1964 said:
03./00. [PS3] Street Fighter X Tekken # <FTG> (Capcom) {2012.03.08} (¥6.990) - 58.471 / NEW
14./00. [360] Street Fighter X Tekken # <FTG> (Capcom) {2012.03.08} (¥6.990) - 8.527 / NEW

I expected better to be honest...

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