Not sure if you did it yet, but focus on dodging only, you have to hold out until she stops firing before you can damage her. Her lock on sniper shots seem scary but they're mostly there to trick you into running into the regular bullets, you actually have more time to get behind cover than you'd think.
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FURI | OT | Synthvengeance
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Not sure if you did it yet, but focus on dodging only, you have to hold out until she stops firing before you can damage her. Her lock on sniper shots seem scary but they're mostly there to trick you into running into the regular bullets, you actually have more time to get behind cover than you'd think.
I agree. And having to watch those end of phase mini-cutscenes every time isn't fun either.
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Deleted member 57681
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Yeah. That's what we were saying.
You can die up to two times per phase. That's plenty of room for error for this kind of game.
ElephantShell
Banned
Stuck at the exact same spot. Can't figure out the timing to doge once
those waves start coming in from the sides as well as the front. Should I be doing a charged dash there?
Not for those of us who are terrible at action games! I just wish there was an intermediate difficulty with four or five continues per phase for those of us who take forever to learn patterns.
Easy is a hilariously contemptuous difficulty level though, I tried it out of curiosity and the number of phases and patterns it eliminates is basically the dev telling you, you don't deserve our game haha.
BTW playing on PS4 post-patch there are no more jet engine fans during Boss 3 so that's great. And yeah they didn't change the dash, it's still the same.
No, the easiest way to do that bit is to dodge diagonally, so you dodge both the vertical and horizontal wave in one go.
Have played up to the seventh boss now, going to set it down since so many call it so tough. I'll get back to it tomorrow. I likethe game a lot but am not a fan of the genre so the difficulty is a little intense for me. I think bosses
were the biggest roadblocks so far, taking me a couple of aggravating hours probably.
3 and 5
RedAssedApe
Banned
this game is pretty rage inducing. lol
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Deleted member 57681
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Is this on Furier? Because on Furi you can
dodge through his shockwaves and get up to him that way
nope, normal difficulty. unless i was misunderstanding something, every time i would
get a perfect parry in the side view section, it would trigger a short cutscene of him deflecting my attack and he'd take no damage. but if i got the slightly mistimed parries where you get a little hp back, but he keeps attacking you, i could parry the full combo and then get a hit in each time
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A right, I never managed to perfect parry him that often. The HP parries worked. But yeah, you can get to him through the shockwaves as well.
lol do we even need to tag all that?
what the hell man
boss 10 was such a boring letdown
and now i'm on the
boss 10 was such a boring letdown
and now i'm on the
i'm assuming secret 11th boss, this big face thing up in the spaceship and this is terrible... its not fun. what happend to the fast action game i've been playing? this stupid fucking mech suit is so slow and there's no melee attacks anymore. its just holding down R2 to charge beams while i slowly walk between bullets.
yo seriously, this fight against
the star is the most underwhelming and frustrating way to end this game possible. why isn't this some crazy test of all the skills i've built up over the past 10 fights? instead they pulled one of my least favorite things to do in a game, and basically have the last fight be some new mechanic/control scheme. i was expecting a fight like senator armstrong in mg rising, and instead its this weird slow ass bullet hell thing.
Salty Catfish
Member
Last phase of The Line is absolutely fucked on Furier mode.
(Screencap from a Youtube vid).
(Screencap from a Youtube vid).
Yeah this was really disappointing. I put the game down because of this.
Crab Milk Mickey
Member
Charge shot makes this phase far less scarier, for what it's worth.Last phase of The Line is absolutely fucked on Furier mode.
(Screencap from a Youtube vid).
Just beat the game,
included. Got Rank D.
Wow what a experience, I loved it. I think Furi has one of the most fair difficulty balances I've ever seen in an action game.
Most of the ones that have boss battles with multiple phases make it so the fights are always scalating. Bosses normally gain more attacks the more phases you beat until they're nearly invincible. But in Furi whenever I found myself having a hard time against a boss phase and thought "god, the next one will probably be a nightmare" the game surprised me changing the boss' attacks entirely for the next phase, sometimes to make them easier and give me a break.
That made the game never feel unfair. The best example is probably the samurai who deals 3 squares of damage with all his attacks. It seemed impossible at first until I realized I only had to hit him like 6 times per phase and and his attack patterns weren't random at all. Same with the final boss that had a hellish third phase but everything after was relatively simpler and mostly dodging.
My only complaint would be that the samurai was pretty much impossible to beat in one try unlike everyone else, but that's very minor and the fight was pretty special anyway so it's fine.
Hell of a game. Maybe I'll try furier sometime too.
'secret' boss
Wow what a experience, I loved it. I think Furi has one of the most fair difficulty balances I've ever seen in an action game.
Most of the ones that have boss battles with multiple phases make it so the fights are always scalating. Bosses normally gain more attacks the more phases you beat until they're nearly invincible. But in Furi whenever I found myself having a hard time against a boss phase and thought "god, the next one will probably be a nightmare" the game surprised me changing the boss' attacks entirely for the next phase, sometimes to make them easier and give me a break.
That made the game never feel unfair. The best example is probably the samurai who deals 3 squares of damage with all his attacks. It seemed impossible at first until I realized I only had to hit him like 6 times per phase and and his attack patterns weren't random at all. Same with the final boss that had a hellish third phase but everything after was relatively simpler and mostly dodging.
My only complaint would be that the samurai was pretty much impossible to beat in one try unlike everyone else, but that's very minor and the fight was pretty special anyway so it's fine.
Hell of a game. Maybe I'll try furier sometime too.
Orochinagis
Member
Any tips for the second boss? i am like three days stuck on her, I can reach his unleash form and got destroyed when she start firing that big laser on my face
Crab Milk Mickey
Member
Charging up your dash is a big help for consistently dodging her wide laser in the final phase.
I got to the sniper on Furier and the last phase pretty easily, but died. Too much of a boring slog to try again without being able to practice the last phase on its own. My only problem with the game is the last phases that are just bullet hell nonsense segments that aren't reasonably doable on the first attempt and having to redo everything if you fail. If they added phase selection to practice mode, I'd be happy. The 3rd boss was really boring, too, but it doesn't take nearly as long, so it's all right.
Orochinagis
Member
The dash in this game is pretty weird I always got hit despite dashing when the ray is coming at me.
Finally sat down today and beat the game on PC. What a wonderful experience. Loved the boss fights, the music, and the story. I found all the bosses to be challenging, different, fair, and fun. There were some frustrating moments, but the blame always fell on me for doing stupid stuff. I wish this game had an alternate character to play through the game again. This game was such a surprise!
Man the Rider was almost a straight up cold blooded killer. The way he killed The Beat after her pleading was almost sickening. Then her cry for him to hold her hand going unanswered was damn cold. He did have reservations on most of the bosses. You could tell he felt something. That's why I decided to save the motherfuckin' planet.
The Star took a couple of tries. Some people here seem to hate her, but I thought she was super fun to fight against. I'm a big shoot'em up fan, so all the bullet dodging had me smiling.
My mistake was I kept dashing diagonally and getting hot you have to dodge straight through to get to the other side
I'm on the third boss but got frustrated
Time Flashes
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PSA: You don't need to get the three S grades in Practice at the same time. For example, you can get S for KOs ans Hits and play again to get S for Time. No matter what grades you get for the other two categories, you'll get an overall S. Just go back to Main Menu an you'll see.
Discover that today after trying to get all S grades for the sniper boss yesterday. Could have saved me some frustration.
Discover that today after trying to get all S grades for the sniper boss yesterday. Could have saved me some frustration.
I don't think you really have invincibility on the dash, it's more accurately a short teleport -- so you'll easily get hit coming out of a dash if you don't account for that. I didn't realize at the time I could charge my dash, so dashing through the lasers required literally required perfect timing without a charge, and I'd come out of a dash in the middle of the laser.
I'd also suggest using L1 for dashing instead of x most of the time, by using L1 it's super easy to fire with the right stick whilst dashing, and charge attacks while dashing.
Beat the game today,
started the post game optional(?) boss.
So, I finally beat the game with the "true" ending (so "secret boss" included), and...I'm disappointed. This is my little analysis, but I want to do a premise: I'm not new to action game, I played a LOT of them in my thirty years of life (a similar game I completed recently was Metal Gear Rising, on Revengeance difficulty, getting all S including the DLCs), and I'm also ok with challenging games: I like them. But...Furi is hard for the difficulty reason.
Way too often the game seems to go in "try until you will manage to pass it" mode, and way too often you feel like you accomplished nothing, only having a lucky run. The last phase of the secret boss was EXASPERATING to me, and not because I wasn't good (in fact I manage to get to the last phase with all lives), but because it's simply unfair. Also the game has a lot of tearing and sometimes a small freeze happens, and this pretty much screw your run, because with that delay you will take one hit, and often one hit in this game means you will take another. Depending on what hits you, it could be game.over.
In a skill, time-based game like this you can't have technical issues. Not at all.
But generally I feel like the game is very unbalanced.
The hardest fight for me was the one against the third boss, while I completed some of them during my first try. Like, the last two regular bosses are really a piece of cake compared to the rest.
The game is unbalanced simply because, after you fight among 4,5 or 6 phases, you often get screwed by the last phase, which throw you literally the world. So you die, you die, you die again and eventually you will beat the last phase and proceed. It's simply boring, considering some bosses are really long to beat.
It feels like devs here bumped up the difficulty for no real reasons. I'm from the NES era, so I faced a lot of hard titles in my life, but only with this one I felt like I was struggling to go on becase devs liked the idea to force the player to do the same fight for hours until he will pass it, eventually. And I mastered pretty much all moves, from the regenerating health parry, to dashing around and charging your sword. But too often no matter how skilled you are, you will die because you don't know what that phase will present to you. And since some phases have different stages, it will take time to learn the pattern, but meanwhile you need to face all the other phases again and again. The last phase of the last boss is really infamous for this.
The soundtrack in this game is top notch, the character design too, the world is charming and the dialogues very well written, I liked the simple gameplay here but I feel like normal mode should be much less challenging, because for now it's simply frustrating as hell. I wanted to try Furier, but thinking about the fact I need to face again the third boss with his infinite first phase, sniper and Star last phases...no. I'm ok with what I've done here, there are other titles to pass my time with.
Way too often the game seems to go in "try until you will manage to pass it" mode, and way too often you feel like you accomplished nothing, only having a lucky run. The last phase of the secret boss was EXASPERATING to me, and not because I wasn't good (in fact I manage to get to the last phase with all lives), but because it's simply unfair. Also the game has a lot of tearing and sometimes a small freeze happens, and this pretty much screw your run, because with that delay you will take one hit, and often one hit in this game means you will take another. Depending on what hits you, it could be game.over.
In a skill, time-based game like this you can't have technical issues. Not at all.
But generally I feel like the game is very unbalanced.
The hardest fight for me was the one against the third boss, while I completed some of them during my first try. Like, the last two regular bosses are really a piece of cake compared to the rest.
The game is unbalanced simply because, after you fight among 4,5 or 6 phases, you often get screwed by the last phase, which throw you literally the world. So you die, you die, you die again and eventually you will beat the last phase and proceed. It's simply boring, considering some bosses are really long to beat.
It feels like devs here bumped up the difficulty for no real reasons. I'm from the NES era, so I faced a lot of hard titles in my life, but only with this one I felt like I was struggling to go on becase devs liked the idea to force the player to do the same fight for hours until he will pass it, eventually. And I mastered pretty much all moves, from the regenerating health parry, to dashing around and charging your sword. But too often no matter how skilled you are, you will die because you don't know what that phase will present to you. And since some phases have different stages, it will take time to learn the pattern, but meanwhile you need to face all the other phases again and again. The last phase of the last boss is really infamous for this.
The soundtrack in this game is top notch, the character design too, the world is charming and the dialogues very well written, I liked the simple gameplay here but I feel like normal mode should be much less challenging, because for now it's simply frustrating as hell. I wanted to try Furier, but thinking about the fact I need to face again the third boss with his infinite first phase, sniper and Star last phases...no. I'm ok with what I've done here, there are other titles to pass my time with.
I don't really agree with this. Once you understand the patterns/gimmicks of the bosses it's totally possible to beat them consistently.
I also don't really agree with the game being unbalanced, because I think except for some of the phases/bosses that are clearly easier on purpose, the game does a good job of slowly layering on difficulty.
I definitely agree with him. The last phase of the fourth boss in particular is completely at odds with any of the previous parts of the fights. And it's simply not fun. For the longest time I could consistently beat his first few phases until he threw the grid down. It's not fair, and it's not rewarding.
Crab Milk Mickey
Member
I fail to see how Furi is unfair, erring on the side of trial-and-error even from how you're making basic pattern recognition (the core process of any skill-based action game) sound, when the game goes out of its way to gradually build up what a given boss is capable off with the final waves often culminating into a combination of what occurred during the previous waves. Never mind the visual tells between the types of attacks being very distinct from one another. "Not knowing what to expect" or "forcing the same fight for hours" is ridiculously overblown.
ElephantShell
Banned
Oh my god the last phase of the final boss is out of control
I should have just invaded
Permanently A
Junior Member
Fifth boss is way more fun and easier than the fourth boss. Like the fourth one is manageable, but his parry timing never clicked with me, its so erratic. Not to mention that final phase. Whereas the fifth boss is so much fun to fight. The parries aren't hard and dodging his ranged attacks to land meaty charged blades is damn satisfying.
If you guys hate the grid stuff during his last phase on the 4th boss, you can charge shot the green balls that create the lines so they never create the grid. Assuming you can spot when he's about to shoot them, but if you're having trouble with him as is I doubt you'll be able to manage it honestly.
Permanently A
Junior Member
Oh god, what have I done. I heard there was a
so I stayed there and now all my progress has been wiped.
Does anyone have a solution or a save right before the sixth boss?
edit: anyone else who did the same thing I did, I went to my save file and was able to restore it to the previous save yesterday. I have to redo two fights but at least I don't have to deal with the fucking old man again.
secret ending in the garden
Does anyone have a solution or a save right before the sixth boss?
edit: anyone else who did the same thing I did, I went to my save file and was able to restore it to the previous save yesterday. I have to redo two fights but at least I don't have to deal with the fucking old man again.
Permanently A
Junior Member
about to head into boss 7. heard this is the one that is supposed to fuck me up proper. wish me luck
Jawbreaker
Member
The last phase of
is destroying me. Fuck.
the "secret" boss
It's a tough one. I haven't played the game in days because the game finally broke me and made me angry. It's a tough final phase. You have to survive so much with one string of health and no heal drops.
Permanently A
Junior Member
Managed to get to final phase of the Burst and wow she is just wrecking me. I'm not sure that I can actually beat this.
The 7th boss really highlights the weaknesses of the game.
All the phases up until the final one are too easy, then you get there and it's incredibly difficult.
When I inevitably fail, I've got to start the whole thing all over again. Lose a little bit of enthusiasm each time I have to restart.
All the phases up until the final one are too easy, then you get there and it's incredibly difficult.
When I inevitably fail, I've got to start the whole thing all over again. Lose a little bit of enthusiasm each time I have to restart.
Well, the last phase of the sniper and last boss are explicative for my example. I understood the pattern, even phisically memorized timing, but still I died again, and again, and again because usually if you got hit once (depending on what hits you), you are done. And those phases are way too long. Do you want to do an hard game? It's ok for me, but put checkpoints after a couple of phases. I mean, even MGR gave you a checkpoint after each boss phase. If you want reward people, just put a trophy for getting S rank (so they will eventually quit the game when they die etc...and I think people already do this to get trophies anyway), but don't create a frustrating experience just for the sake of it.
I liked the game, as I wrote, but there are unfair or exasperating aspects of it, like boss fights dragging too long, of unfair last phases. I mean, I fight something for 15-20 minutes, just to die miserably during the last phase because I need to learn the pattern. And I will die again after I learned the second part of the phase and so on. This is when a game stops to be funny and turns into being a frustrating experience for me.
Do you want I learn the pattern? That's ok, but give me checkpoints, don't force me to to the whole fight again and again from the beginning. If you want penalize me, put a trophy for getting S rank on all fights, but the way the game is designed will turn off a lot of people on playing it.