You're talking about a goofy right wing provocateur. Her biggest "crime" is saying insultingly stupid things on television.
Stunning to see this genuinely murderous rhetoric being openly espoused on GAF.
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Ann Coulter finds likely BFF/life partner in free-speech spat w/ Berkeley: Bill Maher
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Stunning to see this genuinely murderous rhetoric being openly espoused on GAF.
Puck Beaverton
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Talking isn't going to do anything, as we're seeing right now that violence gets people to notice. Sucks, but it's how the world works.
Also I'm not advocating Coulter to be murdered. She's a joke.
benicillin
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Well if the country wasn't being run by people like Ann Coulter I don't think there'd be a response of protests and violence, but the students at Berkeley are being held hostage in a country run by bigots who ask to be heard on one hand and espouse a desire to harm people on the other.
old manatee
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The illest.
theCalamity
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They already did and she declined it.
Aztechnology
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Ok see, I can understand that argument. And it's the students right to say this is not what I want my tuition going to. But just on the principle of not wanting someone to speak because you don't like them, well I don't agree with that.
I think you might be taking this a bit far. I would not parallel anything anyone has said in here to murderous intent.
Puck Beaverton
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She should do her dumb shit and I will promptly do my protest calling out her bullshit. Everyone wins, free speech is protected.
Not on campuses they don't. Nobody is entitled to be invited to speak.
lightskintwin
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The irony is by "shutting her down" from speaking, you give Ann Coulter more attention then if she just went and spoke unobstructed.
Suggesting she be stoned sure is. People can and do die from being hit in the head with rocks.
This.
Forgive me for not buying that a self-described libertarian with views on gun control/Islam/Isreal that are completely at odds with what traditional liberals believe is a liberal
Milo was brought down because he crossed the one line that basically nobody, with any legitimacy, on either side will endorse.
Outside of literally endorsing pedophilia the only other way a right wing provocateur will be brought down is if they break the lockstep illusion like Tomi.
Outside of literally endorsing pedophilia the only other way a right wing provocateur will be brought down is if they break the lockstep illusion like Tomi.
Jmanunknown
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How many people are going to continue saying the same bs over and over without reading the article.
I hope they let Coulter speak on the original date and I also hope people protest her that is what free speech is. She is allowed to speak and people are allowed to protest her speaking.
The Technomancer
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That's the thing about the internet these days. Even if YouTube cracked down on certain types of speech there is nothing keeping you from recording your videos and hosting them on some FTP server you link from a blog. The ability for any person to be silenced, outside of literal incarceration, does not exist. And the popularity of hate speech on YouTube and other platforms means that its absolutely able to attract the audience looking for that. No-one can be silenced anymore.
In that context I think we have the absolute right to decide which platforms we do and don't choose to actively provide certain people
Chie Satonaka
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rofl.
once again, good old fake moderate gaf is more concerned with bigots who yell out intolerant rhetoric under the name "free speech" than they are about people who's lives are ruined by it.
if we were in the late 80s, you'd probably apologize for david duke, too. hell, you'd probably apologize for him now.
"I mean, I don't agree with anything he says about black people, but gosh, I sure have a problem with these liberals who keep trying to stop him from speaking. Why don't they just sit him down, offer him a coke, and explain to him why they deserve to be treated like human beings?"
once again, good old fake moderate gaf is more concerned with bigots who yell out intolerant rhetoric under the name "free speech" than they are about people who's lives are ruined by it.
if we were in the late 80s, you'd probably apologize for david duke, too. hell, you'd probably apologize for him now.
"I mean, I don't agree with anything he says about black people, but gosh, I sure have a problem with these liberals who keep trying to stop him from speaking. Why don't they just sit him down, offer him a coke, and explain to him why they deserve to be treated like human beings?"
entremet
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Im for her speaking there and think she's vile, but it's funny how easily the College Republicans are playing the protesters with these trap cards.
It would be not giving her a room/safe space for her speaking engagement. She can speak publically as much as she wants. In fact, she does. Constantly.
DontBeThatGuy
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What's actually stunning is you saying a member here is advocating for her murder.
I don't support violence but it's not goofy or funny to a lot of people now that the world is gone full fascist.
"Traditional liberals" are required to have certain views on Israel?
2Smashed4U
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Yes, they are lol. If a group invites them, the school cannot say no.
entremet
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I think the poster missed the historical context of his quip, throwing rocks at women.
Hence the reply.
Puck Beaverton
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I didn't ask for Coulter to be tied and for all of the Tolerant Left to throw stones at her. I said a rock. You can even throw a small rock if you want to be cautious. It would probably hurt less than a punch, which we all cheer for.
You Are Viewtiful
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He's an idiot. After that Milo incident no one should take him seriously.
smokeandmirrors
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a) I'm not equating her to being a Nazi
b) people listen to her hate speech and racism.
c) she deserves no platform
d) murderous rhetoric where exactly?
The Technomancer
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If Coulter cannot speak at this event she has not been silenced. This is not an opportunity for her to reach people who would otherwise be unable to find her work. Her work is accessible. To anyone. At any time
Not being ok with hate speech and bigotry is not a problem. Also she has no right to talk at a campus. Where is that in the constitution? Show me.
Suggesting that the right response to her speech is to throw rocks at her... that would seem to me to match the very oldest definition of murderous rhetoric.
DontBeThatGuy
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He absolutely did not call for a "stoning", as that one poster put it, which carries with it a very specific context and intent.
entremet
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That's fine, but why can't she speak at a public university?
Poor argument given that most college speakers have written materials.
old manatee
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2Smashed4U
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At this point, as far right as the American right is today, what prominent conservative figure would GAF say IS allowed to speak in public places?
These people are in power now. We're not going to get it back by punching every scum of the earth in the face, it's not gonna happen, sorry. Someone has to engage them at some point.
We cheer for punching a woman? News to me.
Listen, she's terrible and has said the disabled should be killed off because they're a drain on resources. I hate her. But a liberal punching her in the face would make liberals look fucking awful, if you can't see that I don't know what to tell you.
Maher has had a hard on for the political correctness on college campuses for about 5 years now.
it seems he's disgusted with how his comedy comes across as offensive to people on campuses and he sees it as an infringement on free speech.
he's been saying this for 5 years so it really is no surprise to me.
I agree with much of what he says but on this count I have always disagreed with him.
free speech is important but he is taking it to excess right now and living in his own little bubble.
it seems he's disgusted with how his comedy comes across as offensive to people on campuses and he sees it as an infringement on free speech.
he's been saying this for 5 years so it really is no surprise to me.
I agree with much of what he says but on this count I have always disagreed with him.
free speech is important but he is taking it to excess right now and living in his own little bubble.
Puck Beaverton
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And again, talking doesn't work. You'll be the better person, but the powers that be will still snuff you out.
We're all fucked is what I'm saying.
Right. Or is this not true? A university, I'd imagine, should have the right to choose not to give a stage to an intolerant bigot. But suppressing her from speaking in a square, conversely, would actually be censorship.
smokeandmirrors
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Because she's a piece of garbage that peddles hate speech and racism
Bill Maher has stated several times he is friends with her. Even Sean Hannity on his radio program said Maher is great for America because he believes in free speech.
oh its a WaPo piece. Don't believe I will be taking them seriously after they twisted a story about a raffle with a AR-15 story earlier.
oh its a WaPo piece. Don't believe I will be taking them seriously after they twisted a story about a raffle with a AR-15 story earlier.
DontBeThatGuy
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So, you're actually suggesting he meant "stoning" which would mean throwing rocks at her until she's dead? He's advocating for that?
What makes you think Ann Coulter is short on opportunities to speak?
2Smashed4U
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It's not about "being the better person" in the least.
There's a literal neo-Nazi in the White House who has direct access to the presidents ear at all times now.
At some point, their rhetoric has to be countered, and not with violence.
old manatee
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I don't know I'm not the one who wants to throw rocks at people.
benicillin
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Yes, because the literal thousands of hours of televised appearances making her a household name so far have let her make an idiot out of herself.
lightskintwin
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If a college educated student can't endure his views/beliefs from being challenged by a speaker, then we're worst off then I imagined and our collegiate education system has failed us.
I wonder if the Jews that died in camps would say the same thing? Hilter was just a man with a hate message at one point. I may be taking it to the extreme, but hate speech is not just an opinion man.
They want to invite Paul Ryan, fine. I hate the guy but he's not going to go up there and spew hate speech.
In the end I think it should be up to the universities who they want invited but students have their right to protest.
Puck Beaverton
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No, but considering we have threads mocking dumbass voters regretting voting Trump, I wouldn't be surprised if people laughed at Coulter getting punched.
2Smashed4U
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Doesn't matter. That hate speech is protected by the first amendment.
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