Vincent Grayson
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It's 100% shitty behavior, but "definitely rape" is a bit much, and IMO, dilutes the effects of actual rape/nonconsensual sex.
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USA Today: A disturbing sex trend called 'stealthing' is on the rise
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It's 100% shitty behavior, but "definitely rape" is a bit much, and IMO, dilutes the effects of actual rape/nonconsensual sex.
Ever pay 18 years of child support or had it burn when you pee? Me neither. Would prefer keeping it that way.
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It's so bizzare. I've had cases where the girl tried to coax me into removing the condom because"It felt better", but fuck that shit.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I wouldn't be surprised if many jurisdictions consider it so, but as a common law theory, I think its pretty debatable. There's a legal distinction between "fraud in the factum" and "fraud in the inducement" and it's unclear where this would lie.
CrocMother
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"rape adjacent" is the potential legal-ese term I've heard thrown around regarding how charges might be filed against something like this.
EDIT: Here's a paper on this exact topic: 'Rape-Adjacent': Imagining Legal Responses to Nonconsensual Condom Removal, Columbia Journal of Gender and Law, Vol. 32, No. 2, 2017
It's obviously because it feels good and I'm sure they expect the woman to just handle the aftermath, through a plan b pill or something similar. What's a high dose of hormones and a day of cramps, compared to a guy experiencing a moment of pleasure?
Puck Beaverton
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...but why?
Goose_Se7en
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Stealthing challenge will be the next thing. You folks just watch.
Chittagong
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FTFY
perfectchaos007
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Why do these glorified rape trends all have an "ing" suffix. First ghosting, now stealthing.
The old mormon trend of soaking was also weird but at least it was consensual.
The old mormon trend of soaking was also weird but at least it was consensual.
Heavy_D206
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I prefer to just never use condoms in the first place. I like living on the wild side.
CrocMother
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If consensual sex is the metric you're using, then Man is the best thing Mother Nature has ever done. I find your line of thinking completely backwards.
2Smashed4U
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Isn't ghosting just quitting speaking to someone without a heads up or something?
But why? I've never understood why people don't wear condoms. Any amount having sex feels better without a condom is outweighed increased chance of ruining your life with an STD or pregnancy.
Strangely enough I'm always the one to insist on a condom, where the girl wants me to use the pullout method. Though that's just based on the few relationships I've had. I won't risk a pregnancy or transfer of an STD for my or anyone else's pleasure. Anything less is fucked up.
Strangely enough I'm always the one to insist on a condom, where the girl wants me to use the pullout method. Though that's just based on the few relationships I've had. I won't risk a pregnancy or transfer of an STD for my or anyone else's pleasure. Anything less is fucked up.
I understand you're being facetious, but Plan B pills have more significant side effects than that, right? I just wanted to make sure my understanding of the side effects of the Plan B pill as being more wretched than this are correct.
2Smashed4U
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I have a friend who was infected with HIV when a guy he was hooking up with did this to him. After my friend found out his status, he told the dude that he should get tested at which point the guy openly admitted to infecting him and told him "I guess we don't need to worry about condoms anymore".
Some really sick fucking people out there.
Some really sick fucking people out there.
perfectchaos007
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Maybe that was the wrong term, but basically its when you're having sex with a girl from behind and you allow your friend who has been hiding in the room to tag in without her knowing. The big reaction moment comes when the guy she thought she was having sex with walks in front of her.
I remember reading about it here on GAF somewhere last year
Rape is always difficult to prove. How is this different?
StrikeNinja24
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It's people from 4chan. They are most likely lying about having sex at all.
2Smashed4U
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WTF, that can't be an actual thing, can it?!
Honestly, that one always struck me as a folk tale more than a "trend" or an "epidemic". I seriously doubt many people actually did that (or would've been able to pull it off in the first place, for a variety of logistical reasons). It's also not what ghosting is.
Yeah this needs to be discussed beforehand. Back in my bachelor days I would legit ask if girl is on BC or not and condom or not. Have had a few occasions where I've asked permission to take condom off during the act if the condom was preventing me from getting off, and gotten the ok, and also have had girls tell me to take off condom as well. My gf doesn't like condoms, so I had thought it felt better for women without condom as well, but this seems to suggest women can't even tell the difference, which is surprising.
Above may not be smartest course because I suppose as people might have an STD and not be upfront about it, which is shitty as fuck. Young and dumb i suppose. Also people may have an STD and not even know it given how often there are no symptoms and a lack of testing frequency.
I think most stds actually happen in committed relationships too statistically, so I suppose it's dumb for both parties to not be wrapping it up, all the time every time. That shit sucks though compared to no comdom, just saying. This behavior is reprehensible though. Can't be doing that without consent.
Above may not be smartest course because I suppose as people might have an STD and not be upfront about it, which is shitty as fuck. Young and dumb i suppose. Also people may have an STD and not even know it given how often there are no symptoms and a lack of testing frequency.
I think most stds actually happen in committed relationships too statistically, so I suppose it's dumb for both parties to not be wrapping it up, all the time every time. That shit sucks though compared to no comdom, just saying. This behavior is reprehensible though. Can't be doing that without consent.
Based on your phrasing, I don't think you understand how debilitating cramps can be. "Cramps" are caused by uterine contractions, which is the same source (or one of the sources) of pain during childbirth. Obviously, they range in severity, but they can be really painful. The higher dose of hormones in Plan B, means its more likely to be pretty painful, but yeah, there are more symptoms of Plan B, including dizziness, nausea, headaches, etc.
EDIT: Actually, maybe I'm confused. The side effects only list "abdominal pain" and not "cramps" as a side effect...I'm not sure if that's just splitting hairs, but I'm pretty sure I've heard women complain of severe cramps, after taking it...
MonorailCat
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How is that new? Ever since condoms were invented, probably even when they used sheep intestine, there were idiots who secretly wanted to "feel more".
The only new part is that people some got so stupid, that they brag about it on the internet and not only drunk in the bar with friends.
The only new part is that people some got so stupid, that they brag about it on the internet and not only drunk in the bar with friends.
Ninja Scooter
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I always thought "stealthing" was when you take a shit but don't wipe and then slide add first across your roommates bed sheets.
Ragelink26
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"I ALSO like to live dangerously." - Austin Powers
Y'all been watching too much porn.
There is a major difference, presumably the parties involved consented to having sex. You would have to prove that the condom did not break or slip off. Essentially you would have to establish intent/mens rea.
Statistically more stds happen with people in committed relationships than not because of the "trust" factor making people think it's ok to have unprotected sex.
You think you can trust someone but they go and bone someone on the side without you knowing, then you have unprotected sex, and contract side person's std.
You Are Viewtiful
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Reddit and 4chan are a cancer on society and we're just letting it develop to late stages.
Anton Sugar
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I feel the opposite. Way too many people equate rape with being stalked and overtaken by a stranger in a dark alley at night. It's important for people to understand that rape is defined, first and foremost, by a lack of consent.
Shit, it wasn't long ago that many people thought rape was literally impossible in a marriage.
MWS Natural
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So why ask why? You already know why, the risks just isn't worth it to you. It feels considerably better.
Ragelink26
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No that's Tom Cruising
DJ_Lae
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Yeah, I remember that Swiss guy that was charged for rape when he did that.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...ted-rape-condom-sex-switzerland-a7521891.html
I don't understand the appeal. I mean, sure, sex without a condom feels significantly better, but that's something you discuss with your partner beforehand.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...ted-rape-condom-sex-switzerland-a7521891.html
I don't understand the appeal. I mean, sure, sex without a condom feels significantly better, but that's something you discuss with your partner beforehand.
Statistically that BC is doing a hell of a lot more than that condom, so people take the risk for the feels. I don't know how much that condom is really going to improve on BCs 99+% when condoms with perfect use are 98%. You also have to factor in previous conversations with partner about plan of action should a pregnancy happen, and how confident you are in those discussions.
The Silver
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That sounds so fucking stupid I can't imagine that many of the internet bragging aren't just losers lying about it.
It's 100% rape. Someone does something I haven't consented to while having sex that is rape, especially something that could damage and destroy my life.
Messofanego
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Seems like something RooshV would be all about encouraging.
I wasn't serious, but whatever floats your boat.
People don't always know if they have an STD. Also, you could be the person with the STD and not know it.
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