So what is the central message of Bioshock Infinite? Whatever choices you make in life, you're still screwed.
Did anyone else guess the twists early on because it was the central idea of Fringe? You know, a father steals a child from himself in a parallel universe which brings the two into conflict.
Wouldn't your Elizabeth not exist at that point or was Booker married before that Baptism?
Why 12?
If we take it in the literal sense, no Elizabeth existed at the point of the baptism following Wounded Knee. Booker was also not married before the baptism. If that were true then an audio diary by Lady Comstock would make no sense. She explains how Comstock came to her and forgave her of her sins. Comstock would have no use for a wife if he already had one. He wasn't in it for the sex or relationship, he just needed an oven to stick his seed into.
It's a god damn amazing point and that's why I haven't touched it yet. I want to say that is just silly spit-balling but it could totally be true but I can't fathom the implications that would bring to the story and ending.
Fair enough. Who did Booker have Elizabeth with?
Why 12?
I always thought this was done to check the usage of the gas mask before it becomes unusable.
Why 12?
I feel like shit having my Booker stare at Liz's tits when she got her corset.
Sorry if this has been answered, but who was the dead guy in the lighthouse at the beginning?
I'll be 100% honest and say that I hate the post-credit scene and I truly believe that 2K told Ken that the game had to have some type of "happy" ending so he just threw that in to appease his publisher. It wouldn't be the first time he had to compromise an ending for them.
(I think Booker only owned his work office and was "homeless" otherwise. That is total speculation but it makes sense with how desperate he is to get out from under his debt)
I originally edited this into my last post but I felt like giving it its own post
Sorry if this has been answered, but who was the dead guy in the lighthouse at the beginning?
The lighthouse owner who killed Booker in previous incarnations.Sorry if this has been answered, but who was the dead guy in the lighthouse at the beginning?
I feel like shit having my Booker stare at Liz's tits when she got her corset.
I don't know which part of the video you mean and I don't feel like scrolling through looking for that line
From my glace through, it disappears when they enter the final room.
#teamSorian. My thoughts exactly. All Bookers are now drowned at the baptism, and Anna never exists.
Now I got some more questions after pondering the ending a bit more.
- What exactly happened when Booker went across the bridge after Elizabeth? Did the older Elizabeth create a tear that pulled him into the future?
- Did the choices between the bird and cage pendent matter? I'm curious if there were any variations from what older Elizabeth gives you and how the songbird reacts at the end.
- Was Rapture made in a universe where there was no Columbia?
must have been a badass to kill the one dude who blows everything upThe lighthouse owner who killed Booker in previous incarnations.
The Lutecces kill him to remove a roadblock from future journeys.
I think.
must have been a badass to kill the one dude who blows everything up
You're on mobile? I copied the link at the correct time. It's at 15:04.
"It's the only way to undo what I've done to you"
Booker dies numerous times. We only play as the perfect version of Booker that manages not to die once in the hundreds of encounters.
So the twins are actually not twins but the same person, where in one universe lutece was born a girl and the other a boy? I missed a shit ton of recordings, was this well covered in any logs?
So the twins are actually not twins but the same person, where in one universe lutece was born a girl and the other a boy? I missed a shit ton of recordings, was this well covered in any logs?
Who were the creepy kids(?) in Comstock House and why were they wearing masks and being reeducated?
Why did they only attack after the Boys of Silence were alerted to your presence?
That part felt really disjointed from the rest of the story but I probably missed something. It was like "now we need a scary section".
I'm still wondering if I missed something in that section. They act like the guys you killed and were confused of being alive again after you switch dimensions......but nothing in that area seems to amount to anything. It's pretty damn random without more context of what Elizabeth is doing.
Yes it was pretty well confirmed. The constant was their general disposition and abilities.
The variable was the Y chromosome.
Were there an audio log though? I mean, besides seeming obvious. I was just
wondering since I'm planning on playing again to find all the logs.
Hrmm... I majored in physics and none of this was covered in quantum a or b.
Honestly though, I found a lot of the psuedo-science to be off putting. It makes for a great tightly wound mystery though.
Is all of Booker's forgetting, such as him making up the new meaning for "bring us the girl, wipe away the debt", just supposed to be psychosis?
I feel like shit having my Booker stare at Liz's tits when she got her corset.
Booker dies numerous times. We only play as the perfect version of Booker that manages not to die once in the hundreds of encounters.
Not me, she's fine.
This really doesn't stray too much from Quantum Theory. At most, all it does is put restrictions on the theory that aren't actually there.
I suggest you read up on quantum theory. Quantum mechanics basically served as magic. It reminded me of that movie, What the Bleep Do We Know!?
You know knowing what we know about the game it makes me look at the death scenes when Liz is resurrecting you in a different light. Are when you are at the door. I mean this is purely speculation but what if everytime you die you are actually "rezed" as another Booker following the perfect reality. Just funny if so is all.
Booker dies numerous times. We only play as the perfect version of Booker that manages not to die once in the hundreds of encounters.
You know knowing what we know about the game it makes me look at the death scenes when Liz is resurrecting you in a different light. Are when you are at the door. I mean this is purely speculation but what if everytime you die you are actually "rezed" as another Booker following the perfect reality. Just funny if so is all.
Were there an audio log though? I mean, besides seeming obvious. I was just
wondering since I'm planning on playing again to find all the logs.
Hrmm... I majored in physics and none of this was covered in quantum a or b.
Honestly though, I found a lot of the psuedo-science to be off putting. It makes for a great tightly wound mystery though.
I still don't think it's the one Booker going from start to finish. What happens if you die while playing and you get back to that office? don't you just start from that point again as another Booker? We are told in the game that Booker is always stopped by something, more often than not it's songbird but it could be other things too. Playing as multiple Bookers also highlights the whole "Infinite" thing.
Booker at the start of the game is Booker 122 hence the code for the bells to enter Columbia 1-2-2, you drown as the priest baptises you so when you get to the Luteces for the coin flip you are Booker no.123 and your coin flip is the 123rd one.
Just for clarification, whenever Booker gets a nosebleed is when an alternate Booker dies right?
P.S. My life is falling apart at doing 1999 mode without using a Dollar Bill machine.
For the sake of convenience the above serves the purpose in explaining what I mean. As you've said, when you die you start again from the office but since this Booker does everything the exact same way we see the perfect Booker making it through to the end.I still don't think it's the one Booker going from start to finish. What happens if you die while playing and you get back to that office? don't you just start from that point again as another Booker? We are told in the game that Booker is always stopped by something, more often than not it's songbird but it could be other things too. Playing as multiple Bookers also highlights the whole "Infinite" thing.
Booker at the start of the game is Booker 122 hence the code for the bells to enter Columbia 1-2-2, you drown as the priest baptises you so when you get to the Luteces for the coin flip you are Booker no.123 and your coin flip is the 123rd one.
No one is arguing to say that the new Booker just appears where the old one dies. The game just cuts out the fluff and lets you assume that this new Booker did everything the exact same way you did throughout the game.
No one is arguing to say that the new Booker just appears where the old one dies. The game just cuts out the fluff and lets you assume that this new Booker did everything the exact same way you did throughout the game.