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DICE's Johan Andersson wants Win10+DX12 as minspec for holiday 2016 Frosbite titles
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DarkLordMalik
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What does it even mean?
minspec? minimum requirements, minimum specifications.
well win 10 is free for anyone with win 7 or higher. No excuse not to upgrade really!
It's great news really much better than the 2-3 year lag of devs making use of new DX versions .
You'd need (or at the very least be asked to have) Windows 10, and the accompanying DX12, to play a Frostbite engine game on PC.
Delusibeta
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It basically means that anyone who hasn't got a DirectX 12 card won't be able to play most of EA's 2016 PC games,if this plonker has his way.
halopower67
Member
Fuckin a, I'm on board with him. Obviously as long as they responsibly make use of the new technologies.
The faster we advance, the better.
The faster we advance, the better.
PetriP-TNT
Member
I am okay with this
and what's wrong with that. Nvidia say that all cards from the gtx400 series onwards support DX12 im sorry that your >5 year old graphics card isn't supported :/
It's like complaining you cant get bloodborne on your ps3.
When was rendering tech not working in any DICE title?
windows 10 is free for everyone that has windows 7, windows 8 or windows 8.1. and DX12 is compatible with graphics cards from 2010.
its not a constrained market.
We might underestimate the willingness of some to stay on W7 though, and that's a problem.
justsomeguy
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All DX11 cards will be supported by DX12. It's still not huge market share according to http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey?platform=pc - DX9 still appears to be the majority.
But will that still be the case in 1 1/2 years? I'd be amazed if it is.
you mean like win 8 already does?
justsomeguy
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Win10 is shaping up to be pretty awesome. It won't be a Windows 8 "Where is my start menu?!" style fustercluck IMO.
For the gaming market there should be enough reasons to take advantage of the free upgrade. Some people will of course stay on 7, but why bother? MS is making a huge effort to get W10 widely adopted and at the moment I don't see any reason why that would fail.
I think they are gonna go with Vulkan.
If Vulkan progresses well, that would mean they don't have to worry about uptake of Windows 10, right?
Woo-Fu
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Excuses? Forget about excuses, there are reasons to not upgrade within the first year or two of any Microsoft OS release.
justsomeguy
Member
Awesome. So I wonder why the Steam survey is showing differently?
justsomeguy
Member
Well he's talking about holiday 2016, by which time Windows 10 will have been out for at least a year.
justsomeguy
Member
What graphics card do you have now & what graphics card do you think you'll have in 18 months time?
Steam is merely a part of PC gaming.
All the time. Battlefield 4 loves graphical glitches.
Because Steam takes into account every PC using Steam and not just what silly criteria Nvidia has made up to make the number seem much higher.
Not exactly. If they are gonna require WDDM 2.0 you will still need W10.
But I don't know why they simply don't port their actual non-WDDM 2.0 implementation of Mantle to Vulkan(as he said at GDC they would do) and ship with both WDDM 2.0 and non-WDDM 2.0 support.
Steam is a hell of a lot more of a definitive source on the matter than nvidia.
justsomeguy
Member
Hmm but there's a huge difference between the ~20% on the steam and the 70% NVidia claim. One of life's mysteries ;-)
What graphical glitches?
I'm no fortune teller, but it's less to do with the card and more to do with my hesitance about Windows 10 in its first couple years. I'd rather buy a PS4 than stumble into that, and I'm not going to buy a PS4 for MsE2.
EatChildren
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I haven't been following much of DX12, other than the GTX 970 (my card) apparently supporting it. I wonder what kind of realistic, real world performance increases for, say, Mass Effect 4 one could see between Win 8 + DX11 versus Win 10 + DX12.
PC gamers are ready for a change, most of the gamers are already on 7/8 and it's going to be a free upgrade so there is no reason to stay on the old version.
Hopefully this will bring the changes we hoped for, broken promises and lies are words I would use to describe how MS treats Windows as a gaming platform.
They just recently gave us the middle finger by announcing just ONE (f2p and for me highly uninteresting) game, everything else was a like a big "fuck you" for everyone who thought they would finally bring some of the Xbox games to pc. I would be happy if they would just announce good games like Killer Instinct (and hopefully Scalebound) for pc already...
If they would hold their word they wouldn't fuck around and finally announce Halo Master Chief collection and the Forza games on pc.
I don't think so.
I'll take Nvidia's word.
Besides, in 2012.....
The numbers in the latest survey don't add up... Where's the rest ?
EDIT : Here it is :
http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/videocard/
77.23% DX11 as of March 2015. No idea where you read that bullshit that DX9 GPUs were in the majority, you need to read more carefully.
You would rather buy a PS4 than run Windows 10....... what does that even mean?
AndyMoogle
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Those with a DX9 card really aren't the audience for a DICE game considering Battlefield 3 and 4 aren't compatible with DX9. DX9 has been pretty much dead when it comes to AAA games for quite some time now.
I don't think so.
I'll take Nvidia's word.
Besides, in 2012.....
The numbers in the latest survey don't add up... Where's the rest ?
EDIT : Here it is :
http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/videocard/
77.23% DX11 as of March 2015. No idea where you read that bullshit that DX9 GPUs were in the majority, you need to read more carefully.
That makes more sense.