I don't think it's unreasonable. W10 support should be pretty damn good.
And I see no reason to doubt the hype over DX12, either. Games built for it will open up a new level of possibilities.
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DICE's Johan Andersson wants Win10+DX12 as minspec for holiday 2016 Frosbite titles
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And I see no reason to doubt the hype over DX12, either. Games built for it will open up a new level of possibilities.
Raven77
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Okay can someone PLEASE help me out here. I am desperately wanting to quickly build a new gaming PC for Witcher and GTA. However, I want whatever video card I get to be able to take full advantage of DX 12, for DICE Games, and some current monsters like Witcher coming out.
Are current video cards capable of running DX12? Should I wait for a specific card to come out that might cause some current ones to drop in price? My budget is about 1500 US dollars.
Are current video cards capable of running DX12? Should I wait for a specific card to come out that might cause some current ones to drop in price? My budget is about 1500 US dollars.
Jessie.Bristol
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The GTX 980 supposedly runs The Witcher 3 at 1080p60 on Ultra and the card fully supports DirectX 12_1.
Hawkeye 131
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I think DICE should honestly just double down on their Quality Assurance and Network Management teams plus all their resources and assets before worrying about raising the minimum specs for their PC titles. What does it matter how 'pretty' your game is when it crashes, freezes, suffers from massive netcode and stability issues and is riddled with game breaking bugs? Frostbite is already one of the most powerful and best looking engines out there, DICE need to figure out a new testing strategy to make sure they don't continue to release utterly broken, busted and buggy games to the public.
julesodies
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DX12 min will make gamers go insane. Like 8GB min RAM I think COD Ghosts had.
TheLostBigBoss
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Windows 10 is free for anyone who doesn't have an OS that came out almost a decade ago.
I don't see an issue with this.
I don't see an issue with this.
TC McQueen
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Not when you get a free upgrade to Windows 10 and DX12.
Ghosts asked for 6gb which is perfectly reasonable, let alone actual memory usage was lower.
PC gamers are the undisputed kings of drama queen and overreactions sometimes.
The Xbox One with 8gb of ram is INSANE.
Why are people keep posting completely irrelevant stuff in tech related threads?
Those development branches are not related, so stop posting stuff that does not matter to thread topic, please.
Definitely not unreasonable, but I still believe that W7 at least will have enough of a user base left for EA to not cut their user base unless DX12 enough considerable advantages in areas other than performance (easier development, much better looking graphics, more unified multiplatform support). I'm still hoping for it though, but I don't know, feels a bit of a reach to me.
Nope.
It's very much related. The main benefit of dropping DX11 is making QA easier.
Not really and definitely not in the points the poster was making
Nah, it doesn't really give any extra value to the actual QA team and it's additional debugging tools are sent against more RND and less experience with the API so I would say it's impact on QA is neglicent at least in the short term. The issues with BF4 lies in the Christmas release (which was extremely important to EA in terms of sales) and it just didn't give enough time to the developers and off course some the issues they ran into with the multiplayer side has nothing to do with DirectX.
dragonelite
Member
Im pretty sure folks that want to play those EA games has a gpu capable of dx12.
Your GPU will support DX12.
brain_stew
Member
It's absolutely the right choice. Hope it happens.
Nice news for DE:MD getting DX12. Open world games are usually games that require most draw calls, and natively multi-threaded DX12 will help a lot there.
Congratulations, you have everything for DX12.
Congratulations, you have everything for DX12.
Unknown Soldier
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Win10 is free for all Win7 and 8 owners so it's not an unreasonable demand. Especially if Win10 fixes everything people hated about 8 but includes the very nice under the hood technical improvements over 7.
TharpDaddy
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There's a start menu, I think that was the main complaint people had about 8. There's going to be some stubborn people that refuse to upgrade and sit on Windows 7 for eternity but I think Windows 10 will quickly become the majority in marketshare for Windows.
The main Windows 8 complaint was about the forced use of the Metro user interface. The lack of start menu came second.
protomouse
Member
Yes, please. Windows 10 is a free upgrade, so if it's actually good I can see a massive shift from Win7/Win8 by that time.
This. According to steam stats the DX12 support on hardware side is already over 70% so the only thing this will depend on is people upgrading to windows 10.
That's just great news, although I don't think DE:MD is open world.
The Dutch Slayer
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That seems a little high but I understand that at some point you need to move on.
But that is a hard line to draw.
But that is a hard line to draw.
I dont know, i wouldnt call it high. As a mininum it is basically 2010 GPU and 2009 Windows, the only thing that people have to do is to upgrade OS.
I'm fairly sure that you'll not be saying that at the end of next year. Almost two years is a long time in PC gaming.