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Pokkén Tournament - Weavile and Charizard, Jirachi and Whimsicott assist, July 16th
- Thread starter Boss Doggie
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Not75Drops
Member
The thing with Charizard is that it was never really good in battle until XY. Lots of people thought it was one of the strongest Pokemon because of the anime (something you don't see with Pikachu), and some people got mad at sites like Smogon, where Charizard was placed low on that tier list even though it was based on usage. People like to mention Lucario but that was honestly a "mascot" done right, since it was popular in the movies/anime and good in the game. I really mind Charizard at all but they should honestly give the original starters equal treatment (and use Charizard Y for once). Pikachu makes sense because it's the mascot for the whole series.
Actually Pikachu couldn't be be caught in Black/White, but that was because they were going for the whole "new Pokemon only" until you beat the game, kind of the opposite to Gen II/VI.
Actually Pikachu couldn't be be caught in Black/White, but that was because they were going for the whole "new Pokemon only" until you beat the game, kind of the opposite to Gen II/VI.
Glitchesarecool
Member
I need this game so badly. Still shocked that they worked Gardevoir in, and I'm actually surprised by Weavile.
Nocturnowl
Member
Weavile is kinda cool, this roster ain't doing much for me but that might be my favourite choice so far.
We already know there's a few more third party collaborations for the Wii U. Pokkén being one of them makes sense.
GustyGardner
Member
Wait, people hating on Charizard getting in? I mean, I know there's been a lot of Charizard overexposure recently but I would have been disappointed had it not got in. Anyway, I adore Sneasel so I'm happy that Weavile made it. Next we need more Pokémon that don't fit the built like a fighter already archetype like Suicune. Personlly, I really want a really crazy choice that's really different from the rest of the cast like Aegislash or Gyarados lol.
Exterminieren
Banned
They've got the franchise's three most popular (modern) representatives in the form of Pikachu, Charizard and Lucario, and I don't think anyone should be unduly surprised or annoyed at that. Beyond that, I'm actually pleasantly surprised at the diversity of the roster, if a little baffled at the specific choices. The likes of Suicune or Weavile aren't intuitive choices, but are nice to see all the same.
Well, they would be nice to see if the art style wasn't hideous, but eh.
Well, they would be nice to see if the art style wasn't hideous, but eh.
Blastoise is objectively the best... at getting trounced by the starter it's explicitly designed to counter.
But don't worry. Maybe GameFreak will give Blastoise a good mega someday.
AnkiRendan
Member
I think it's pretty forced to be honest. There was a version mascot popularity poll 5 years ago in Japan and with the way they're pimping Charizard you would think he made top 3 or top 5. He was 7th. Granted this is above his starter peers who ended up being dead last but I can't help but feel TPC was trying to force the popularity of Charizard--and with Mega Charizard X they unfortunately succeeded.
Akibastman
Member
Calling it right now: Pokken will be à NX Launch Title.
MannyToons
Member
I just want Zoroark... 
Back to beating on level 9 Charizard CPUs
Damn 9 year olds have to ruin everything. EEEEVERYTHINGGG
balladofwindfishes
Member
On top of that, this game will probably be on a console by the middle of next year, which would almost certainly be before the NX is out.
WrenchNinja
Member
Well he was number 1 on IGNs user poll of top 100 pokemon years ago during gen 5.
http://ca.ign.com/top/pokemon/1
There's nothing forced about his appearances.
Dude has his own 3DS theme and has brand new one paired with Mega Rayquaza
tim_pkmn89
Member
NX hasn't even been actually announced yet...
Not75Drops
Member
Well Charizard is definitely one of the most popular Pokemon but up until XY, it was barely used in any promotion after Gold/Silver. I'm not surprised it made it in. Lots of people predicted it when Pokken was announced.
At least they've faired better than Zoroark, who was a bad attempt at forcing a mascot. "Hey guys! This thing will be the face of Gen V! Except let's make it so that it hardly appears in the movie it stars in, give it a gimmick ability which doesn't really help it all and make it only available as an event!". Zoroark could be an interesting character though.
ArchedThunder
Banned
I don't get the Charizard hate, I mean he's nowhere near my favorite Pokemon, but you're in denial if you don't think he's one of the most popular and iconic Pokemon. I'm just surprised that it took till Gen VI for them to treat him like a secondary mascot.
I know about the controller but do you have a source regarding the wiiU-based hardware?
That's interesting but not surprising as the old Namco arcade boards (for Tekken etc) were based on Playstation architecture if I remember correctly
Geminosity
Member
To be honest, I was completely oblivious to lizardon's popularity until smash 4. Nobody ever had it in their pokemon teams that I played and nobody I knew who liked pokemon ever mentioned it. That's the problems with only having anecdotal data to work with I guess XD But yeah, Charizard is pretty well liked it seems.
...I'm still holding out hope for Mawile though I know it'll never happen, heck you couldn't even play one in the last mystery dungeon game :/
Smiles and Cries
Member
I found the game slow and kinda boring
GAF was down so no one to hype it up with made reality hit hard Pokken is kinda boring guys
GAF was down so no one to hype it up with made reality hit hard Pokken is kinda boring guys
If it was an official poll, it probably distributed the winning Pokemon which would have influenced who was voted for. I think either Arceus or Mew won an official one a few years back for legendary Pokemon in a transparent attempt by the people voting to make an otherwise nearly impossible to find Pokemon obtainable. You can easily get a Charizard or Venusaur by breeding, while the legendary Pokemon that make up the rest of the box art monsters are more difficult.
Charizard is undoubtedly the second most popular pokemon after Pikachu, I don't think I've seen many viewer polls with him not at the top spot, including this one with more than 2 million votes.
the_don_patch
Banned
Every time I see more gameplay I get more hyped. This fighting system replacing the fighting system in the main pokemon games on a home console would get me to buy whatever system nintendo wants.
Have you played it? I'd love to hear your report.
TriggerShy
Member
Oh I know about Black and White, I just wanted to point out that Pikachu can be obtained in general without trading. Also, I agree about the other starters, I don't care if Charizard is the most popular, but it'd be nice if Blastoise and Venisaur had X and Y forms.
Smiles and Cries
Member
r you serious?
can I say it looks boring?
it really was kinda boring watching the stream, can you hear that?
This game needs Blastoise.
What's this from?
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
The stream had a bunch of random Japanese girls asking what the buttons did. Of course it's gonna be boring.
Pokémon Origins, an animated adaptation of Pokémon Red-Blue/Red-Green/Fire Red-Leaf Green.
Smiles and Cries
Member
I watched 6 Japanese girls play the game ok maybe you are right not a fair way to base an opinion
OmegaSmash
Member
If only Smash Charizard fought even halfway as good as this.
Anyways, any hope for time locked characters?
Anyways, any hope for time locked characters?
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
I'm not saying you can't dislike the battle system or whatever, but we haven't had a decent match of Pokkén ever since the game got announced, and that's because every time they show the game they feel the need to go over how to play at the most basic level. I don't know if that's because they air this during a time when kids are watching or what.
Geminosity
Member
I doubt this is the final starting roster. There'll no doubt be a few more on the actual machine at release that they just haven't unveiled yet :3
Smiles and Cries
Member
It seems the target is the kids who love Pokemon
I'll wait to see how deep it is when played by others
Drilbit777
Member
It's most likely pokken will probably be on both NX and Wii U. I doubt it wouldn't have been made without the Wii U in mind.
Charizard is good in Smash though.
ArchedThunder
Banned
He's pretty bad.
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
There's space for six more characters in the CSS:
And we already know of Blaziken.
lol no
No he's not, I main him I know how good he is. He can hold his own against any character.
LightningXCE
Member
'Pokemon Origins'
Miniseries that basically was what the anime should have been. It follows Red through R/B/G. Seriously, watch it. Japanese version with subs if you can.
Edit: Here ya go
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlDnlhrz6-M
Be prepared for a brutal Charmander scream. ._.
Retromelon
Member
So..charizard again and no blastoise
I should be used to it by now but it will never stop enraging me. The casuals always win
I should be used to it by now but it will never stop enraging me. The casuals always win
Blaziken was confirmed from the first teaser.
Maybe Blastoise will be in. We don't know until all the remaining characters are revealed.
I personally wouldn't mind Feraligatr as a Water starter.