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Oculus Rift Development Kit 2 announced, up for preorder (based on Crystal Cove)
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Sure, but the rest of the post was talking about the 1920x1080 panel, which is apparently also being improved for the consumer release.
By that time potential rolls out retail will be here tho.
I've never played HL2. Bought the rift at 10 am pst this morning. Is it really that good?
Im also wondering on my rig. I7 2600k and Hd 5970
The problem with SLI is that it introduces latency.
Actually, purely in terms of HW, 2-card SLI would be really great for VR. You could independently render the left and right eye views simultaneously on the cards, actually reducing total latency! But that can only happen when VR is popular enough to be added explicitly to graphics APIs.
Thanks for that!
Should I get myself a very early birthday present? I should have sold my DK1 before they announced this 
It's pretty close for Devkit 1. AMOLED having more pixel fill (if I'm using the right term) probably looks a little better than the 1080p tab.
Screendoor won't be gone, but hopefully it would be diminished to the point that it isn't as big of a deal.
It's pretty close for Devkit 1. AMOLED having more pixel fill (if I'm using the right term) probably looks a little better than the 1080p tab.
Screendoor won't be gone, but hopefully it would be diminished to the point that it isn't as big of a deal.
ScepticMatt
Member
Well, refresh rate is pretty definite.
John Carmack said:
Nate said:
Source:Nate said:
http://www.roadtovr.com/gdc-2014-oc...us-rift-hardware-software-live-blog-11am-pst/
Yes, 100% confirmed by the man himself.
"So, DK2 is a huge jump over DK1. It adds all kinds of features that will enable experiences that were just not possible to make with DK1. The comfort is better, the visual quality is much better, the position tracking is going to open up all kinds of new gameplay mechanics, but it is NOT the consumer version.
"Good news is that we know what the consumer product needs to be. We spent the last year kind of R&D'ing around it. We're not creeping anymore, we're not unsure. We know what it needs to be, we know when the parts are coming out, we know how we're going to make it....we just need to make it. And it'll be worth the wait.
"So if you're not a developer, do not buy DK2. It is much better than DK1 but the consumer product is going to have higher resolution, lower latency, higher framerate. Its just better in so many ways that there's very little reason to buy the DK2 unless you do plan on developing content for it."
http://www.engadget.com/2014/03/19/oculus-rift-development-kit-2/
Canis lupus
Member
Finally ordered
IP-0145xxx
Anyone's starting with IP as well?
Will we all who ordered it today be in the first batch? (seems to be around ~20k people?)
IP-0145xxx
Anyone's starting with IP as well?
Will we all who ordered it today be in the first batch? (seems to be around ~20k people?)
GhostTrick
Banned
Maybe I'm going to say something stupid... but what if they used a 21/9 panel ?
Which would be a 2560*1080 screen with would mean 1280*1080 per eyes...
Well... maybe that kind of panel screen isn't widely available... I guess they're limited to what smartphones use, right ?
Which would be a 2560*1080 screen with would mean 1280*1080 per eyes...
Well... maybe that kind of panel screen isn't widely available... I guess they're limited to what smartphones use, right ?
Exploding8
Member
Oh man yes I'm finally getting an Oculus Rift
Can't wait to try this out in July and to explore the SDK
Can't wait to try this out in July and to explore the SDK
Don't spread that trash in here.
SniperHunter
Banned
Competion is good. Monopolies arent.
Should I sell my 670s and buy one 780 ti? Flipping SLI on/off is not ideal
Canis lupus
Member
consolol wars
Wow, I didn't expect a definite confirmation of higher refresh for the consumer version, and what sounds almost definite for higher resolution.
Honestly, a year ago I expected the consumer version to be a 60 Hz 1080p LCD panel, and I'd have been happy with that. Now it looks like it could realistically be a 90 Hz low persistence OLED 1440p display. It's really amazing how far we've come in such a short time.
Honestly, a year ago I expected the consumer version to be a 60 Hz 1080p LCD panel, and I'd have been happy with that. Now it looks like it could realistically be a 90 Hz low persistence OLED 1440p display. It's really amazing how far we've come in such a short time.
If you want to focus on the short term for VR, maybe. I'd wait though and see what happens.
â Narayan
Member
Pre-ordered a DK2 unit earlier. Can't fucking wait to play EVE: Valkyrie.
The other thread is already ruined by it. Please not in here!
Betta Lines
Member
Well I can be pedantic too. It is stereoscopic, because that simply means there are two images taken from two different viewpoints to create a perception of depth. And yes, it has the same number of pixels as standard 1080p, but (as I mentioned in a follow-up post) it is still more demanding than standard 1080p as it is having to deal with two camera angles.
lol there are plenty of other VR headsets competing with Oculus Rift, Sony is late the scene.
Gareth Bale
Member
What's global display?
I didn't really want to get into that discussion, but yeah, it is stereoscopic.
I think it's strange that I've now seen multiple people object to using that term for VR rendering. It's clearly stereoscopic, it doesn't matter what the dimensions of the output viewports in pixels are.
I'm so close to ordering this because the DK1 still makes me insanely motion sick ( I never managed to develop my "vr legs") and I want to develop for it without relying on Gravol. That being said, ordering a second dev kit seems like a bad plan if the consumer model is anywhere close to release.
It's a type of refresh. Most displays illuminate pixels in a rolling fashion from top to bottom. Global display illuminates them all at once. It's better for VR.
See page 26 here:
http://media.steampowered.com/apps/abrashblog/Abrash Dev Days 2014.pdf
ScepticMatt
Member
update all pixel simultaneously instead of scanout (line moving from top to bottom)
it removes latency variation between top and bottom of screen, a known cause of dizziness.
Done via switching off backlight during scanout (LCD, lightboost) or pre-buffering image (valve oled VR).
wanderingprostheyltite
Member
You're converging two images to simulate what our eyes already do, totally makes sense that it's considered stereoscopic. After having used basic antique stereoscopes you understand that's what's happening and this is no different.
E-Cat
Member
But there are some enthusiasts who simple cannot wait.
Already, you can find lots of nifty little experiences for the DK1, and I have no doubt they will continue to materialize as we get closer to the consumer launch date.I wonder if Nvidia or ATI for that matter can get behind this and add drivers for multi-gpu support
Why does Nvidia has to be late for their 800 series, I want a 880 to replace my 570 SLI.. >.<"
Guess I might end up taking a 780 for (a few?) month... ( well I actually already thought about doing so for Star citizen dof fighting module, guess it's just another good reason )
If I were them I would ASAP. Add some driver hackery in conjunction with support in the major middleware to make it work. SLIVR and CrossVR. I can already see it.
The people early adopting VR are the same people who'll spend too much money on your HW
I was really hoping for this year. That price is right tho.
E-Cat
Member
"Unlikely in 2014" makes it sound like it won't be too far into 2015, though...
Azure Dream
Member
Back from errands, watching video about Project Morpheus... oh, it auto-switched to one about Oculus... why are they talking about DK2 as if-
FUCK FUCK FUCK ORDER PAGE WHY WON'T YOU TAKE AMEX TRY PAYPAL WHY IS PAYPAL NOT WORKING AGH ORDER
I'm 8 hours late ordering this thing... that probably translates into months of delay. X_X
FUCK FUCK FUCK ORDER PAGE WHY WON'T YOU TAKE AMEX TRY PAYPAL WHY IS PAYPAL NOT WORKING AGH ORDER
I'm 8 hours late ordering this thing... that probably translates into months of delay. X_X
I really think they'll have better production levels this time around.
May just be wishful thinking because I'm 1.5 hours late myself though
It's the same individual that started it in that thread as well.
Me? I'm just glad people are interested in VR at all. If I had a good enough rig, I'd buy this.
I'm so late that I might as well wait for impressions, or at least until I've actually sold my DK1 to offset the price a bit.
This is probably a mistake, but whatever.
Somewhere around 4k seems to be where this tech really shines and phone manufacturers keep pushing higher resolution panels. Hopefully we'll get there soon enough.
This is probably a mistake, but whatever.
Somewhere around 4k seems to be where this tech really shines and phone manufacturers keep pushing higher resolution panels. Hopefully we'll get there soon enough.
Well it sounds like the consumer version will already be enough to render the DK2 comprehensively outdated. Maybe not a piece of shit, but probably bad enough that you wouldn't want to go back to it if you'd tried the newer hardware.
If you aren't using paypal you only need to put down $50 deposit.
DouglasteR
Member
Now its the long wait till July
I really think they'll have better production levels this time around.
May just be wishful thinking because I'm 1.5 hours late myself though
Do we know when Maxwell is coming out? I really dont want to get say a 770 then a few months later Maxwell come out.
I really think they'll have better production levels this time around.
May just be wishful thinking because I'm 1.5 hours late myself though
I'm worried now, when was it online exactly ? I bought it like.. 5 hours ago. How late am i ?