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Diablo III: Reaper of Souls |OT| Once again! The Sound of HAMMERS is GLORIOUS!

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ZenaxPure

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Obviously War cry does other things :p I think it's disingenuous to say that War Cry generates more resources though, if you're facing only a single mob they're like the same, and against even 4-5 provoke is basically full wrath.

Besides the resource generation the skills are 100% different so who cares.

Well I was typing that under the impression that you'd use the rune that causes war cry to give 50 fury, because well, it's really fucking strong. So not really.

But you are right though, the skills are pretty different which is why I share some of the same concerns as toasty. Basically, fuck cooldowns on abilities. Makes me a bit worried about crusader in some ways, but, obviously I can't know until I am max level and out there killing shit. It's actually kind of bothered me in this thread when people link crusader builds and 4 of the abilities have fairly long cooldowns (like 15+ seconds).
 

Svafnir

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Well I was typing that under the impression that you'd use the rune that causes war cry to give 50 fury, because well, it's really fucking strong. So not really.

But you are right though, the skills are pretty different which is why I share some of the same concerns as toasty. Basically, fuck cooldowns on abilities. Makes me a bit worried about crusader in some ways, but, obviously I can't know until I am max level and out there killing shit. It's actually kind of bothered me in this thread when people link crusader builds and 4 of the abilities have fairly long cooldowns (like 15+ seconds).

Cooldown reduction is a stat. If you hate cool downs, go get 80% reduction. The mystic is your friend, let's you reroll to get any stat you want.
 

Anoregon

The flight plan I just filed with the agency list me, my men, Dr. Pavel here. But only one of you!
I'm pretty bummed to hear the XP nerf is having such a drastic effect on legit leveling of new chars. Barely being 10 on hard by the time you kill skeleton king is just dumb shit that Blizzard should have noticed before pushing out a knee-jerk nerf.
 

GJS

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Cooldown reduction is a stat. If you hate cool downs, go get 80% reduction. The mystic is your friend, let's you reroll to get any stat you want.

I'm cool with cooldowns and everything, but if a skill has a cooldown why does it need a wrath cost as well.

Falling sword has a 30 second cooldown and 25 wrath cost. The wrath cost is almost completely pointless due to the cooldown and I haven't' had to think about it whilst playing.
 

TheYanger

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I'm pretty bummed to hear the XP nerf is having such a drastic effect on legit leveling of new chars. Barely being 10 on hard by the time you kill skeleton king is just dumb shit that Blizzard should have noticed before pushing out a knee-jerk nerf.

Agreed. You used to get that on NORMAL before killing the skeleton king back in the original beta. You can't even get him to drop a legendary unless you acn get to 11. Yeah, I'll play on more than hard on my paragon'd up hellfire ring etc etc main account, but that's pretty brutal for newbies.
 

Svafnir

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I'm pretty bummed to hear the XP nerf is having such a drastic effect on legit leveling of new chars. Barely being 10 on hard by the time you kill skeleton king is just dumb shit that Blizzard should have noticed before pushing out a knee-jerk nerf.

Bounties reward an insane amount of exp for low level chars. That's just another "pre-ros" problem.
 

Kacho

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Does anyone know if Adventure Mode is unlocked for all characters after one finishes Act V or must it be unlocked per-character?

All characters.

Does anyone know if the gear we'll be finding and using at level 70 is going to be item level 71,72,73?
 

Svafnir

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I'm cool with cooldowns and everything, but if they have a cooldown why do they need a wrath cost as well.

Because you can reduce certain skills to a below 1 second cooldown with cooldown reduction stat. Then the skill would just be free. That makes no sense, they need a resource cost.

Also I don't get why people hate cooldowns. It's the normal in almost every game, and it's been fine in Diablo 3. They even made ways to remove cooldowns on skills with RoS, it seems like a none issue...
 

Kyouji

Haman Discharged... she smells nice
Anyone in NA want to do some Uber runs in about an hour? I have 6 machines to burn and I'm looking to finally get a ring.

I'm up for it. Trying to farm some keys right now in-between making food. I'm not in the GAF clan, but I'll be in the community chat as KyouG (or add me at KyouG#1472).
 

fedexpeon

Banned
Anyone has a problem logging into Battle.net?
Kind of suck too since I have the expansion pack sitting here ready to be installed.

This is going to be another nightmare server issue isn't it?
I can't even get to their battle.net support website to reset my password for tonight.
 

Einbroch

Banned
Seriously, just as much as I seem to be making your launch party "shitty", you guys are making mine even worse. The amount of fucking headache this thread's given me is beyond incredible, it's fucking unbelievable how much I want to get the fuck out of here and not return in a long ass time.

In fact, that's exactly what I'll do. The haters won. Peace ya'll, enjoy the game.

Why do you care so much, mang?

I poke fun, but it's just that: fun. I wish I could get hyped about games like you do. Hell, I wish I could get hyped about anything as much as you get hyped about games. Do I think you're a little silly? Sure. But we're all here posting on a videogame forum discussing a game that isn't even out yet talking about how much time we're going to invest (ie waste).

Oh, and PoE > Diablo 3 *Zoidberg whoopwhoopwhoop*
 

Ashodin

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Can the hype intensify? Yes. Yes, it can.

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I'M WAITING.

MEANWHILE IN US GAF

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Why do you care so much, mang?

I poke fun, but it's just that: fun. I wish I could get hyped about games like you do. Hell, I wish I could get hyped about anything as much as you get hyped about games. Do I think you're a little silly? Sure. But we're all here posting on a videogame forum discussing a game that isn't even out yet talking about how much time we're going to invest (ie waste).

Oh, and PoE > Diablo 3 *Zoidberg whoopwhoopwhoop*

You and a bunch of others were talking mad shit about Yoshi for no apparent reason. In this thread we discuss D3 RoS, and ya'll derailed that shit. He got fed up and I don't blame him.

Meanwhile, I'm off work in 30 minutes. Gonna run through normal and get my characters ready to kill Diablo and jump right into Act V.
 

Gandie

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Quick question. Any way to disable chat completely? Don't want all the loot notifications and stuff from the clan chat.
 

Cipherr

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Do you guys plan on doing the new act by yourself or do you plan on co-op'ing? Also what difficulty do you guys plan on going into it?

Co-Op. I always do leveling campaigns co-op. Ill probably run through it on easy Torment 1. Im not terribly interested in making it challenging, I just want to clear Act 5 so I can open up the Adventure mode, THEN ill crank the difficulty. Ill be facerolling T1 though at midnight to unlock it.

Why do you care so much, mang?

I poke fun, but it's just that: fun. I wish I could get hyped about games like you do. Hell, I wish I could get hyped about anything as much as you get hyped about games. Do I think you're a little silly? Sure. But we're all here posting on a videogame forum discussing a game that isn't even out yet talking about how much time we're going to invest (ie waste).

Oh, and PoE > Diablo 3 *Zoidberg whoopwhoopwhoop*

Why don't you just go away dude. Don't come into the thread starting shit for no reason, seriously. Just leave. No reason at all to get personal in a thread like this, cmon.
 

fedexpeon

Banned
So...there is no way to talk to a customer service person huh?
My battle.net account since highschool isn't working any longer, and I can't contact using the online website because my email/mobile don't exist any longer.
Everything is up to date as well since I was playing D3 and WoW last year...
Hurray me?
 

Dahbomb

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All characters.

Does anyone know if the gear we'll be finding and using at level 70 is going to be item level 71,72,73?
I am pretty sure they did away with that system which is why Rares are so lackluster in 2.0 right (most 1H weapons roll ilvl60 stats for example). You will be getting ilvl 70 items at lvl 70.
 

styl3s

Member
Do you guys plan on doing the new act by yourself or do you plan on co-op'ing? Also what difficulty do you guys plan on going into it?
First thing i am doing is rolling a Crusader but when i do get to new act i will solo because i like to take my time and explore on my first play through on everything and everyone i know doesn't give a shit about the diablo story. They just want to burn through, grind to 70 and farm.
 

Einbroch

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Why don't you just go away dude. Don't come into the thread starting shit for no reason, seriously. Just leave. No reason at all to get personal in a thread like this, cmon.

I wish people would actually, you know, read what I write and what I have said in the past before calling into question my intentions. How is supporting him, as I have always done, starting shit?

Whatever, witch hunt if you want.
 

Zerokku

WHAT HAVE YOU DONE?
PSA!!!!

IF YOU JOIN A GAF-ERS ACT V GAME, DO NOT, I REPEAT DO NOT SKIP CUTSCENES OR EVEN DIALOGUE WITHOUT THEIR PERMISSION. ESPECIALLY IF THEY'RE BELOW 70. DON'T FUCK IT UP FOR OTHER PEOPLE!!!!
 

ZenaxPure

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Also I don't get why people hate cooldowns. It's the normal in almost every game, and it's been fine in Diablo 3. They even made ways to remove cooldowns on skills with RoS, it seems like a none issue...

Well I will tell you why, it has nothing to do with the abilities themselves having a cooldown and everything to do with how those abilities are designed. There is a lot of skills in D3 that have cooldowns on them that don't really interact with your other abilities. I just find abilities like that to be very boring to use since it's just another button you are pushing and it takes up a slot another ability could have. Having played a significant amount of time on every class in the game (outside of crusader obviously) I've always found myself bored with abilities like SSS, EQ, and RoV. Seeing cooldowns on so many crusader abilities just makes me worried that they are designed in a similar vein, cause honestly that would make the class pretty boring for me.
 

jersoc

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PSA!!!!

IF YOU JOIN A GAF-ERS ACT V GAME, DO NOT, I REPEAT DO NOT SKIP CUTSCENES OR EVEN DIALOGUE WITHOUT THEIR PERMISSION. ESPECIALLY IF THEY'RE BELOW 70. DON'T FUCK IT UP FOR OTHER PEOPLE!!!!

yeah, im disabling all MP stuff until I finish the story solo. I mean, I don't have high hopes, but still want to enjoy the new stuff at my pace. then rifts for all!
 

Zerokku

WHAT HAVE YOU DONE?
yeah, im disabling all MP stuff until I finish the story solo. I mean, I don't have high hopes, but still want to enjoy the new stuff at my pace. then rifts for all!

Exactly. It's metzen. I expect the plot to be total shit. But I still want to enjoy that shit on my own terms at my own pace.
 

Dahbomb

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Yea I pretty much avoid abilities with CD unless they are super powerful.

Dashing Strike technically has a CD but it will always be on my skill bar. It has too much utility.

Inner Sanctuary is on a CD but it's extremely powerful now and you generally get to have at least one activation per Elite fight which is where you need it the most.

SSS however sucks and I want this skill to be good. Yea it does huge damage and you are invulnerable during it but the CD is too much and it also costs Spirit. IMO the Spirit cost should be removed from this skill as well as all other high CD skills. Many high CD skills do not in fact have a resource cost like Rain of Vengeance.
 

Berksy

Member
I am getting so disconnected that my crusader made it to level 4 before i can complete first quest on normal difficulty.
 

Svafnir

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Well I will tell you why, it has nothing to do with the abilities themselves having a cooldown and everything to do with how those abilities are designed. There is a lot of skills in D3 that have cooldowns on them that don't really interact with your other abilities. I just find abilities like that to be very boring to use since it's just another button you are pushing and it takes up a slot another ability could have. Having played a significant amount of time on every class in the game (outside of crusader obviously) I've always found myself bored with abilities like SSS, EQ, and RoV. Seeing cooldowns on so many crusader abilities just makes me worried that they are designed in a similar vein, cause honestly that would make the class pretty boring for me.

You are missing the point they can be removed.

This Daibo and one piece of gear with reduce cooldown and seven sided strikes is now 10 seconds instead of 30. Want an even lower cooldown? Use mystic and to put it in every piece of your gear.

Stuff like that is awesome in RoS. You can change your play style dramatically, and the ability to have almost no cooldown on your "huge abilities" is an awesome gear choice compared to "I want critical hit chance".

Edit: I missed your point you find seven sided strikes boring. But I just disagree on that, what makes it more boring than bells or a different damaging skill.
 

Sykotik

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SSS is one of my favorite skills in the game. I take the cool-down reduction rune and leave it at that. A 17 second or lower CD for that is not a bad deal, in my opinion. I never had a problem with it, anyway.
 

Dawg

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