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IGN Rumor: Nintendo Revealing New Hardware at E3 [Up: MCV + Videogamer]
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Steve Youngblood
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To be perfectly honest, I love the Gamecube controller as well. Is it my favorite? I don't know if I'd go that far, but I don't find it absurd. But as far the GamePad, I love it's functionality, but I don't think it's the most comfortable controller to use. Obviously, off-TV is great if you want/need that, but if I'm playing on a TV I'll gladly take the Pro controller over the GamePad.
Face it Tiger..
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Please be a 3DSi.
ArchedThunder
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I could have been a dick by saying shit about you that isn't true like you are doing, but I'd rather just post a Reggie gif and be done with it.
Natureboy99
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Who is going to make these Technically Amazing Nintendo games? All Nintendos dev teams have been living in PS2-era tech for the last 10 years. You can't just throw power at a developer and expect then to immediately produce software commensurate with that power. It takes a lot of time. Honestly the current WiiU games seem right on pace with PS3 games from 1 1/2 years in. Nintendo knows gameplay better than anyone, but graphics they have a lot of catching up to do to even catch PS3 era stuff.
Zeyphersan
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There's no way it's a new 3DS, but I'd totally buy that it's a new rebranded Wii U. Different tablet design, maybe smaller console if they want to go the "slim" route.
Hence the reason I'm not buying the Mario Kart 8 bundle until AFTER E3, to see what happens
Hence the reason I'm not buying the Mario Kart 8 bundle until AFTER E3, to see what happens
It's not easy to imagine what direction they'd take a new Wii U model, exactly, because there's so many considerations I'm not particularly knowledgeable about. I can definitely see Nintendo doing major revision, though: something that can be competitively priced, has higher profit margins, or builds on this or that feature. The Wii U will probably never fully enter the recovery stage, but there's still plenty of room for damage mitigation.
LegendofLex
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Third-party developers? For Nintendo hardware?!
Non capacitive touch and low res as well.
Selling my 3ds once I play persona q and not interested in anything else from Nintendo so I'd be interested in something new
digoutyoursoul
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It's only one game but I've been impressed with what I have seen from Mario Kart 8, the lighting especially
Steve Youngblood
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RE: GamePad-less SKU. I've argued quite a bit in the past that I think it's worth a shot. However, if you believe Iwata at the last investor's meeting, his assessment of the Wii U's failings is that they aren't emphasizing the GamePad enough. Based on that, my assumption is that they are probably not going to ditch it. That is unless there's been enough pressure from investors. But it sounded like Iwata felt they needed to double down on the GamePad.
I never said they were. You claimed that people don't make games for supercomputers implying that supercomputers are the only use PowerPC has anymore. I provided you two examples of products using PowerPC processors specifically for gaming that are still being sold today as consumer products. Easier to develop for isn't some blanket statement you can make about all processors. Easier for whom? PC developers? Console exclusive developers like Nintendo are accustomed to developing on PowerPC architecture.
There is a pretty big difference in looking at a screen in your hands (even a 3D one) and experiencing a true virtual environment.
JordanN
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Yeah, that's the funny thing. Nintendo has backed themselves into a corner, no third party developer will follow them again.
So a new console is already left with no support.
ultrazilla
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Most likely a new handheld.
If it is a new home console, I suspect it will be a rebranding and spec upgrade
to the Wii U. What I mean by this is that the operating system will stay the same
but there will be an increase to memory and a vastly upgraded CPU/GPU that
can produce PS4 level visuals. The system will also obviously be totally backwards compatible with Wii U games. Have this new system debut at no more than $350 so
it's still cheaper than a PS4.
Then Nintendo can announce a megaton price drop for the current Wii U down to
$100 to clear the stock.
If it is a new home console, I suspect it will be a rebranding and spec upgrade
to the Wii U. What I mean by this is that the operating system will stay the same
but there will be an increase to memory and a vastly upgraded CPU/GPU that
can produce PS4 level visuals. The system will also obviously be totally backwards compatible with Wii U games. Have this new system debut at no more than $350 so
it's still cheaper than a PS4.
Then Nintendo can announce a megaton price drop for the current Wii U down to
$100 to clear the stock.
Indeed.
I think that if this is related to the Wii U, at most, it'll be an SKU with a smaller GamePad model (smaller screen) which makes it cheaper to produce and thus cheaper to sell.
Mihael Mello Keehl
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I hope not, the dissapointment will be grand but people are already setting themselves up
And WiiU owners don't get any new games coming the next year. But yeah - I would think in the same direction.
mambadragon
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I'm still guessing a gamepad-less Wii U. I think the potential sales benefits (especially since the current sales are so poor) outweigh the market confusion of some games not working.
I dunno, vita tv did fuckall.
I think it depends on how much the gamepad adds to the total cost of the Wii-U. If dropping it means a hundred dollar reduction in the base price, then sure... offer a sku without a gamepad.
Just let consumers know that some games will require it. Wii users were willing to buy a balance board, so convincing them to buy a gamepad at a later date is certainly doable.
Netherscourge
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Wouldn't shock me if this "hardware" was actually a Wii-U accessory device.
I'm not sure "double down on the GamePad" is the best way to word it. They're already investing a lot into it simply by including it in the SKU. I think Iwata's point is more that the GamePad needs to be used more effectively, because as of right now it's not distinguishing the Wii U in any really impactful way.
But yeah, after Iwata's statements, it's difficult to imagine the Wii U being sold without the GamePad. I can imagine the GamePad itself going through some modifications, though.
As long as everyone on NeoGAF take a deep breath, throw the ideas of a new home console out of their minds, and think QoL or a peripheral, all will be well here. Anything more and chaos and bans will ensue.
Either way, new hardware relating to gaming is always interesting to hear about.
You didn't listen to me did you!!!??
Either way, new hardware relating to gaming is always interesting to hear about.
You didn't listen to me did you!!!??
blu
Wants the largest console games publisher to avoid Nintendo's platforms.
Actually I've been curious about your definition of 'home electronics' since the first time you used it. Now I know. Not that I agree with it, but at least now we have some common ground. So a 'modern desktop' / 'modern laptop' is what you've been referring to. Just to make it clear, you're not referring specifically to Windows PCs, are you?
Which begs the question, are game consoles computers? If yes - why (and why the heck a toaster wouldn't be one)? If no - why not.
WordAssassin
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Well not even OR has that down, using a mouse and keyboard is even worse (IMO) than a controller. Controllers can move with you, the mouse and keyboard are stuck in one place and limit your exploration of the virtual environment. I've used OR and I gotta say, nothing to do with the topic at hand, I wasn't that impressed.
I prefer the idea of the main screen being your TV as a point of reference, and then the GamePad acting as a window into the virtual world that's all around you. You're holding the window in your hands and the controller is right there so there isn't the shitty disconnect of trying to move your head and body all over the place while having your hands tied to the keyboard and mouse on your desk.
ArchedThunder
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Really?
You used IBM's supercomputers as proof that it isn't dead, as if its use in such devices is relevant to consumer devices. As for the 360 and PS3 they were released in 05 and 06, and were being designed for a while before that back when PowerPC was still being pushed for personal computers while today it isn't. It isn't like they could have replaced the architecture mid generation, so of course all 360s and PS3s sold to day are PowerPC, but they have been succeeded by machines that are x86 because PowerPC is no longer relevant as far as home devices go.
There is not enough LOLs in the world if Nintendo makes another console after only two years into the Wii Us life. It certainly does not create customer confidence, and I think it would hurt them more than help.
The whole reason why I have not bothered with Nintendo's consoles since the super Nintendo was the complete abandonment of third parties for their platforms.
I owned Nintendo consoles in the past for third party games like Final Fantasy, Contra, Castlevania, so when they moved away from Nintendo platforms I followed (did not help anything that I was a Sega guy).
They need to fix their broken relationship with third parties before bothering with New hardware.
The whole reason why I have not bothered with Nintendo's consoles since the super Nintendo was the complete abandonment of third parties for their platforms.
I owned Nintendo consoles in the past for third party games like Final Fantasy, Contra, Castlevania, so when they moved away from Nintendo platforms I followed (did not help anything that I was a Sega guy).
They need to fix their broken relationship with third parties before bothering with New hardware.
Scooter155
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Something along those lines sounds pretty likely, if there is in fact any new hardware at all.
Wishmaster92
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IT'S COMING.
Hahaha, oh Reggie
Depends on what you mean by revitalize. Nintendo has time (and games) to make the console profitable. Mario Kart will almost certainly increase sales (though I think the bundle is $30 too high).
But it's obvious it will be a distant third to PS4 and Xbox one.
I used IBM's supercomputers to refute your arbitrary claim that the entire architecture is somehow less modern. In order for PowerPC to no longer be relevant in the home console market tell Sony and Microsoft to take the 360 and PS3 off of the market. X86 consoles haven't even been out for a year after decades of manufacturers using PowerPC.
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