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Mario Kart 8 sells (to consumers) ~2 million units in 1 month WW
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Boy Wander
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You did over-egg the whole Vita thing to be fair.
Interceptor
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I would like to see the June npd numbers. Do you have a link for me?
KillerMan91
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Oh yeah that percentage thread. From non existand to little less non existand. So yes I guess that if you just want to say sales increased you are right. Not by any meaningfull amount of units though.
The Horror the horror
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So, this is the last year for Wii U's AAA heavyweights, then, after Smash?
Zelda, Animal Crossing, and 3D Mario were never in the same class - commercially speaking - as MK and SSB world wide. All Nintendo has left at this point are middleweight AA games, which is fine by me.
Zelda, Animal Crossing, and 3D Mario were never in the same class - commercially speaking - as MK and SSB world wide. All Nintendo has left at this point are middleweight AA games, which is fine by me.
KratosEnergyDrink
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You better not have been in that thread about the >6000% uptake for Vita last month...
SSB is not really a heavy hitter, it's like 3D Mario.
Looking at past games, it's not a very mainstream game compared to MK or other Wii_ games (although Nintendo really did their best in fucking up that last product line)
clay_ghost
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The post was in response to how Nintendo actually increase wiiu sales with mk8 while Sony have not manage to do this with Vita (example tearaway killzone etc)
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I forget about bounderlands 2 lol
so Software did help you see
Jaded Alyx
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Smash is not in the same bracket as MK. It's in the same league as 3D Mario.
not to call just you out but can we please stop the Vita talk? it's petty.
From no sale increase to no meaningful one(whatever that means). Final spot for your goalpost or will you keep moving?
Smash is in the Mario Kart league. Don't know where you are getting your infos from.
clay_ghost
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I will say it attracts a bigger audience than 3D Mario but not by a lot. I wonder if amiibo will bring in the skylanders gamers.
I don't like high horses so I'm putting myself on the same level :/.
Jinfash
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Free game promotion was a great infective and the game, while lacking some content, is excellent at its core. I can't think of a more deserving offering/rollout out of Nintendo's first party releases.
Now the only concern remaining is the impact it had on hardware sales and overall baseline. Going by Japan's numbers it was soft, despite the game holding up on charts.
Now the only concern remaining is the impact it had on hardware sales and overall baseline. Going by Japan's numbers it was soft, despite the game holding up on charts.
Interceptor
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KillerMan91
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Well I have may numbers and if I remember right Mario Kart launched in May... If you really have system selling software it causes increase to the sales of the console also during its first month (meaningful units increase, not some percentage increase) but I guess we can rejoice when WiiU crosses 100k units barrier in june (without realizing that it's still well behind what GC did during same June in its lifecycle) and then it will dive back to the abyss in July probably. Then we start to wait for Smash and how it will be huge system seller...
Eh. I would say exactly the same in XBone or PS4 thread if the systems would be in same state as WiiU and people would be rejoicing over some percentage increase and saying how one game is saving the system. I am sales person.
Dont worry, just remember: WiiU is dead in Europe.....unlike Vita which might live a couple of years.
haha. and seriously I'm not just calling you out. once Dave showed his face in here the talk quickly changed to "well our console doesn't suck as much as yours nana nana boo boo!"
I just get annoyed with the "prop under-performing console up with another under-performing console" tactic
no hard feelings or anything
so many points that are unrelated to your original comment
I don't know what to do with myself
Looking at last gen, the month after MKW it was WiiFit....
really good time for them and I guess that's why it kept the already ubber successful Wii to such heights.
Guess it won't happen this time.
Nah that's ok, it's just rather stupid to see posters that are so entrenched in their console wars that they absolutely feel the need to come everywhere proclaim how their choice is better than everyone else's.haha. and seriously I'm not just calling you out. once Dave showed his face in here the talk quickly changed to "well our console doesn't suck as much as yours nana nana boo boo!"
I just get annoyed with the "prop under-performing console up with another under-performing console" tactic
no hard feelings or anything
Seriously it's a WiiU thread you kinda expect WiiU owners to be there at least.
Smokey was really transparent this time though.
Well that's one way to be full of shit though
KillerMan91
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Heh. It's kinda neat that someone is willing to dig up my post history. Haha. Weird feeling.
we've got some burgeoning stand-ups in this thread.
not_so_special
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destiny..cod and bf arent exclusives...Game is selling well but it isn't moving much Wii U hardware.
Too bad it will be outsold by single SKU of Destiny, Cod, AC, Battlefield
I know you were being sarcastic but still
Honestly, I am not sarcastic. From MK8, I really see there are chances that Smash Brother will sell faster than any exclusive of Xbox One and PS4 in this holiday season.
Dare you doubt the integrety of a sales man.
~30% attach rate in a month (regardless of bundle since we are assuming the ~6.5 million Wii U's haven't had too many additions in the past month) is impressive on any hardware.
Also "Love" in the form of 2 million software sales does in fact pay the bills. If it wasn't for that, Wii U could of been another Dreamcast or at best a Vita (I just mean the lack of future software/support, not trying to dig at you)
Anyways, it's pretty amazing how big a change MK8 and E3 has made to the mindshare behind Wii U. It hasn't been this positive since 2010 (before it was announced) I swear it was in negative light since 2011, and to turn that around into positive talk on the internet in less than a month, it's absolutely unexpected.
Aquamarine
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May NPD sales are inconclusive.
While MK8 sold 352K / 377K copies, Wii U only received a minor sales bump from 48K to 61K.
I wouldn't say a 13K sales bump means someone can conclude "Mario Kart 8 is a system seller." It will take another month of data to see any recurring trends from MK8's sales impact.
I think the changes they are making to Zelda U (open world, non-linear dungeons) can take the game into heavyweight territory.
Depends on how much more expensive the amiibo figures will be.
killatopak
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Zelda haven't been heavy hitter since OoT.
Heck that's pretty much why we got TP because WW underwhelmed many, many people (including financial analysts at Nintendo).
Jaded Alyx
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Sales?
No SSB has ever sold crazy numbers like MKDS or MKWii. They've sold much more in line with 3D Mario games.
KillerMan91
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I really don't see connection between those posts? But I guess it's me. Before holidays PSP was actually leading WiiU in Europe last year in yearly sales. This indicates that in some individual countries Vita could have still some years left as Sony has especially strong brand in some European countries (Iberian peninsula for example). This doesn't mean that Vita is success by any measure. It's worldwide flop. Just like WiiU.
Smash only ever did as well as MK when MK was in the dumpster with the GC game.
for every other game MK usually do much better and it really exploded with the DS version.
SSBB is really inline with SMG/SMG2 while NSMBW and MKW really shined to the Wii__ stratosphere.
Wii success didn't mean anything for the WiiU,
heck Vita isn't even fully backward compatible with PSP, anyone buying that physical psp games are left in the cold with vita.
And that is if people buying psp are even buying games.
Interceptor
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I agree, if we see a spike in sales we see it in the first month. Thats why I asked for the numbers of june. You said npd disagrees with increased hardware numbers despite the numbers being not released for another 3 weeks. So why say this then? Are you just making stuff up or do you simply not know what you are talking about?
SmokyDave was Iwata all along.
Well, things change. Look at Skyrim it sold what, 20+ million? Morrowind sold like a fifth or something. The only thing holding Zelda U back in sales, is the Wii U installed base.
KillerMan91
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Well I guess we were talking about different things. I meant actually meaningfull increase in units sales and you guys meant that it just had an increase. I was wrong I admit.
lol We will see in the NPD, but I'm not expecting a huge uptick in sales. That % increase we got a few weeks ago isn't necessarily as comforting to me as it is to some of you, but that's neither here or there.
ES franchise have been on an upward trend unlike Zelda.
Zelda IP now is pretty damaged compared to 2004 for example.
I actually like the games that they've made since OoT but it's quite clear nothing they've done with it is really on the scale of what they should have done to increase its popularity.
Zelda U won't be held back by WiiU that's for sure.
Interceptor
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LegendofLex
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Also the fact that Nintendo seems very reluctant to make a game that meets and exceeds the fans' expectations when it might not satisfy their own creative ambitions.
Is it avatar quote you're looking for?
Well to be fair he may like the game and agree with you.
The Red Wizard
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How did people argue that Nintendo is doomed during the Wii era?
No spin intended. I am merely pointing out that having such a strong exclusive lineup, along with a cheaper price, no online subs and backwards compatibility are factors that weigh in it's favor. That is all I am implying. I am not saying that it is a replacement for the two systems with all of the big third party games. Merely that it is very much worth owning in general based on it's own merits.
You can look up the archives of every gaming site online, I really don't want to check that cesspool ever again.
It ranged from Wiifit destroying gaming to nongames (nongame status being 1Mil in Japan btw) all while Nintendo was having trouble manufacturing enough Wii to meet demand (so like between 2006 to 2008 if not after).
Sorry SmokyDave, I've noticed your posts in the MC threads and you invented the term "champ", and I understand you're just having fun but saying something like this :
Is not really fair is it?
Is not really fair is it?
ab.aeterno
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Sure, but the increase is tracking behind the increase caused by Pikmin 3 -- going by Media Create numbers, specifically. While the game selling 2 million is great, the concern would be that it's selling mostly to it's existing user base when it desperately needs to grow that user base. Nintendo is specifically banking on each tentpole game being a way to make the system take off.
No, Nintendo is doomed everyday
Yup, people want a punching bag and for now that's Nintendo.
yeah Japan certainly is the region to focus on for home console sales, isn't it?
the answer is "no", in case you were wondering