I am a big fan of the game. I am picking up a ps4 when this hits...but honestly the gameplay is nothing special. It is good, but nothing great like the story...maybe that is the issue...a big gap in quality of story quality to gameplay quality? That said it averages out into a pretty sweet overall package.
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The Last of Us Remastered has gone gold!
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I am a big fan of the game. I am picking up a ps4 when this hits...but honestly the gameplay is nothing special. It is good, but nothing great like the story...maybe that is the issue...a big gap in quality of story quality to gameplay quality? That said it averages out into a pretty sweet overall package.
yurinka
Member
From my experience with personal friends, they are just fanboys trolling, they are jealous of these game visuals that don't find in their favorite systems.
Some of them do it in evey single Sony game with great visuals, like Uncharted, TLOU, GoW, Journey or Quantic Dream games. While most of them praise things like Ryse or Miyamoto's E3 robot game prototype. Obviously 100% of the games can be improved and aren't perfect, but to say that "it isn't a game", "it doesn't have any gameplay" or "has mediocre gameplay" is just plain stupid.
Nope, I bet that people trolling TLOU already trolled it before release. And that people who loved it after playing when released still love it.
It certainly feels that way. Like they watched a video online and are just assuming it's Uncharted or something.
Shooting someone in the head in UC is one thing. In TLoU it's something entirely different. There's more weight to it. And there's certainly more brutality.
The game is far from being the holy grail of gaming as many make it out to be in my opinion, but I was entertained by it and thought they did a great job with the story and characters. It wasn't at top of my GOTY2013 list (I think you can read my full opinion in the first OT), but I always felt like this deserved to be on better hardware and hope that others will enjoy it. It certainly is something that everybody should have on their list of games they've played.
I really hope they'll going to release some high-res media of the remastered version.
I really hope they'll going to release some high-res media of the remastered version.
AkelisRain
Member
I have yet to play this game, I watched my younger brother complete this game when he visited for a weekend. Now I am going to play this bad boy on my ps4. I can't wait for it.
originalself
Neo Member
I never played this one. Good time to check it out.
Yeah this is exactly what tends to happen.
Cthulhu_Steev
Member
I agree. Thinking about it, limiting your ammunition in a TPS is something really quite brave, you have to make every shot count, but you also have a lot of ability to improvise with a brick a stick and a bottle when shit goes wrong.
People are getting so hung-up on it being a Sony Cinematic 'Game' that they can't fathom the fact that it does things shooters don't normally do and is all the better for it, and it has a ton of heart behind it all.
I know I really don't have to defend hawk, but I still see people quoting his statement as an attempt at humor, but below are some of hawk's posts in this thread for context.
BiGBoSSMk23
A company being excited for their new game is a huge slap in the face to all the fans that liked their old games.
Gotta chime in here.
How is gameplay even comparable to story? Apples to oranges?
I want people on this camp to give me one game that has an example of superb gameplay, that by comparison makes TLoU seem "mediocre, nothing special, passe...etc."
I can't think of any, because there aren't many games that blend genres and streamlines them so skilfully as TLoU (ND). I remember the scene coming out of
the hotel and giving Ellie the hunting rifle, and then the scene that followed was such a successful, fully interactive plan-and-execute portion of the game, that it felt like Hotline Miami with longer death/respawn times.
Pac-Man
fair enough, i apologize for calling him out. it is tough to tell the trolls apart from people who had genuine issues with the game.
it wasn't you specifically, though I know how people can't really tell these days whether someone's being serious or not, he just appeared on the Neogaf shitposts twitter thing so I had to provide context.
PS you owe me hawk, you were about to get torn a new one once that thing went live lol
Cthulhu_Steev
Member
Yeah, well that game is just Head-on with a stupid pizza monster instead of a car.
i know you weren't, i just wanted to clear the air. the less negativity in these threads, the better.
Bobby_Sullivan
Neo Member
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I only beat this game once but I clearly remember that I spent more time playing a sequence than watching cutscenes. A lot of the narrative development was actually delivered whilst the player had control of Joel.
I digress. In my opinion the gameplay was excellent.
not_so_special
Banned
Well, I'll never attempt sarcasm in this place again, that's for sure!
I just figured having that post sandwiched between two serious ones would make it obvious, but I suppose it didn't
Thank you for the help
Young hawk, if it's not recognized, you just have to own it. It will make you stronger!
Why would you pick it up then if you don't see the reason to? Put that money towards Doctors without Borders or something.
Cthulhu_Steev
Member
Oh no! How does it make you feel knowing your partner is going to marry a videogame disc instead of you?
Playing the intro with the wifey is going to be so good. I'm just going to give her the controller and bring on the feeeeeels.
That's how you know someone just watched the YouTube videos instead of actually playing a game... most of the subtle characterizations are done in-game, not in cutscenes.
That's how you know someone just watched the YouTube videos instead of actually playing a game... most of the subtle characterizations are done in-game, not in cutscenes.
I never fooled myself into thinking I could compete with The Last of Us.
That stunner is a 10!
I'm a 6 on a good day ;(
Cthulhu_Steev
Member
You have a great story though 7/10 (I've only got Polygon's score so far)
JetSetRadio
Banned
I'm one of the lucky guys I guess. Diving in knowing there is a guy and a little girl and zombies. And lots of GOTY awards.
Had a PS3 copy but gave it away after the ps4 version rumors. Never bothered to play it because although I enjoyed Uncharted 1, the sequels seemed rather boring. It's not really my genre.
TLOU apparently is god tier.
Had a PS3 copy but gave it away after the ps4 version rumors. Never bothered to play it because although I enjoyed Uncharted 1, the sequels seemed rather boring. It's not really my genre.
TLOU apparently is god tier.
foxdvd
Member
I would argue half the people bashing the game have never played it, though they will claim they did, and the other half is that group that just loves fighting.
I can sort of see some of the attacks on gameplay compared to story, but the game was not going for gameplay that made you feel like a badass. You can't compare it to Tomb Raider, because that game wanted you to feel in power by the time it was over. Last of Us tried to ground you in a least some sort of realism, while always making you feel one mistake away from death.
I can sort of see some of the attacks on gameplay compared to story, but the game was not going for gameplay that made you feel like a badass. You can't compare it to Tomb Raider, because that game wanted you to feel in power by the time it was over. Last of Us tried to ground you in a least some sort of realism, while always making you feel one mistake away from death.
Cthulhu_Steev
Member
One of those two things is going to surprise you. Possibly both if you think a 14 year old girl is an adult.
MoonsaultSlayer
Member
When I watch something like the new TMNT series and want for a game, I don't hope for a button-mashing, sterile perspective game with no flare. I WANT the cinematic angles, slo-mo sequences and set-piece filled battle arenas.
I feel the same with TLoU. I'll take the story-driven game over some other "innovative" top down shooter that calculated highscores between levels instead of cutscenes.
I feel the same with TLoU. I'll take the story-driven game over some other "innovative" top down shooter that calculated highscores between levels instead of cutscenes.
Cthulhu_Steev
Member
I'll take both, if that's okay.
150% agree
TLOU has good solid shooting and then it also has what i believe to be the best stealth gameplay ever
hardcastlemccormick
Banned
This is the laziest argument I've read in the thread. "I don't understand how people can come to a different conclusion than me so they must not have even ever played the game." Seriously? Like, you seriously can't wrap your heard around it so you have to come up with alternate motives and potential sources of information?
I played The Last of Us and I thought the gameplay was perfunctory, mundane, and purely average in every way. The presentation, sound, and characters were great, but the part that mattered to me? Forgettable.
Accusing people of not playing the game is insulting and idiotic. Debate the opinions, and quit accusing people of ignoring the facts because you can't reconcile other people's opinions with your own.
Another perfect example of why these threads turn into trash. Assign ulterior motives instead of actually accepting differing opinions.
I think where TLOU succeeds is the moment when stealth breaks and you fight only to barely make it.
At least that's how it was for me a lot of the time, the tension after being discovered and having to use my resources to survive.
Good thing I like roleplaying games. I can see someone being super annoyed at all that because of the constant reloading to "perfect" a level.
At least that's how it was for me a lot of the time, the tension after being discovered and having to use my resources to survive.
Good thing I like roleplaying games. I can see someone being super annoyed at all that because of the constant reloading to "perfect" a level.
I want to live in your world where The Last of Us has average gameplay because it at least means that there are quite a lot of games that way way better than it.
But do you like stealth games?
For sure
The thing that makes the stealth fantastic is that if one guy sees you, you are still in stealth unless one of you does something to alert other people
Carnby
Member
So why are you in this thread? Did you come here to tell us we are wrong for liking the game or stupid for getting excited about the remaster?
hardcastlemccormick
Banned
Thankfully I live in the same world as you, I simply perceive it differently.
Yes. Thief 1 and 2 are amazing, Metal Gear Solid 2 and 3 are super fun.
I don't dislike the genre on principle. Hell, The Last of Us' mechanics are perfectly fine and well done. I just didn't think The Last of Us implemented the mechanics of the genre that warranted any merit, either.
I'm in this thread to read about people talk about The Last of Us, from both angles.
But I hate it when people dismiss each other's arguments based on "motives" and "false information," which is why I posted. My expression of TLOU's quality was just a supporting argument, not a troll.
I don't see why you would be thankful for that. In your shoes I would be annoyed, because it's not far-fetched to say that this game is considered by its peers, the critics and the enthusiasts as the best in its genre.
hardcastlemccormick
Banned
Other people's opinions don't annoy me. Why would they?
You'll note that I'm not in this thread to attack or question anyone's perception of The Last of Us - only that certain types of arguments are insulting and ridiculous.
I honestly hope Uncharted 4 makes use of both the shooting and cover aspects of TLoU. Both are vastly superior to anything ND has used in the UC series.
Teletraan1
Banned
Unfortunate the price is so high for a remaster. This would be my first playthrough of the game since I sold my PS3 before this game came out. It should be worth the wait if I am getting 1080p60. I am not the average person so that matters to me.
I think TR did it little better [no need to press crouch button to activate soft-cover mode], but both games have good combat traversal.
I didn't mean to imply that other opinions annoy you.
I'm talking about the trend where games influence other games. Uncharted 2 influenced a lot of games going forward.
Now we're talking about TLOU and if the people making games, the people buying games and the people reviewing games think this is one of the best games made in at least 2013, then it's quite likely to be influential.
foxdvd
Member
Have you even played the game? Let me guess, you played on another profile other than the one you list on neogaf. That would explain why you don't seem to have played the game at all. (oh I see now, you never finished it)
Checking other people's profile is frowned upon.
Cthulhu_Steev
Member
He could've played it at a friend's house. You really are making his point for him by doing this.
Damn it guys, my other post is like... 2 above that one
Just catching up with this thread. Poor shinobi fell for this pretty hard. He even nominated it for neogafshitposts on twitter. Well done!