Whaaaa? Have you actually played the game? And I guarantee you don't want "Realistic AI" in a video game, it would be more frustrating than fun to me. I thought the gameplay was a perfection of third person shooter mechanics. As great as the story was, I really enjoyed the gameplay here.
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The Last of Us Remastered has gone gold!
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Whaaaa? Have you actually played the game? And I guarantee you don't want "Realistic AI" in a video game, it would be more frustrating than fun to me. I thought the gameplay was a perfection of third person shooter mechanics. As great as the story was, I really enjoyed the gameplay here.
milkham
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the only info is from naughty dog themselves
https://twitter.com/cgyrling/status/483897758793732096
but its probably all lies
Spine_Ripper
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You answered your own question. It would get annoying as shit.
shinobi602
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Not sure if this is a serious post or not, but if there isn't a segment of the development community that can successfully integrate the two, then gaming has not properly evolved or moved with the times imo. It does't have to be, nor should it be so black and white. Luckily developers like Naughty Dog are one of the few that have succeeded in such a balance, where so many other developers in the past have tried, but failed.
There is enough diversity in games these days that gamers have opportunities to enjoy a massive breadth of gameplay types and styles, from traditional games, AAA, indies, to open world, linear, cinematic, story centric, narrative devoid, simplistic, complex etc etc. There should be no co-ordinated effort to try and suppress any of the above. That imo would be somewhat narrow minded and selfish. Developers should always be able to make the games they want. The ultimate vote of confidence lies in the number of gamers willing to throw down their money for that developers vision or product.
Lord of Castamere
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Yes but realistically, like an online situation, every enemy would vary in skill and ability. Sneak in, locate the leader, put a bullet in his head, and you might get half of them to break and flee immediately.
Real people don't want to die.
ElRenoRaven
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Well had the game actually gone gold it may not have turned out this way. I blame the OP.
Lord of Castamere
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I think the 10$ cut was the discount, but I'm not sure if anything has been confirmed.
rokkerkory
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This game is weeks away but no shots or gp vids?
Reading this thread makes me feel like I'm one of the few people who likes the gameplay of TLOU more than the story. Which is why I'm so excited about 60fps.
I thought the story was ok at best.
But I consider myself a film buff and a book lover so I'm always highly critical of video game stories.
I thought the story was ok at best.
But I consider myself a film buff and a book lover so I'm always highly critical of video game stories.Pseudo judo
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Agreed. Nearly zero media on this game. It's strange. If Sony has updated this game in a way that gamers s can appreciate then you'd think we'd be seeing more media.
Damn it guys, my other post is like... 2 above that one
Neff
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People were seeing antagonism and elitism where there was none. If the last 15 years of internet has taught me anything, it's that people revel in it, and even innocently, instinctively assume it.
If you want to read my posts as 'backpedaling', then be my guest, but I've only made three statements in this thread- firstly that people frequently point to critical reception as an indicator of TLoU's quality, which in turn is related to my second statement, where I said that almost all of TLoU's praise -from both the press and players- is related to its story (despite a serviceable if unambitious MP). And thirdly, that TLoU has little or nothing to offer those looking for new gameplay challenges and ideas. I stand by all of them.
Gray Matter
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Reading this thread makes me feel like I'm one of the few people who likes the gameplay of TLOU more than the story. Which is why I'm so excited about 60fps.
I thought the story was ok at best.
You're not.
The game JUST went gold. Releasing video early would have been extremely damaging given the ridiculous expectations placed on an up-port like this. Why take time out to record video of an old build, or polish a vertical slice, when they could better spend that time making it the best they can? Now that a remastered version of a one year old game has gone gold we should rightfully expect videos.
It's silly to think they need to show anything a month ahead of time. Is the first week it's out not good enough, especially since there's literally no need to show off how it plays? Does the game only go on sale for a week total and no video means they miss out on a whole slew of folk? Why the hell is there so much demand to see a remaster in action so early?
Nightengale
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The notion that having one aspect means being devoid of the other. or that there's a barrier that divides certain 'call-cards' to games is blatantly false as well.
I'd argue that cinematic experiences are a natural evolution of story-centric games, especially when we look at the JRPG genre. All the plot-points, dialogues, etc, in a world with richer budgets would had been cinematic sequences. I remember FFVII and VIII attempting their own version of in-game set-pieces with the Garden battles and the motorbike mini-game. Though back then, because the ability to integrate in-game set pieces with gameplay was difficult, it was not apparent then, though FFX showed a clear evolution of building in cinematics into the storytelling.
Granted, it's not always the case either, as we have games that focus on storytelling through world-building (Papers Please, etc), but in general, that's one aspect of it, I feel.
And you haven't provided evidence for any of the three, other than vague comments in passing and platitudes.
You don't really stand by them, you whimper in the corner next to the metaphorical house of cards that is your point, that you've completely failed to hold up.
If I'm being blunt, it's because I find your whole approach to this discussion rather absurd.
Could someone please elaborate on what exactly I'm looking at here?
The game is done. ND has created ISO image of the "release candidate" that will [after final Sony Quality Assurance test] be mass-printed on retail BluRays.
Of course their work is not totally done, they will continue working now on day1 patch.
You could have saved us all a lot of time if you had just cut out the prose and went, "I don't think TLOU deserves the praise it gets since the only thing it does right is the story. The gameplay itself is lacking and void of any new gameplay ideas."
Why is it necessary that it do anything new?
TLoU gameplay is super tense and thrilling and the title to beat currently when it comes to the feel of realism. That includes A.I (enemy or companion), animation, scene interaction, character interaction... Everything is realtime and you will have to craft equipement while the world ticks around you. There's really no other game that does any of those single aspects better than TLoU let alone all of them.
Daffy Duck
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Surely no one who has played the game would want that!!
You answered you're own question, man. If the AI partners can be spotted, it would make it extremely annoying for many players that try to go through it stealthily, especially since stealth is very needed in higher difficulties. It would ruin gameplay. Do you realize how difficult it would be to program an AI that is just as good as a human player at avoiding detection? How much resource would that take? Got to have a limit man.
The gameplay of LOU is very well done, I know no one personally that dislike it or finds it repetitive, the story is the icing on the cake for me.
Neff
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I've stated my views, and I'm not going to spend time searching for evidence to bolster observations which are far from obscure. Yep, you've got me with that old chestnut. And judging by your comments in this thread, it doesn't sound like you're very open to being convinced either way.
Try to have a great day.
OMG. Those are review scores of the TLOU Remaster! Google Image search can find images from the future!
ReignofSparrows
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Where is the part where you delineate gamers in such a way as to conform with your view of TLoU?
Unknown One
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I'm sure some do, but throughout my years of gaming (I didn't play ICO), I had very bad experiences with escort missions. I would say it's almost as bad as water levels!
Nightengale
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hmm doesn't say anything about Gold release, just final format QA
Gold release candidate means that the game is done at a functional level, it just needs to pass QA.
Thread name is still wrong. Game will be gold after QA approves the RC code.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Release_candidate#Release_candidate
what if it doesn't pass QA, I thought Gold release means they are already printing
SRTtoZ
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Not just this, but the entire game in general. It was really sad to me, as a PC gamer as well, to see how good looking games on PC started to become and then playing TLOU and really seeing the PS3 struggle. Now in 1080p, remastered at 60fps, this is going to be the way the game was meant to be played.
Nightengale
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Then they fix the part that is broken.
The whole point is that there's no more "last 10% of the game to re-code!" ND has essentially finished rebuilding the entire game for PS4, but they may have missed some part of the lego blocks that may not make the whole thing as good as a retail product needs to be.
Yeah, the thread name is wrong. The game isn't gold yet, but it does mean that the game is feature/asset complete.
Cthulhu_Steev
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You do know that it will still be available to buy after July 29th, don't you? It doesn't disappear after day one, so I'm sure your Concerns for this release will be put to rest or affirmed after that point in millions of places.
lol
You stink, you!
Feature/Asset complete would've been long long ago.
A Gold Master candidate has been submitted and is awaiting approval.
Cthulhu_Steev
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That loading screen effect was used during gameplay for dust and spores.
Code for Horace & The Spiders.
There's Ellie, all grown up and kicking that skinny bloke in the shrivelled tits just to get a go on the swing.
That's probably my favourite part of the game.
Do you know how much realistic games would suck? If Ellie could be spotted the game would have went from a 9/10 to 7/10.
This whole bullying and bashing of Clickers are getting out of control and vile. Two grown up men against one female Clicker. Shame on them.
Shame on you too for glorifying this in JIF form.