The Lamonster
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Okay so Halo 3 was wrong either way lol
These guys are just listing their favorite Halo to play online.
Personally, I've been playing Reach exclusively, because I'll have plenty of time for the others in November
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Halo: Master Chief Collection Master Thread | This is it, baby. Hold me.
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Okay so Halo 3 was wrong either way lol
These guys are just listing their favorite Halo to play online.
Personally, I've been playing Reach exclusively, because I'll have plenty of time for the others in November
Hope frankie can address the state of Halo 2, 3. and 4 in the MCC.
This is something that actually hasn't been answered to my knowledge. And it affects Halo 2, 3, and 4.
Are we getting the games EXACTLY as they shipped? Or are we getting the latest version?
Shipped Halo 2 was a bit of a mess. The BR had a big spread, nades were weak (or too strong I forget).
Shipped Halo 3 has the melee situation, and a couple of hiding spots and such.
Shipped Halo 4 doesn't have the Turbo update! RIP!
This is something that actually hasn't been answered to my knowledge. And it affects Halo 2, 3, and 4.
Are we getting the games EXACTLY as they shipped? Or are we getting the latest version?
Shipped Halo 2 was a bit of a mess. The BR had a big spread, nades were weak (or too strong I forget).
Shipped Halo 3 has the melee situation, and a couple of hiding spots and such.
Shipped Halo 4 doesn't have the Turbo update! RIP!
I'm pretty sure they said in one of the Halo bulletins on Waypoint when they did Q&A it was going to be the most up to date/recent version of all the multi-player suites.
User 73706
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I think they've said that each title has its latest matchmaking incarnation.
I loved it but the dig at Bungie was unecessary. That's the company that made all the stuff he also loved. And it was stated as if it were a fact, rather than his opinion.
Dat internettiquette.
Oh I just invented a word!
Poodlestrike
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BeforeU
Oft hope is born when all is forlorn.
truethat
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Poor Frankie, how bout a gif of halo 3 in glorious 60fps for all of us to make you feel better
The Librarian
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Yeah, I find it kind of funny they had that dig at Bungie then proceed to show a clip from a game they made.
Gabotron ES
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It's really sad H2 will never get a proper dub in here, if this same thing happens with H5... I (and lots of people) will lost their shit.
Frankie words about this issue and H5 gives me some hope this won't happen in the future.
Atleast we are MAYBE getting local subs ... *sigh*
Edit: english will also be better than that shitty neutral dub, seriously... listen to this. When arby says "demon" I always die a little inside.
Halo 4 probably, but if you want to play a good Halo game hop on Halo 3 instead.
or Halo 2 PC
EchoChamber
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Microsoft come the fucking on , you can't do this ,atleast with halo CEA we get Spanish subtitles and now you didn't even bother NOW? only a maybe? a fucking maybe?you can't be that stupid , you are alienating all your spanish speaking fans,are you serious microsoft?.
Computer
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This vid is so good it deserves its own thread. Man I miss the old MLG battles. I looked up to those guys like crazy. Halo had real life gaming icons back then. I played my ass off hoping I could get on their level. We need that back In a big way.
The Lamonster
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is spelled dammit
The Librarian
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Bungie tried some new things with the game, and not a lot of people liked what they tried out. It's not like they set out to make you dislike Halo or anything.
Oh I know, I never said that. But they showed clips of Halo 2 and 3. Reach destroyed the competetive community. I doubt bungie set out to do this, but it happened. I still had fun with the game, especially post update, but I really hated a bunch of its mechanics.
No one ever does, Walker.
That sounds really good to me, actually.
I think everyone respects Bungie for their tremendous work on the franchise, just a fair amount of fans feel slighted with their last game and how they went out with Halo franchise all together. The video is made from competitive guys for all Halo fans, so there is some slight biased on how we feel. The competitive crowd and Bungie just didn't mesh, from them saying our opinions don't matter to mocking members (even if deserved). I'll always love their product but in recent years I can't say I really care about Bungie like I do other studios.
Glad you and the rest of 343i enjoyed the video, Snipetality been making some incredible Halo content in the last year.
get a group of Halo players. You'll rarely get that when you have 8 players and it usually matches 8 with 8 if it can.
I don't understand this either.
The Librarian
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Watching those pro-team finals on Halo's twitch stream.
The games are so good. To my surprise, I also really enjoy Bravo and Goldenboy's commentary, as opposed to just watching the games. They're fun.
The games are so good. To my surprise, I also really enjoy Bravo and Goldenboy's commentary, as opposed to just watching the games. They're fun.
MrGreencastle
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Wait for goldenboy's interview of a tall player on stage. Hilarious. Bravo was born to commentate, dude can pull 5 mins of commentary out of his hat like it's nothing.
WhiteRabbitEXE
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Yeah, I'll just go do that. And every single time I play I'll make sure the other 7 are on.
...ooooor how about no, let me just matchmake without getting fucked over. :3
The combo is really nice. Goldenboy brings the hype while Bravo brings the knowledge.
Honestly, Halo has a history of great commentator pairs. Unfrankable, Gandhi & Maven, Puckett & Gandhi, Bravo & Goldenboy, and any combination of them.
I wish I understood, but I don't know English.
BigTnaples
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Yeah. The Bungie dig really spoils that entire video for me honestly. Was rather good otherwise.
Dqmnit!
Twilight Gap
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wasn't fond of that quote either. not that i disagree, but the video could have done without it.
Gulf between production values and messaging coherency.
SpartanN92
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I can't say that I disagree though...
Bungie made a few drastic changes and then just left. I'm not saying Reach was a bad game (The worst Halo games are still better than 99.9% of other shooters) but it simply wasn't Halo 2/3 quality good. When the bar is set so high so early on thats a really tough thing to compete against.
The rock/paper/scissors/FUCKINGARMORLOCK style gameplay really hurt competition.
Sprint harms map design.
Bloom is bad for fast gunplay.
Once we get away from these things and back to a more pure Halo experience I'm certain we will see a Halo revival.
Bungie made a few drastic changes and then just left. I'm not saying Reach was a bad game (The worst Halo games are still better than 99.9% of other shooters) but it simply wasn't Halo 2/3 quality good. When the bar is set so high so early on thats a really tough thing to compete against.
The rock/paper/scissors/FUCKINGARMORLOCK style gameplay really hurt competition.
Sprint harms map design.
Bloom is bad for fast gunplay.
Once we get away from these things and back to a more pure Halo experience I'm certain we will see a Halo revival.
SpartanN92
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I'm actually not so sure about that...The message is pretty clear to me. Classic style Halo is what we want. Bungie created classic style Halo...and then they changed it.
I'm certain they had the best intentions and hindsight is 20/20 but nobody now can look back at Reach and say the franchise is in better shape now than it was back in 2010.
I have strong faith in 343, they are some of the most awesome, and hard working people I have ever met...They clearly have heard the message... Bring back that original trilogy feel and gameplay and the players will come.
Hopefully MCC really kicks XB1 sales into overdrive.
It basically solely blames a single Bungie game for a very broad problem, and especially without tighter context introduces uncomfortable finger-pointing into a hype video.
It forms a narrative that makes sense, and it's not unreasonable as the "how Halo got here" story, but the way it's focused conflicts with the feel.
Twilight Gap
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Just caught the bulletin. Really digging the focus on eSports. I wish I could have gone to PAX this year to play, but at least it's only 3 months away. Hope Bravo feels better soon too!
And then there was their ALS video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvtA8kQPHLY
GG 343.
And then there was their ALS video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvtA8kQPHLY
GG 343.
fallingdove
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Has there been any video of the game selection screen? I.e choose the halo game you want to play. Halo had always been slick with its interface but I have never seen a good game selection menu with remastered collections (maybe Mario All-Stars?) but wanted to see how they were handling it.
It seems pretty clear that Reach was just a springboard for what Bungie wanted to do in Destiny. I don't think they wanted to make Halo anymore but they had to. So they beta tested their Destiny ideas in a Halo game and then everyone told them they hated it.
That isn't to say Reach is a bad game, I actually think it's a great game. It's just easily the worst Halo IMO.
The Real Napsta
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It was more of a dig at Reach.
From what I understand from separate interviews with Paul Russell, and Marcus Lehto, there were parts of Bungie who didn't even want to make Halo 2 but they had no choice because MS wanted it, and that halo fatigue had started setting in with the dev team as early as halo 3 development.
I'm glad Bungie were able to go off and do their own thing that they actually wanna do... And that we still get halo games too ^_^
Bungie going off to make their own thing seems like the best thing for both themselves and for halo.
lifeexpectancy
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That's possible, although only the people in that inner circle would know for sure. It's true that in and of itself Reach isn't a bad game. If it had released with totally different graphics and a different name, as a new IP, with zero relation to Halo, people probably wouldn't have been so hard on it. The problem was that it was such a departure from what MADE Halo... Halo in the first place. It grew into an extremely competitive arena shooter, and the chaos that ensued with changing that formula too much sparked the Reach bashing.
The fact that Halo 4 followed that trend isn't anyone's fault. It was just the next logical step in the progression. I find that I can have fun in Halo 4 (even in the Infinity Slayer playlist) if I go into with with that mindset, that it's just chaotic fun. But it just doesn't feel like Halo anymore.
Signs point to a return to form with Halo 5. My hopes are high given the fact that 343i are doing a REAL beta test, early enough in development to actually USE what they learn from the beta to affect real change for the better in the final product. Most betas these days are glorified demos...
The Librarian
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I only wish we could see more women at these tournaments.
When you said Str8 Rippin and nostalgia, I thought you were talking about the 2009 team.
Drunken Master
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Didn't know 343i made those from the Evolutions book :O
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